I don't understand where posters can say something to the effect "have said he has NO problems yet he wont play". Seen it twice. This is false. Doctors have said he has a back problem but that they don't see permanent damage.

It's pretty obvious there really is something wrong with Gallo's back (or his head?) and that's unfortunate. I wish it were true that he "has no problems."

[Edited by - basketballjones on 01-07-2009 11:21]

Posted by crzymdups:

Gallinari is not on the active roster right now because he is afraid of the NBA. he's healthy. it's completely mental. that is not the makeup of a star or even a good player. he's a bust.

anyway, this team needed a guard - we needed one at the draft. we had Chandler and DLee and ZBO at the time of the draft, we did not need a forward. we didn't know we were getting Duhon and i think most people assumed Marbury wouldn't play here. we needed a guard. we still need a guard even with Duhon because QRich is bad and Nate is out of control. we have no shooters.

Good post.

Posted by martin:

I don't understand where posters can say something to the effect "have said he has NO problems yet he wont play". Seen it twice. This is false. Doctors have said he has a back problem but that they don't see permanent damage.

Emeka Okafor had a bad back problem in his junior year at Uconn[not being paid and was all set for big pat day] he played one game where he simply could not move--he was literally walking up and down the court. He had a disk problem revealed on MRI[so far I have heard Gallinari had no positive MRI's] from everything that I have read Emeka's injury was more severe and he was able to work through it with some chiropractics visits and a stretching programing. Gallinari's problem started[well we think] in June nearly SEVEN months ago. Either the Knicks or their doctors are flat out lying about the severity of injury or there is some other stuff going on that we are not privvy to. There is something very foul about this. If you have information that he indeed has a problem--please share it with us!

Posted by djsunyc:

maybe they just don't want gallo to play...

Definitely likely... wish they would have surgically corrected the problem if that was the case though

Posted by GallOfFame:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I can fully understand why the Knicks did not take this player. At the time we had Jamal Crawford who commanded nearly 40 minutes a game averaging 20 points we had Nate Robinson Q Richardson Stephon Marbury---I believe the last thing we needed was another player who needed 16-20 shots a night. We had too many of these types of players shoot first and do very little in terms of everything else. That being said--whoever gave the go ahead on Gallinari should be fired. Donnie Walsh said we had to get this pick right. It's Ok to take a player based on potential but if you ADD in the risk of taking a foreign player with potential--as in NOT proven one iota against American athletes in the American style of the game---you triple the risk. The Knicks once again tried to get fancy with their pick and whatever excuse someone wants to make--as far as I know this player should be considered a bust. The doctors have said he has NO problems yet he wont play--there is a problem with that. He may be out of his element. It's not an acceptable excuse IMHO--he simply wont play and he is being paid to do so. The Knicks took a high risk and they are being burned.

I have a problem with our gm knowing all along he wanted to dump our starting 2 guard and supported coach's banning of another guard. Come on a player like Gordon could have been great here. Perfect for the system ran. The kid plays defense. Every since he's started he guards the opposing team best player. When is the last time this franchise had a defensive 2 guard who could score anywhere on the court? Spree? Starks? I think offensively Gordon will be better than both of them. Matter of fact I'd take a prime Starks or Spree all day every day over a prime Hedo or Kucok. We can try minimize all we want but Gallo was picked well in advance because of our coach and his ties with the player.

None of us knew what the Knicks were thinking. But there is a bottom line--he said we could not fail on this pick and IMHO--it looks like an F from here. I don't mind sitting on a player waiting for him to blossom--no problem at all. But there is a serious problem when you go get a guy who has never played American ball at 19 years old and he is refusing or cant play with no specific reason why. Does anyone know of a 19 year old kid out there with a mild injury who cant play? For goodness sakes there are division 3 college football players out there getting paid nothing who play with casts on their arms hands and legs. Take some aspirin and get you arse on the court girly man.

Oh my God Im just thinking if this would ever be tolerated at Uconn. Never ever ever, He would be asked to leave the program. Jerome Dyson is playing with a sprained knee right now. He sprained it pretty good in the Gonzaga game and came back to play with a huge wrap. AJ Price is playing on a surgically repaired knee that hasnt had 8 months to heal. JC had his second bout with cancer and he is always there. The equation is tough love--get out there and play if the doctors cant find anything wrong that honestly prevents you from playing go out and play or go home.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 01-07-2009 1:12 PM]

David Lee could barely walk on his foot two months ago--you could see him laboring--did he stop playing??

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 01-07-2009 1:14 PM]

BRIGGS cut the BS. I'm tired of seeing guys like you and some of the others pretend to know how this kid is feeling. Please, you have no idea the pain he might be going through. Stop judging someone else's pain. And it was reported that he does have somehting wrong with his back but it doesn;t require surgery.

Can't remember the name of the pitcher who was forced to pitch by the manager and later he had a stroke or some type of career threatening injury thereafter.

Don Mattingly and Larry Bird both had disc problems. If you don't treat the problem properly or try to play through it, you risk a more serious condition which might mean an operation. Gallinari has been diagnosed with a bulging disc, but a lot of you guys continue to come up with the conspiracy theories and other foolish ideas about him. Caution is always the smartest thing with a back injury.

If you watch how he played in Italy from the clips available, you would realized that he was always going to the floor in Italy, usually on shots, and you saw that he was willing to take a charge in his summer league game. Why do some of you continue to talk about the guy's heart?

They said that JR. Richard (s?) the pitcher was dogging it because they did not believe his complaints about his arm, and the guy turns out to have a blood clot that almost kills him. A lot of you guys would be (saying) that he is dogging it and that he should play through the pain if you were Houston fans and his problem was going on now.

If Gallinari turns out to have an injury that took place because of the SL game or because of incorrect weight training (my theory), and it keeps him from being the player that many thought he could be, that will be a shame.

If one of you clowns decide to go to Italy to dig up the "truth" about his injury, and discover that he had a pre-existing injury that the Knicks doctors overlooked or ignored, I would be pretty pissed off about them drafting him.

If he becomes completely healthy but turns out to be a terrible player, I will be pissed off about them drafting him, especially because B. Lopez seems to be developing into a fine player.

If he becomes healthy and turns out to be a solid starter who helps the Knicks reach the promised land at some point in the next 5 or so years, I will be very happy and expect to have a lot of you come on to this forum and confess that you did not really know what the hell you were talking about during his rookie year.

Why not let the guy play for a few years and then reach judgement on the Knicks decision to draft him at the 6 slot?

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 01-07-2009 8:40 PM]

and by clowns, palladin is referring to pretty much everyone here but me.

Posted by Uptown:

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by Uptown:

BRIGGS cut the BS. I'm tired of seeing guys like you and some of the others pretend to know how this kid is feeling. Please, you have no idea the pain he might be going through. Stop judging someone else's pain. And it was reported that he does have somehting wrong with his back but it doesn;t require surgery.

Can't remember the name of the pitcher who was forced to pitch by the manager and later he had a stroke or some type of career threatening injury thereafter.

Normally, I would not question any player regarding injury. But this dude has been out for six months based on one hit in his first NBA game. He did not break any bones or tear anything. Sure his back needed rest, but SIX months. I have broken may ankle and went out and played ball in 3 weeks. I have slipped disks and been out for 2 weeks. Hell, I even broke my wrist and was playing again in 4 weeks. This dude is just soft, plain and simple, until he proves otherwise.

First, I dont think this injury occured due to a hit by Traylor. I know there was a report about him missing time in Italy due to a growth spurt and there might have been a preexisting disk injury. Doctors have said as much.

No need to run down the mash-list on your injuries. Everyone is different. Everyone heals at different rates. To call him soft is premature and unfair.

My view is simply my opinion. I certainly am not suggesting that we write the guy off and agree that he should be given a chance to prove himself. IMO, the issue is the guy is soft. Now maybe he comes back in a month and wows us all and proves me wrong. In fact, I hope he does. He certainly showed in his limited action that he has some skills, and I truly hope that the kid is a future allstar in the making. But as of now, either this kid had a preexisting injury, the Knicks are not telling the truth about the injury, or this kid just is soft. We will see.

Posted by Bippity10:

the worst injury in the world is to have a back injury. Why? Because it hurts so much? No because everyone thinks you are lying.

I had a back injury last year. It kept me from shoveling snow all winter. My wife had to do it all winter long. This year I shovel my driveway, my neighbors driveway, the local bowling alley. I shovel people's roofs to prove to them that I was not trying to get out of shoveling last year, that I really had a bad back. Still, no one believes me.

I think you're lying. To prove you're not, you'll have to come down to NYC shovel the sidewalk in front of my building next time it snows.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 01-07-2009 14:55]