Posted by Finestrg:

Yeah that's true, you gotta give to get. You're right. Surprising how few understand that...

Here's another Utah fan's perspective (pappa_goose) on this hypothetical trade from that thread:

"Considering the contracts we have and could have next season you are offering us little to no financial flexibility. The Jazz give up way to much for a guy that would come off the bench here. Now we can keep Koufos who will make significantly less for the next 3 yrs and we could get a draft pick that will replace the one we lose this season and could help us move up in 2010 if needed. If I were the GM I would reject your offer.

To answer your second question I think on potential alone Koufos could be better than Memo. He is starting in the NBA at a younger age and is more athletic and defensive minded than Memo and he has a tremendous work ethic."

Interesting. Even though I think he's off base when it comes to the financial flexibility they'd receive and Lee's value (I think Lee would be a starter on that team, at least until the end of the year - Boozer's out and Lee's better than Millsap) I'd probably feel the same way to be honest. I love young players and draft picks more than anything.

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Interesting take on Koufos from a scout this guy pappa_goose supposedly spoke too recently:

http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=nba&id=uth&tid=4076898&lid=1

I think you left out part of his post. It must go something like this (just has to):


Papa Goose says:

"Considering the contracts we have and could have next season you are offering us little to no financial flexibility. The Jazz give up way to much for a guy that would come off the bench here. Now we can keep Koufos who will make significantly less for the next 3 yrs and we could get a draft pick that will replace the one we lose this season and could help us move up in 2010 if needed. If I were the GM I would reject your offer.

To answer your second question I think on potential alone Koufos could be better than Memo. He is starting in the NBA at a younger age and is more athletic and defensive minded than Memo and he has a tremendous work ethic."

Papa Goose

We if the trade was Lee and JJ2
for
our 2010 pick and Harping

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by Finestrg:

Yeah that's true, you gotta give to get. You're right. Surprising how few understand that...

Here's another Utah fan's perspective (pappa_goose) on this hypothetical trade from that thread:

"Considering the contracts we have and could have next season you are offering us little to no financial flexibility. The Jazz give up way to much for a guy that would come off the bench here. Now we can keep Koufos who will make significantly less for the next 3 yrs and we could get a draft pick that will replace the one we lose this season and could help us move up in 2010 if needed. If I were the GM I would reject your offer.

To answer your second question I think on potential alone Koufos could be better than Memo. He is starting in the NBA at a younger age and is more athletic and defensive minded than Memo and he has a tremendous work ethic."

Interesting. Even though I think he's off base when it comes to the financial flexibility they'd receive and Lee's value (I think Lee would be a starter on that team, at least until the end of the year - Boozer's out and Lee's better than Millsap) I'd probably feel the same way to be honest. I love young players and draft picks more than anything.

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Interesting take on Koufos from a scout this guy pappa_goose supposedly spoke too recently:

http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=nba&id=uth&tid=4076898&lid=1

I think you left out part of his post. It must go something like this (just has to):


Papa Goose says:

"Considering the contracts we have and could have next season you are offering us little to no financial flexibility. The Jazz give up way to much for a guy that would come off the bench here. Now we can keep Koufos who will make significantly less for the next 3 yrs and we could get a draft pick that will replace the one we lose this season and could help us move up in 2010 if needed. If I were the GM I would reject your offer.

To answer your second question I think on potential alone Koufos could be better than Memo. He is starting in the NBA at a younger age and is more athletic and defensive minded than Memo and he has a tremendous work ethic."

Papa Goose

David Lee is very valuable. Either I would take a package that I really want OR I would be willing to negotiate up to a 60mm$ contract extension. Hopefully I could get him for 50 but I don't think so. I cant take less than a VERY good trade--I would be just as willing to pay the man. David Lee is in the top 10 in the entire NBA in several big time stats and 26 years old--to me thats a premium player that you want to keep. And if they believe that he wont be affordable than either they go out and find a very fair trade OR get rid of Curry using the draft pick.

i wonder if Utah values the '10 pick more or Koufos... personally i'd rather have the pick back as a Knicks fan... they can keep their kid if they love him so much... the pick can turn out to be a lottery talent easy... D Lee & Fishlips for Harpring & the '10 pick is a no brainer for me.

Posted by King1:

Remember everyone waqs singing Walsh praises for not offering Lee anything this year. All it did was make Lee a lot more money

do you just make this **** up?

i don't see where anyone's opinions have changed on the matter... most people who agreed with Donnie keeping his options open then still probably think it was the right thing to do now.

Posted by Pharzeone:

I like Lee but his defense is just ass poor. Roy Hilbert look like the next coming of Wes Unseld in the first half. He moved around Lee too easy in the post. Punch the guy in the back if that would help.

David Lee is a darn good player. There are only 3 options with Lee--trade him to stick with Plan A to not sign anyone past 2009 in a deal where we get SIGNIFICANT value back

Plan B Offer him 6 years 54mm and hope he takes it and go up to 60 max if need be with the contract front loaded in just year 1

Plan C close eyes and pray we don't lose this player for nothing. To say he is valuable just for the pick back in 2010--sorry not enough--I want a fair deal that means very good young prospect and pick OR lottery pick in 2009.


It might be best for the Knicks to just sign Lee before other teams get a chance if a VERY fair deal is not out there. This is a darn good player.