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GallOfFame
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12/27/2008  11:41 PM
Posted by King1:
I think Lee defense has got better.

No it hasn't. He's a product of minutes played. I don't think Lee is any different than he was 2yrs ago. Defensively everyone on this team is well below average. Now I will say Lee doesn't deserved to be singled out by coach when defensive assignments are blown because he could pick any player on every play almost. Was it Lee's fault McCants made 7 3's? Was it Lee's fault leaving Carney open every minute he was on the floor? Was it Lee's fault Al Jefferson spun baseline on Tim Thomas almost every time down the floor in the 4rth only to get hacked for And 1's?.
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12/27/2008  11:50 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

Nate is the heart and soul of this team and has been since he's been here.

Try and convince me otherwise.

Lose him and this team is nothing.

No matter who we add to the roster, Nate is and will be extremely valuable.

I honestly don't know if you're being serious or hysterically sarcastic.

This dude has never stopped playing through all the BS years here. We've been 20 games out, 30 points down in games, and he checks into the game, takes a deep breath, sacs up and gives you all he has.

There's not many players I'd rather have on my team than that dude.

He may be a flawed PG, but if/when this team has a more complete roster, he's going to put us over the top in some big games.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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12/28/2008  12:19 AM
Posted by King1:

fit for this offense. I think he is too emotional, takes bad shots, and holds the ball too much. I also think Harrington is a bit overrated and takes horrible shots. I really wish we can get gallinari back and see what he can give us.

The problem with Harrington is that he literally NEVER passes the ball. And I mean EVER.
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12/28/2008  12:25 AM
nay nate is special.

the team has special needs.
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12/28/2008  1:55 AM
Nate's seems like a good kid and a fun guy to be around. He plays with a ton of passion and has great ability despite the height limitations. Can't get all crazy because Telfair scored some points in the 4th quarter - Telfair has ability despite all his problems. Nate's my number one guy to keep right now more than anyone else, even Lee. Nate will be an attraction for free agents to come here and play with. If you don't think guys will be saying to themselves, "oh and I get to play with the little fella" think again. 100% worth keeping and moving forward with.
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12/28/2008  2:29 AM
Nate's the truth
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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12/28/2008  8:31 AM
While shot selection is something that Nate needs to keep in mind, he's done much better this season. He's responded to coaching and learned to be a better player. I hope that stays with this team.
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12/28/2008  5:32 PM
5-17n today and no matter what guard he was against they went crazy. Look how the perimeter dominated ours today
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12/28/2008  5:47 PM
What was Lee guarding on that Nene dunk with a minute to go? You're so incredibly biased.
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12/28/2008  6:48 PM
Come one people...Nate consistently goes so far under screens that any shot is an open one. If you are talking about pressure D, then maybe Nate could handle that. But his emotion and fire is often detrimental to the entire team. Its not just one bad shot or turnovers...its almost like for every good, there is bad x 3. Numerous times during the game as well as many other games, he holds the ball and dribbles and jacks. He cannot set up anyone for plays and he really doesn't create easy shots for other players. I think he is starting to wear on MDA as well with poor play, decision making and turnovers at the end of games. He pretty much said that today. I wonder if he will be in at the end of games anymore. My question is why doesn't Duhon man up and take the ball out of his or Al Harrington's hands in a close game like today. I wonder if this may be the beginning of the end of the Nate-era in Knicksland...I think MDA is gonna put a pretty short leash on him. They should trade him while his value is high because they aint gonna pay him at year's end.

[Edited by - queeniepop on 12-28-2008 6:51 PM]
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12/28/2008  6:52 PM
Another funny thing is that he and Al put up 29 shots off the bench
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12/28/2008  6:55 PM
Posted by Queeniepop:

Another funny thing is that he and Al put up 29 shots off the bench


This offense allows for a lot of shots. Who should be taking them?
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12/28/2008  7:08 PM
After watching today's game I see what it is with Nate.

When Crawful and Zachass were here jacking up shots like morons - Nate looked like a good player who was poised, smart, and team oriented.

Now that those two idiots are gone, Nate sticks out as....the player he probably always was. A selfish chucker who makes terrible decisions with the ball. When the aforementioned were here you did not see it because they were so much worse. Yet, now that the trades were made, Nate really does stick out.

I will give him one benefit of the doubt and that is he's being asked to be something he is not: A backup PG. Nate's a gunner end of story. Maybe if that was his only task it wouldn't look so bad? He has matured a lot and grown a lot as a player and maybe that continues so for now he's not at the top of the "get this clown out of here" list.

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12/28/2008  7:12 PM
nobody's decision making looks good right now because, frankly, nobody knows who to give the ball to.
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12/28/2008  7:46 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

nobody's decision making looks good right now because, frankly, nobody knows who to give the ball to.

When you look around and see Jared Jeffries, Tim Thomas, and David Lee all around the perimeter it's understandable.

Rebuilding sucks, but, this is what it looks like.
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12/28/2008  7:51 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

After watching today's game I see what it is with Nate.

When Crawful and Zachass were here jacking up shots like morons - Nate looked like a good player who was poised, smart, and team oriented.

Now that those two idiots are gone, Nate sticks out as....the player he probably always was. A selfish chucker who makes terrible decisions with the ball. When the aforementioned were here you did not see it because they were so much worse. Yet, now that the trades were made, Nate really does stick out.

I will give him one benefit of the doubt and that is he's being asked to be something he is not: A backup PG. Nate's a gunner end of story. Maybe if that was his only task it wouldn't look so bad? He has matured a lot and grown a lot as a player and maybe that continues so for now he's not at the top of the "get this clown out of here" list.

ANY EXCUSE TO BRING UP THOSE GUYS...nate's been taking bad shots for the past 3 years!
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12/28/2008  8:20 PM
Nate is a horrible team basketball player. He belongs in the And1 league with all his BS individual play. Queenie is absolutely right, trade him now while he still has some trade value. On a bad team he'll look ok on some nights but on a good team where his mistakes and selfish play can't and won't be tolerated, he'll be nothing but a detriment.
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12/28/2008  8:34 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

After watching today's game I see what it is with Nate.

When Crawful and Zachass were here jacking up shots like morons - Nate looked like a good player who was poised, smart, and team oriented.

Now that those two idiots are gone, Nate sticks out as....the player he probably always was. A selfish chucker who makes terrible decisions with the ball. When the aforementioned were here you did not see it because they were so much worse. Yet, now that the trades were made, Nate really does stick out.

I will give him one benefit of the doubt and that is he's being asked to be something he is not: A backup PG. Nate's a gunner end of story. Maybe if that was his only task it wouldn't look so bad? He has matured a lot and grown a lot as a player and maybe that continues so for now he's not at the top of the "get this clown out of here" list.

Dude... have you been watching the games really?

I'll tell you what would happen if Nate passed up shots in this Denver game, the player catching the pass would be too chicken sheet to take a shot so they'd pass it right back to Nate, or they'd turn it over or make some other dumb play.

Nate's playing selfish because the team's been stripped of its two best scorers and the PG stopped running offense for some reason.

What's he supposed to do?

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12/28/2008  8:56 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:
Posted by Cosmic:

After watching today's game I see what it is with Nate.

When Crawful and Zachass were here jacking up shots like morons - Nate looked like a good player who was poised, smart, and team oriented.

Now that those two idiots are gone, Nate sticks out as....the player he probably always was. A selfish chucker who makes terrible decisions with the ball. When the aforementioned were here you did not see it because they were so much worse. Yet, now that the trades were made, Nate really does stick out.

I will give him one benefit of the doubt and that is he's being asked to be something he is not: A backup PG. Nate's a gunner end of story. Maybe if that was his only task it wouldn't look so bad? He has matured a lot and grown a lot as a player and maybe that continues so for now he's not at the top of the "get this clown out of here" list.

Dude... have you been watching the games really?

I'll tell you what would happen if Nate passed up shots in this Denver game, the player catching the pass would be too chicken sheet to take a shot so they'd pass it right back to Nate, or they'd turn it over or make some other dumb play.

Nate's playing selfish because the team's been stripped of its two best scorers and the PG stopped running offense for some reason.

What's he supposed to do?

don't get him started on you know who again JW44.
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12/28/2008  10:32 PM
what is nate robinson's trade value?
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