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Take away Lebron James Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh--what player do you think
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JohnWallace44
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12/27/2008  4:19 PM
I wonder what the value will be in 2010 of taking on a max contract that would expire in 2011.

Lottery pick?

Thoughts?
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12/27/2008  4:32 PM
Yao + Joe JOhnson would be very good
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12/27/2008  4:47 PM
Amare, Joe Johnson, Braandon Roy.
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12/27/2008  5:20 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

the Knicks can acquire that will have serious impact to change course.

We may need to look at Dirk or Tyson Chandler.

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12/27/2008  5:27 PM
As of right now, not 18 months from now since really NO ONE can predict the future, not even bull**** surveys of "league execs":

No one knows what LeBron's thinking. NY is Wade's 3rd option behind Miami and Chicago and Bosh's 1a option next to Dallas.

Of the rest, Redd, Amare, Peja, Nash, Ray Allen (depending on what the C's look like by then) Jefferson, Chandler and McGrady (who likely will be traded before then anyway) are all definite possibilities.

Beyond that, Joe Johnson could potentially come here if he was the second guy but he would never come here to be the #1 option. He doesn't like the media and isn't a fan of big cities. Plus Atlanta suits his personality perfectly. He gets enough attention but it's not life or death with every game. But Atlanta is still Atlanta and opposing teams can always count on them to find a way to screw up.

Dirk wants to stay in Dallas to help lure Bosh who'd love to play for Cuban in his hometown. Yao's a possibility, but you'd need a new coach. I doubt Tim took less money to allow the Spurs to lose free agents like Manu. Pierce is staying in Boston and at worst would go to the west coast after his next deal.

Among the restricted free agents, unless you're making a serious run at Rudy Gay, the best you could do would be Farmar/Foye. Roy's not leaving the northwest unless Portland becomes terrible between now and then. He's from Seattle, loves Portland and is not a big market guy. He's also the clean cut, marketable family man the Jailblazers have been searching for for a decade. If Roy's not going anywhere, neither is Aldridge.
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12/27/2008  5:54 PM
Manu Ginobili & Dirk Nowitzki

Joe Johnson & Amare Stoudamire

[Edited by - TMS on 12-27-2008 2:56 PM]
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12/27/2008  5:59 PM
Posted by TMS:

Manu Ginobili & Dirk Nowitzki

Joe Johnson & Amare Stoudamire

[Edited by - TMS on 12-27-2008 2:56 PM]
but but we could've had Zach and Jamal

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12/27/2008  6:18 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by TMS:

Manu Ginobili & Dirk Nowitzki

Joe Johnson & Amare Stoudamire

[Edited by - TMS on 12-27-2008 2:56 PM]
but but we could've had Zach and Jamal

Well... it'd be funny if we struck out in 2010 and then used our money in 2011 to sigh Jamal and Zach to longterm deals. I think thats the worst case scenario with what Walsh is planning. So what have we lost? Nothing.

[Edited by - kam77 on 12-27-2008 6:18 PM]
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/27/2008  6:26 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by TMS:

Manu Ginobili & Dirk Nowitzki

Joe Johnson & Amare Stoudamire

[Edited by - TMS on 12-27-2008 2:56 PM]
but but we could've had Zach and Jamal

Well... it'd be funny if we struck out in 2010 and then used our money in 2011 to sigh Jamal and Zach to longterm deals. I think thats the worst case scenario with what Walsh is planning. So what have we lost? Nothing.

[Edited by - kam77 on 12-27-2008 6:18 PM]

we'd have lost out on 3 seasons of .500 basketball & crappy draft picks.
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12/28/2008  11:35 AM
This one will happen in 2009, but one to consider would be Ben Gordon. It would make for a very small backcourt and he's not going to be a huge help defensively, but he has one of the best outside shots in the league and he passes pretty well, too.
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12/28/2008  11:56 AM
Posted by nysportsfan11:

As of right now, not 18 months from now since really NO ONE can predict the future, not even bull**** surveys of "league execs":

No one knows what LeBron's thinking. NY is Wade's 3rd option behind Miami and Chicago and Bosh's 1a option next to Dallas.

Of the rest, Redd, Amare, Peja, Nash, Ray Allen (depending on what the C's look like by then) Jefferson, Chandler and McGrady (who likely will be traded before then anyway) are all definite possibilities.

Beyond that, Joe Johnson could potentially come here if he was the second guy but he would never come here to be the #1 option. He doesn't like the media and isn't a fan of big cities. Plus Atlanta suits his personality perfectly. He gets enough attention but it's not life or death with every game. But Atlanta is still Atlanta and opposing teams can always count on them to find a way to screw up.

Dirk wants to stay in Dallas to help lure Bosh who'd love to play for Cuban in his hometown. Yao's a possibility, but you'd need a new coach. I doubt Tim took less money to allow the Spurs to lose free agents like Manu. Pierce is staying in Boston and at worst would go to the west coast after his next deal.

Among the restricted free agents, unless you're making a serious run at Rudy Gay, the best you could do would be Farmar/Foye. Roy's not leaving the northwest unless Portland becomes terrible between now and then. He's from Seattle, loves Portland and is not a big market guy. He's also the clean cut, marketable family man the Jailblazers have been searching for for a decade. If Roy's not going anywhere, neither is Aldridge.

As for Wade - It looks like Chicago will be under the cap come 2010, unless of course, they make some deals between now and then so if anything happens with Miami, I would imagine Chicago is a likely destination. Miami looks like they will be way under the cap as well so I would assume it's pretty possible Wade can recruit someone to come play with him in Miami. Who wouldn't want to play in South Beach?

As for Bosh - Dallas does not appear to be under the cap unless they make a few moves (including declining Howards option for '10-11.) I wonder if Bosh would really want to play in Dallas since Dirk will be 33 at that time and if the team doesn't keep Josh Howard then the cupboard is pretty bare. Of course this could all be pointless since a ton can happen between now and 2010. Good to hear that NY is Bosh's 1A choice.

I think obviously everyone wants LeBron but say the Knicks do lose out on him. I think Bosh is a great compensation prize, but I also realize you can't just bring him in, you HAVE to add another player with him, whether it is through another signing (Joe Johnson would fit nicely) or through a trade.

The people that complain that we are just putting all of our eggs in the LeBron basket are just not thinking straight, sure signing him is the ojective but it's not the only possibility - the Knicks need to be under the cap for flexibility and the ability to have various ways of attaining players. Donnie Walsh knows what he is doing.
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12/28/2008  3:34 PM
seems to me the only people who are saying Knick fans are putting all their eggs into Lebron's basket are the ones who are saying he would never want to come here.
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12/28/2008  4:03 PM
It would be funny to see the knicks with Amare and Joe Johnson in 2010. You would need some talent equal to theirs though at atlease two of the other three spots on the floor. None of that Duhon and Lee stuff IMO. I guess you would have to hope that Danillo is the goods and hope we draft a 1 or a 4 that is pretty good too.


Amare
???/Lee
Danillo/Chandler
Joe/Nate
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Take away Lebron James Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh--what player do you think

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