Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Finestrg:
You know how long they've been waiting to capitalize on that pick? We've been putting it off every year, using the pick while it still had protection. Well you know what - it's not protected next year. We stink this year and as of right now, there's a pretty good chance we'll stink again next year too. That first rounder is an enormous asset for Utah as it would be for any team. NO WAY they include that 1st rounder.. They're not getting a viable player back - Malik's retiring after this year - he can't play anymore. I could possibly see maybe Malik for Harpring and little-used Almond (whose contract they didn't pick up) for the cap flexibility you're talking about but forget the 1st rounder bro - that's too much. Nobody forgos POTENTIAL LOTTERY PICKS for cap flexibility. Teams sell picks for cash all the time but they're usually low 1st/2nd rounders - that 2010 pick we owe them could very well be a lottery selection. Utah couldn't use that? The Jazz aren't the Lakers or the Celtics. Their roster still needs some work like mostly every team out there...
Nobody forgos POTENTIAL LOTTERY PICKS for cap flexibility===umm Boston Pheonix
Boston traded draft assets, yes, among other things but for an ALL-LEAGUE PLAYER in Garnett and an ALL-STAR player in Ray Allen. And it worked - Ainge gambled but wound up winning a title going all in the way he did.. Last year, they used their selection to take JR Giddens at #30, their 2009 first rounder goes to Minnesota in the Garnett deal and as far as I know, they still own their 2010 1st. What pick(s) have they surrendered recently in sheer 'dump expirings and/or draft assets SOLELY for cap flexibility' scenarios like the Malik Rose trade you're suggesting???? Same for Pheonix - I can't think of anything off the top of my head. They made the big move for Shaq but wasn't it for Marion & Marcus Banks? Regardless, they TRADED FOR SHAQ, a player they thought would really help get them over the hump against San Antonio even though he had passed his prime at that point. Since then, Pheonix used their 1st rounder last year and grabbed a center in Robin Lopez at #15 and as far as I know, they still own their 2009 & 2010 first round picks. If memory serves, they may have dealt their 2007 1st to Portland in a minor move, which turned out to be the #24 pick (Rudy Fernandez). But like I said earlier, low 1st rounders and 2nd rounders get dealt for cash all the time. A #24 is not a lottery pick. What you're talking about and what these two teams have done recently is not the same thing.
12/27/2008 5:30 PM