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GallOfFame
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12/22/2008  2:53 PM
He's gotta stop stepping out of bounds, passing up open 3ptrs to step in and take off balanced mid range shots, committing fouls late in games when we're in the penalty and the game is close. Remember the game in Washington, man he was unbearable to watch late in that game. I can tolerate some of the growing pains with him but he has to improve his IQ and court awareness in certain game situations.

[Edited by - GallOfFame on 12-22-2008 3:00 PM]
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12/22/2008  2:56 PM
The kid's hit a wall. He's never played this much before. He'll be fine.
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12/22/2008  2:57 PM
We need the Wilson early in the year going to the hole, offensive boards, jumpers, and pick and rolls. Right now he wants to shoot the corner jumper. I think his has to improve his motor. With the athlete that is he there is no reason why he should have one offensive board in the last five games.
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12/22/2008  3:00 PM
Posted by LBeast:

The kid's hit a wall. He's never played this much before. He'll be fine.

There's a chance that's all it is. Hopefully
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12/22/2008  3:01 PM
Posted by King1:

We need the Wilson early in the year going to the hole, offensive boards, jumpers, and pick and rolls. Right now he wants to shoot the corner jumper. I think his has to improve his motor. With the athlete that is he there is no reason why he should have one offensive board in the last five games.

this is true. I think he may be worried about the guy who he has been guarding and getting back on D. Lots of SGs and SFs.
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12/22/2008  3:24 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by King1:

We need the Wilson early in the year going to the hole, offensive boards, jumpers, and pick and rolls. Right now he wants to shoot the corner jumper. I think his has to improve his motor. With the athlete that is he there is no reason why he should have one offensive board in the last five games.

this is true. I think he may be worried about the guy who he has been guarding and getting back on D. Lots of SGs and SFs.


you could say that his role lately hasn't been to score 10-12 ppg, but to stop guys like Kobe from scoring 50. I can definitely see his energy on defense and looking for defensive rebounds.
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12/22/2008  4:26 PM
Chandler's still only 21. Give him till the end of the season at least before we jump to conclusions.
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12/22/2008  4:33 PM
I dont' think many are jumping ot conclusion on the Chan, chan man. I think we were more thinking out loud.
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12/22/2008  4:37 PM
Chanlder seems to really be better at PF like Marion problem is a chanlder/lee 4/5 is not gunna cut it
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12/22/2008  4:54 PM
I feel like Chandler is sorta playing out of position with the pseudo-2 guard situation.

He's a CLASSIC small forward-- there's just too many other small forwards on this team for him to truly grow into that role.
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12/22/2008  5:09 PM
Say Whut?

GallOfFame - "His IQ is very questionable."

I take serious issue with the arbitrary perception that a 21 year old - virtual rookie, with around 62 TOTAL games under his belt, has a "questionable IQ".

His assist to turnovers (2.1 to 1.9) may be too close for comfort but his across the board production (13.7 and 5.7) is more than decent, despite his recent "slump". Players are not measured by numbers or opinion - they are measured by how passionately they compete.

Chandler, despite his "poor synapses", according to the galling opinion of Galloffame, gave Kobe an excellent effort. The Knicks have desperately missed a fluid player of size who can match up with (and contest the shots of) the skill forwards of the league.

If you watch Chandler in person you might watch his off-the-ball anticipation, his reaction speed and his ability to work within the continuity of a new offensive system which is a work-in-progress. Watch his defensive positioning and watch how he plays rebounding angles... or perhaps study how he learns in practice. Or maybe - just maybe - wait to assess Chandler after he has played more than 82 freakin' games.

Is a 62 game (39 games as a starter) rush to judgement the sign of intelligent basketball analysis?

You do the math





[Edited by - misterearl on 12-22-2008 5:14 PM]
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12/22/2008  5:18 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Say Whut?

GallOfFame - "His IQ is very questionable."

I take serious issue with the arbitrary perception that a 21 year old - virtual rookie, with around 62 TOTAL games under his belt, has a "questionable IQ".

His assist to turnovers (2.1 to 1.9) may be too close for comfort but his across the board production (13.7 and 5.7) is more than decent, despite his recent "slump". Players are not measured by numbers or opinion - they are measured by how passionately they compete.

Chandler, despite his "poor synapses", according to the galling opinion of Galloffame, gave Kobe an excellent effort. The Knicks have desperately missed a fluid player of size who can match up with (and contest the shots of) the skill forwards of the league.

If you watch Chandler in person you might watch his off-the-ball anticipation, his reaction speed and his ability to work within the continuity of a new offensive system which is a work-in-progress. Watch his defensive positioning and watch how he plays rebounding angles... or perhaps study how he learns in practice. Or maybe - just maybe - wait to assess Chandler after he has played more than 82 freakin' games.

Is a 62 game (39 games as a starter) rush to judgement the sign of intelligent basketball analysis?

You do the math





[Edited by - misterearl on 12-22-2008 5:14 PM]


I'm with you, earl.
This is getting scary.
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12/22/2008  5:30 PM
... hey, I jus' calls 'em as I sees 'em

Panos - you think that's scary? Wait until you read where I stand on Gallinari.




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12/22/2008  5:33 PM
It shouldn't take 82 games for a player to figure out that he shouldn't keep stepping out of bounds.

Chandler is flighty and does stuff that makes you scratch your head at times. That's probably not going to change.
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12/22/2008  5:36 PM
Oh boy, Missusearl is getting all bitchy on us again
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12/22/2008  5:41 PM
Rookie - bitchy on "us"?

my comments were directed to the opinion of one poster. But if you want to go there, I'm happy to oblige you.

Missusearl?

you want to talk basketball or resort to personal stuff?

[Edited by - misterearl on 12-22-2008 5:44 PM]
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12/22/2008  5:46 PM
personal stuff! personal stuff!
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/22/2008  5:49 PM
kam77 - yo' momma is so fat...
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12/22/2008  5:49 PM
kam77 - yo' momma is so fat...
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12/22/2008  5:49 PM
Posted by GallOfFame:

He's gotta stop stepping out of bounds, passing up open 3ptrs to step in and take off balanced mid range shots, committing fouls late in games when we're in the penalty and the game is close. Remember the game in Washington, man he was unbearable to watch late in that game. I can tolerate some of the growing pains with him but he has to improve his IQ and court awareness in certain game situations.

[Edited by - GallOfFame on 12-22-2008 3:00 PM]


Nothing wrong with this post Earl. These are critiques that come from watching the games. If you dont want to use the term Basketball IQ, then use the term Rookie-Mistake. Either way, these problems are real.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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