Posted by EWING33BXNY:

Do you think he is noticing how poorly managed the Knicks are so far and is really thinking that the grass is not greener on the other side. Food for thought people!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AraNZ4d6aAl7YvCf2mjB4yE5nYcB?slug=ap-lebronjames-freeagent&prov=ap&type=lgns

Auh, I think the same can be said for Cleveland. I mean they are winning because of Lebron. If he were here, they'd be in the dumps and we'd be winning. And what do you mean poorly managed? We are starless, centerless, injured and on top of all that, we had a few major moves (trades) and so far we are still better than last year. And look who we have been playing lately? Tomorrow bastan most likely will kick us into the next world. We nearly beat L.A. a few days ago.

For what it's worth, I think Donnie and D'Antoni have done a great job, with so little to work with since they both got in town.

I have no more words for Lebron. Jordan, Bryant played with us and now it looks like James is playing with us also. We are only a few games above .500 LIFE TIME! And with all the effort I have put into trying to be positive, I honestly don't see any great future for the Knicks anymore. We really DO' have to win the #1 pick to have a chance and the crop isn't always guaranteed. We don't have a chance in hell. michael jordan, james dolan and isiah thomas put the final stake in our hearts and we are beat'n. No doubt.

Our only chance is that James actually waits until next season to make a decision. By then, we would have revamped a little more of our roster. But I will no longer hold my breath on it. We're ****ed again!

Posted by Knicksfansince94:

I really hope he signs that extension so we can stop worrying about him. We will be better off without having to hear his name for next two years, and we can focus on building a more realistic team without all the dreaming.

My God! And on top of all of that, we got some really stupid fans in NY, I tell ya!

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by EwingsGlass:

Why would he say that he wouldn't consider it? But aside from injury, what benefit is their to him signing an extension now? Even if he decided to stay in Cleveland in 2010, why do it now?

I think "poorly mismanaged" is such a biased opinion. Walsh is turning around an ocean-liner here...it takes time. And, he is making decent decisions. AND MikeD has a rep that players love and want to play in his system.

I tend to agree that Bosh and Joe Johnson isn't a bad alternative. JJ at the 2 is such a size advantage on most nights and his ability to play the one is pretty phenomenal. If you get lucky with the vet's minimum, you could have a championship caliber squad in no time.

Regardless, I think the move for the Knicks is to keep clearing cap space fpr 2010 and focus on players that fit within the system. I also cannot stress the importance of players who get to the ft line often and hit their shots. For a team that is outrunning their opponents, putting the other team into foul trouble is a killer.

Why wouldnt Joe Johnson stay with Atlanta? They can pay him 25% more--that is way too much to leave on the table

If an FA comes to the big apple and plays like a superstar, he'll easily make up that money in endorsements.

Is The NBA a Ponzi Scheme?

$190 M for Mark Teixeira?

By the time 2010 rolls around, the NBA will have been so adversely affected by the chaos created by the economic tailspin, whose pilots include Wall Street bankers, goverment "traffic cops" who look the other way - and drivers like Bernie Madoff - Lebron will be fortunate to have Nike endorse his paycheck. That is, if Nike is still making high-priced athletic footwear.

Better fasten your seatbelts.

Forget Lebron.

[Edited by - misterearl on 12-21-2008 09:57 AM]

Posted by King1:

TMS you think every free agent is going to flock to NYC in 2010 because of the Knicks. I think most of these guys would rather use New York as a bargaining chip then come here. Please tell me the reason they would come to NYC. The reason not to come here.
1. You take a pay cut even though if you win you make it up in endorsements.
2. Knicks havent won anything in 35 years. 13 other franchises have
3. They would have to uproot their family to move to a city not really child friendly.
4. Who would you be playing with
5. Ownership known to make bad decisions
6. Does the Knicks really take care of the greats that played here? Where is Patrick Ewing since he is the only HOF you have had in 30 years?
New York is a great city but dont act like it is the only city to play basketball on earth.

They said the same thing about the Yankees before the Yanks made their run...

True we might be hyping the whole NY thing up, but at the same time, I don't think we should be putting NY down. I think it is about on par with every other city in the NBA. The only thing that matters is the money. If we have the money to throw on free agents, we'll get someone. Maybe not Lebron, but who says that he is the only person that can win us a chip? We'll land someone, just like every other city lands someone if they throw enough money.

The thing about 'bigger market' is overrated, in 2008 every market is a big market. It's whatever, man.

THe most important thing in attracting free agents is that we have a plan, someothing concrete to show, something that looks genuine and well thought out. And that is Donnie and MDA. That is enough to get us someone.

Baseball is the most screwed up sports ever. The yankess win because they spend the most money not because they are the best organization.

True baseball is different, but they said all the things you had in your list about the Yankees...

My point is that winning in NY is like no other place...You think winning a Championship in Cleveland is close to doing it in NY...It's not close...

Posted by King1:

Holfresh I agree the Knicks need to rebuild and if that is the case Walsh has already screwed up by not trading Nate and Lee before the season. Now you have to pay them or let them walk for nothing. Walsh also has to draft better than he did in Indiana.

Would two young good players not be part of a rebuild? I don't understand why you don't consider them pieces you want to make a part of your rebuild and instead want them gone. Then replace them with what? Unproven rookies? More Roberson types?

The tear down has begun with Zach and Crawful being shipped out. Malik, Q, James, Marbury will be off the roster by virtue of time. Jeffries and Curry are the next two that Walsh is looking to get rid of.

Everyone else is young or expires when we need them to. There's no rush here. Maybe we see a trade in the next 8 weeks before the deadline that uses Lee or Nate to get rid of Curry or Jeffries.

Give it time. The rebuild also doesn't officially begin until July 1, 2010. Everything else is a tear down until then.

"Earl, your thinking is flawed reasoning we can make a run with what are accentually bench/role players..."

Say what?

My thinking is flawed reasoning?

holfresh - With all due respect, if you re-read the first post of the "The Walsh Perspective (and A Deliberately Skewed Take On His Decision) On David Lee" thread, you might reconsider. The "accentually" (is that a word?) bench/role players" that you may have confused in my outline of vacancies at the 4 and 5 spots may also require another skim.

I have contended, with some consistency, that in order for the Knicks to contend, three NON-fantasy scenarios might fall in place:

1. Danilo Gallinari can make a significant contribution in two years

2. Walsh must hit on a decent college player (preferably 6'11) in the 2009 draft

3. Walsh, or Assistant GM-in-waiting Allan Houston, must acquire one significant upgrade to the roster in the 2010 free agent wars.

capece?

Posted by misterearl:

"Earl, your thinking is flawed reasoning we can make a run with what are accentually bench/role players..."

Say what?

My thinking is flawed reasoning?

holfresh - With all due respect, if you re-read the first post of the "The Walsh Perspective (and A Deliberately Skewed Take On His Decision) On David Lee" thread, you might reconsider. The "accentually" (is that a word?) bench/role players" that you may have confused in my outline of vacancies at the 4 and 5 spots may also require another skim.

I have contended, with some consistency, that in order for the Knicks to contend, three NON-fantasy scenarios might fall in place:

1. Danilo Gallinari can make a significant contribution in two years

2. Walsh must hit on a decent college player (preferably 6'11) in the 2009 draft

3. Walsh, or Assistant GM-in-waiting Allan Houston, must acquire one significant upgrade to the roster in the 2010 free agent wars.

capece?

The word should be essentially, but you were making a case for Gillinari who hasn't proven he can play on this level yet much less contribute in two years...It's not a lock he can play..

You also like to push Nate and DLee who you have admit in the past are role players on a good team...Resigning these guys means less cap space...

Duhon while playing well is still inconsistent as a player,his big problem in Chicago...You sill push him as being part of the future...

You have too many moving parts and not many sound choices to build the team you envision in a couple of years...