Posted by djsunyc:

30 nba teams
11 black head coaches entering 08/09

4 of them fired within 6 weeks...

remaining black nba head coaches: doc rivers, mike brown, mike woodson, byron scott, nate mcmillan, terry porter

I'm glad you were the one to bring this up and not me. This is straight up disturbing. Combine this with that fiasco in Auburn and I dont know what the hell is going on right now.

Its not that there needs to be a quota, but six black coaches in the NBA???? And I feel a majority of these latest firings, which ended up developing into a bloodletting, were uncalled for.


Edit: Excuse me, seven.

[Edited by - sebstar on 12-15-2008 6:16 PM]

Yeah, this bothers me as well. We should be looking at 23 head coaches, not 7.

Posted by Knicksfansince94:

It doesn't bother me. Why does it matter, anyway? Some years there will be more black coaches, some years there will be less. What's the big deal?

Obviously this isnt an issue for you, so I dont know why you even bothered responding.

And in every sport other than b-ball...there has always been "less" to a laughable degree.

[Edited by - sebstar on 12-16-2008 12:09 PM]

Posted by Knicksfansince94:

What do you mean by laughable? Are you saying there is some conspiracy to keep black coaches out of pro leagues? I highly doubt it, man. It's just the way it is. These numbers will always fluctuate naturally. There's nothing behind it as you seem to imply.

Have you been following college football at all? College b-ball. Peep the latest Auburn situation? NFL?

My god...can people please keep the racial thing out of this?

What gives with that anyway?

I gotta say, personally, if I need 10 people for a job I am going to pick the 10 best people for the job no matter what. If that means it's 10 white people? SO BE IT.

I hate this crap...I hate this perverted "equal opportunity" ****. I hate it and so should you.

Every race, every family, every person - has their shining moments and their moments of darkness. If a particular job lets a certain race shine? So be it.

People need to get over this PC bullcrap. Life is what it is. It's not biased. The best men for the job SHOULD be selected.

And...if you want to play the political game, FINE, but PLAY IT PROPERLY (I hate it, but, it's the truth here). So the America populous makeup is what... 18% Black and 82% everyone else?

OKAY FINE, So you know what? You want to play this equal opportunity game of bull****? SO BE IT I WILL TO BUT I WILL PLAY IT PROPER.

If the American Populus is of 18% black, then every job in the world needs to be 18% black.

Okay, lets use Djs stats?

11 of 30 teams hired black coaches. That is 27.2%. That's way above the 18% of our populous makeup so I got to say now Black People (I hate that term too... don't mix me up with racists please) have made out damn well in this multi-million dollar business!

So, okay, what was it? 4 black guys fired (again, why the hell does it have to be "black guys". why? But, whatever...)

So we're down to 7 Black coaches in a 30 coach league.

OKAY... So now we're down to 23% of the league employs black coaches.

Guess what? That's higher than the politically correct racial makeup of our nation.

Crying.....WHY NOW?


Yeah, Sorry, BEST MAN FOR THE JOB. I don't care what color, what creed, what sexual orientation, the BEST MAN should always get the job. At the lower levels it does not happen because of EQUAL OPPORTUNITY (of which is an oxymoron onto itself given it really means we got to hire 7 whites, 2 blacks, and 1 hispanic! ....and again, I HATE THIS, I HATE THIS SHIT, ITS GARBAGE!).... and at the higher levels? You see it actually WORKING! Because you're talking BIG MONEY and MONEY IS GREEN - not white, brown, or black - its GREEN! So once you reach the higher levels, and, NBA COACHING is a higher level, the BEST MAN is GOING TO GET THE JOB. And if that means 30 white guys, or brown guys, or black guys - get the job? It's because THEY EARNED IT AS THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB.

....and the whole Racist Conspiracy DISAPPEARS - except for - those in distress that want to claim otherwise.

Learn life and live life and you'll live in reality. Drum up this bull**** where you think a 5M dollar a year job was terminated because some guy was BLACK? Then live in your misery forever.........cause you deserved it because of your disallusioned bullcrap attitude.

If this post bans me, I don't care, there is no malice intended. I live in reality, I speak from the heart - a truthful heart - and you gotta deal with it or silence me. The truth won't go away though.........

I think we can discuss the situation like adults without al lthe asteriks and whining. No one is accusing anyone on here of being racist. I'm not even accusing the NBA of being racist. But there is an issue when a league has been mostly black for decades and yet the coaches are mostly white. There really is no explanation for it, and it bothers me. I do beleive that the most qualified coaches are black. But unfortunately most of the interviewers are white. Now as a person who makes good money as an HR consultant I feel pretty comfortable telling you that most employers do not hire who is most qualified. They interview a group of qualified people and then hire the candidate that they are most comfortable with. Not who is most qualified. We all do this. Black and white. The NBA has openly admitted this as an issue and is attempting to change it. No one is screaming racism on this(at least I'm not), just pointing out reality and that it isn't a level playing field even if all involved want it to be.

Even the most progressive, fair minded black people find that frustrating.

The one thing that I don't agree with you on is that most of the qualified coaches are white. I disagree with this 100%.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 16-12-2008 1:25 PM]

[Edited by - bippity10 on 16-12-2008 1:26 PM]

You believe most of the qualified coaches are black?
Yea man, that's not racist at all.

What was, was.

DO we think the best coaches are ex players?

Do we think the best coaches were mediocre players?

Do we think the best coaches were the best players?

Do we think the highest paid superstars make for good coaches?

Does money motivate coaches?

What about half black/white players and coaches?

Coaches are hired to win, and put fans in seats. Theus was a charasmatic TV personality ex-player who had little experience as a head coach.

Maybe his celeberty status got him the gig.

Eddie Jordan paid his dues and had a nice long run. He'll get rehired.

Carlesimo has good credentials but that team is way too young to expect much.

Cheeks was on thin ice last year and they finished strong. He got an extension which is really a nice compiment on the job he did.

Randy Wittman replaced Duane Casey and Duane will get rehired soon enough. Mchale won't stay there for long.

What about baseball managers?

how come no one's talking about qualified Asian coaches? all of you are racist hatters.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by TMS:

how come no one's talking about qualified Asian coaches? all of you are racist hatters.

Yao Ming 2020

that's the kinda progressive thinking that breaks down racial barriers.