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Pharzeone
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12/12/2008  8:47 PM
IMO, you are still in that position because there are quite a few coaches around the league that believe that D'Antoni does not handle himself well on the sidelines. D'Antoni has been known to throw tantrums on the sideline at both officials and opposing players.

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12/12/2008  9:10 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

IMO, you are still in that position because there are quite a few coaches around the league that believe that D'Antoni does not handle himself well on the sidelines. D'Antoni has been known to throw tantrums on the sideline at both officials and opposing players.

Who cares about that, at least Mike D doesn't try to distract an opposing player while shooting the ball, so it's no big deal about Mike throwing tantrums at least we have a Head Coach who has a pulse and gives a damn, since Van Gundy, we've had too many HC's that were like the walking dead, they'd never put up a fight for anything.

[Edited by - Hoopsmeister on 12-12-2008 9:11 PM]
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12/12/2008  9:55 PM
You can't say that the Knicks are still in the same position that they were in when they had Thomas. There is no argument for that.
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12/13/2008  12:26 AM
I think Q would have at least reacted even if to stare in disbelief and try to show him as the Ass.

Its really hard to tell if he was yelling at Q or Hughes. Q is not passive so I think he would have at least made some kind of expression.
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12/13/2008  1:02 AM
How about this, i don't know what exactly happened but the timing was perfect. My best guess, given how noone made a big deal, is because that he did yell something about not fouling. However , given how the timing was just right, it could have served a dual purpose. It's still a distraction, no matter what he yelled. Is there a rule that prevents coaches from doing this type of thing?
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12/13/2008  2:20 AM
Posted by ramtour420:

How about this, i don't know what exactly happened but the timing was perfect. My best guess, given how noone made a big deal, is because that he did yell something about not fouling. However , given how the timing was just right, it could have served a dual purpose. It's still a distraction, no matter what he yelled. Is there a rule that prevents coaches from doing this type of thing?

You have the right to yell at your players, you don't have the right to try to distract opposing players which would be considered bad sportsmanship. That's why it made no sense that two officials would not give him a Technical foul, Q Rich wouldn't react and D'Antoni wouldn't be going nuts. Isiah made remarks to Bowen when he did his dirty footwork on Jamal and Francis and Pop went nuts. That's why I brought up the point about D'Antoni, he has been known to snap at opposing players, walking onto the court during live balls to show his displeasure in officiating (normally during the opposing run) which normally is what earns him his technical fouls. Jerry Sloan also uses these tatics.

NBA Rules 12
Section V--Conduct
a. An official may assess a technical foul, without prior warning, at any time. A technical foul(s) may be assessed to any player on the court or anyone seated on the bench for conduct which, in the opinion of an official, is detrimental to the game. A technical foul cannot be assessed for physical contact when the ball is alive.
EXCEPTION: Fighting fouls and/or taunting with physical contact.
b. A maximum of two technicals for unsportsmanlike acts may be assessed any player, coach or trainer. Any of these offenders may be ejected for committing only one unsportsmanlike act, and they must be ejected for committing two unsports-manlike acts.
c. A technical foul called for (1) delay of game, (2) coaches box violations, (3) defensive 3-seconds, or (4) having a team total of less or more than five players when the ball is alive, or (5) an offensive player hanging on his basket ring or backboard, is not considered an act of unsportsmanlike conduct.
d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as:
(1) Disrespectfully addressing an official
(2) Physically contacting an official
(3) Overt actions indicating resentment to a call
(4) Use of profanity
(5) A coach entering onto the court without permission of an official
(6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no con-tact involved
(7) Taunting
e. Cursing or blaspheming an official shall not be considered the only cause for imposing technical fouls. Running tirades, continuous criticism or griping may be sufficient cause to assess a technical. Excessive misconduct shall result in ejection from the game.
f. Assessment of a technical foul shall be avoided whenever and wherever pos-sible; but, when necessary they are to be assessed without delay or procrastination. Once a player has been ejected or the game is over, technicals cannot be assessed regardless of the provocation. Any additional unsportsmanlike conduct shall be reported by E-mail immediately to the Basketball Operations Department.
g. If a technical foul is assessed to a team following a personal foul on the same team, the free throw attempt for the technical foul shall be administered first.
h. The ball shall be awarded to the team which had possession at the time the technical foul was assessed, whether the free throw attempt is successful or not. Play shall be resumed by a throw-in nearest the spot where play was interrupted.


[Edited by - pharzeone on 12-13-2008 02:21 AM]
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12/13/2008  2:34 AM
Very fine line, seems like a loophole to me. A coach can't bring a foghorn with him and use it every time the other team shoots(taunting?) But if he has a loud recording(or just yell out) whatever, he might be able to do it to give his team instructions while the opposing team shoots?
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12/13/2008  2:49 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by ramtour420:

How about this, i don't know what exactly happened but the timing was perfect. My best guess, given how noone made a big deal, is because that he did yell something about not fouling. However , given how the timing was just right, it could have served a dual purpose. It's still a distraction, no matter what he yelled. Is there a rule that prevents coaches from doing this type of thing?

You have the right to yell at your players, you don't have the right to try to distract opposing players which would be considered bad sportsmanship. That's why it made no sense that two officials would not give him a Technical foul, Q Rich wouldn't react and D'Antoni wouldn't be going nuts. Isiah made remarks to Bowen when he did his dirty footwork on Jamal and Francis and Pop went nuts. That's why I brought up the point about D'Antoni, he has been known to snap at opposing players, walking onto the court during live balls to show his displeasure in officiating (normally during the opposing run) which normally is what earns him his technical fouls. Jerry Sloan also uses these tatics.

NBA Rules 12
Section V--Conduct
a. An official may assess a technical foul, without prior warning, at any time. A technical foul(s) may be assessed to any player on the court or anyone seated on the bench for conduct which, in the opinion of an official, is detrimental to the game. A technical foul cannot be assessed for physical contact when the ball is alive.
EXCEPTION: Fighting fouls and/or taunting with physical contact.
b. A maximum of two technicals for unsportsmanlike acts may be assessed any player, coach or trainer. Any of these offenders may be ejected for committing only one unsportsmanlike act, and they must be ejected for committing two unsports-manlike acts.
c. A technical foul called for (1) delay of game, (2) coaches box violations, (3) defensive 3-seconds, or (4) having a team total of less or more than five players when the ball is alive, or (5) an offensive player hanging on his basket ring or backboard, is not considered an act of unsportsmanlike conduct.
d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as:
(1) Disrespectfully addressing an official
(2) Physically contacting an official
(3) Overt actions indicating resentment to a call
(4) Use of profanity
(5) A coach entering onto the court without permission of an official
(6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no con-tact involved
(7) Taunting
e. Cursing or blaspheming an official shall not be considered the only cause for imposing technical fouls. Running tirades, continuous criticism or griping may be sufficient cause to assess a technical. Excessive misconduct shall result in ejection from the game.
f. Assessment of a technical foul shall be avoided whenever and wherever pos-sible; but, when necessary they are to be assessed without delay or procrastination. Once a player has been ejected or the game is over, technicals cannot be assessed regardless of the provocation. Any additional unsportsmanlike conduct shall be reported by E-mail immediately to the Basketball Operations Department.
g. If a technical foul is assessed to a team following a personal foul on the same team, the free throw attempt for the technical foul shall be administered first.
h. The ball shall be awarded to the team which had possession at the time the technical foul was assessed, whether the free throw attempt is successful or not. Play shall be resumed by a throw-in nearest the spot where play was interrupted.


[Edited by - pharzeone on 12-13-2008 02:21 AM]

i've seen players & coaches pull that stunt on the bench in playoff games & not get T'd up by the refs.
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12/13/2008  8:34 AM
Obvously there was no distraction.

He made the shot.

These guys have fans yelling sitting right on the court all the time.

Q is no angel either. We won, he nailed it, if Del negro did it he is on notice.
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12/13/2008  12:33 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Obvously there was no distraction.

He made the shot.

These guys have fans yelling sitting right on the court all the time.

Q is no angel either. We won, he nailed it, if Del negro did it he is on notice.

Thats like saying" that was not a foul, it obviously didn't hurt and the guy that got fouled still made the shot! so it was not a foul !"
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12/13/2008  6:21 PM
Nalod, not sure what u mean when u say Q's no angel when it comes to this topic... please explain.
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