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Tongiht on ESPN 7PM--Stephen Curry is on if you have not seen him play
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TMS
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12/10/2008  12:02 AM
i don't got any problems w/BRIGGS' posts about prospects, but when u post 10 million different threads about the same prospect it gets to be a little repetitive... anyway i'm in the wrong on this one so i apologize... u were telling peeps the game was on, i get u... my bad.
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12/10/2008  12:08 AM
so, basically, you're saying we need a search engine from martin and andrew?
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12/10/2008  12:09 AM
i really hope curry is a knick this time next year
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12/10/2008  12:09 AM
though, the inherent problem with a search engine for this site is probably something like:

"your search for "2010" returned 2,308 results"

or

"your search for jessica alba returned 8,756 results"

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12/10/2008  12:10 AM
Posted by BigSm00th:

i really hope curry is a knick this time next year

i wouldn't mind it, but in that case we should trade nate at the draft for another first round pick.
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12/10/2008  12:14 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

so, basically, you're saying we need a search engine from martin and andrew?

a search function would be awesome but my guess is it takes a lot to program something like that in... i dunno squat about programming tho, it might be easy for all i know.
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12/10/2008  12:15 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

"your search for jessica alba returned 8,756 results"

i fail to see the downsides to that.
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12/10/2008  12:54 AM
27pt/10ast/4rbs/4st

However, it wasn't his best night. He seemed a little tired, a little slow, and his shot was way off. It could be because Davidson was missing a key defender but it's more likely that Curry was chasing school work all week (academics at Davidson are pretty intense around this time of year and by all accounts Curry takes a full load of serious classes) and then doing media stuff in NY. Dunno why he was off.

WV totally dominated on the boards, 58-32 (29-12 offensive.) Davidson was lucky to win. Curry's shot was off most of the game but he nailed three threes right at the end to win the game (and get the Garden on its feet.) WV is a pretty good team. I suspect they will surprise a few teams this year. They are very well coached, talented, and disciplined, esp. on defense. Ebanks and Butler aren't bad players. Again, I can't see any of the Davidson players, other than Curry, making the WV team as walkons.

I don't have time to flesh this out but, in short, watching the game it occurred to me that Curry has adapted his game more to the team than the team has to Curry, the opposite of the usual relationship between a weak team and a star. Last year, Jason Richards ran the team and they played to Curry's strengths. This year, with Curry running the team, Curry tailors his work to win games. Most, though not all, of his TOs and missed shots in the first half seemed to be result of, say, a pretty good pass that was missed by a teammate or a last second shot he had to take because no one else was open. If anything, I think it's more impressive that he's putting up amazing numbers at Davidson. If he played on, say, an average ACC or Big East team, I think his assist stats might be through the roof. I could see him laying down, oh, 28pt and 15ast at, say, WV or Clemson.

Again, I have no idea how his game will translate to the NBA. Maybe he's a star, maybe he's scrub. However, in just the right situation, I can see Curry as the starting PG on a team that goes deep into the playoffs. He might have to be more selfish to have a chance to flourish in the NBA. He did get pushed around a bit when he was double/triple teamed by larger WV guys. I assume he'll have more time for weights out of school.

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...Davidson should put up a statue for putting them on the map after he leaves...

Yeah, Davidson will, no doubt, put up a golden Curry statue. However, it's worth pointing out that although no significant NBA stars have come out of Davidson, back when Lefty Driesell ('60 to '69) and Terry Holland ('70 to '74) were coaching, Davidson was competitive. For the last 20 years they've been competitive in the Southern Conference with no real pretensions, until recently, to play on a larger stage. They know from basketball at Davidson but they also know they aren't Duke. I suspect they will shuffle along, happy to win most of their Southern conference games and getting their dance card punched every couple years, after Curry leaves.








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12/10/2008  12:56 AM
...we should trade nate at the draft for another first round pick...

I don't think anyone is going to trade a pick that might land Curry for Nate. Nate's great but he's no Curry.
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12/10/2008  7:47 AM
Posted by NumberTwoPencil:

...we should trade nate at the draft for another first round pick...

I don't think anyone is going to trade a pick that might land Curry for Nate. Nate's great but he's no Curry.

Posted by NumberTwoPencil:

...we should trade nate at the draft for another first round pick...

I don't think anyone is going to trade a pick that might land Curry for Nate. Nate's great but he's no Curry.

I think in that scenario, we've already secured the pick to use for Curry- hopefully on our own being top 5 or where we need for Curry- and we are trading Nate for a mid to lower first rounder to another team- given that Nate and Curry would be duplicative of talents/position (i.e., undersized shooting guard).
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12/10/2008  8:12 AM
Curry needs to get a few more inches. He looks like he is still in puberty.

He and Oden are the same age, and Oden looks like his father.

Im sure his Wrist plates will tell if he still has a growth spurt left.

He has the skill set but not the NBA body. He might never fill out enough.

He is not his father, and his dad played an differnt game. Dell was a sniper who came off the bench and got fed the ball with a sick quick release. Dell was H20 with no handle.

Stehpen is a great college player but an NBA work in progress. I realize he puts up points and is passing nice in the lane but you don't get those looks in the NBA. Im not saying he won't, but the physical abiilty to translate that game is his biggest question.

Remember, Walter Berry was the college player of the year but Mark Jax and Mullin had the long NBA career. Curry to me is in a catagory of Bobby Hurley. I think eventually Bobby would have adopted to have a pretty good career but not like he was in college.
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12/10/2008  10:54 AM
Posted by Nalod:

Curry needs to get a few more inches. He looks like he is still in puberty.

He and Oden are the same age, and Oden looks like his father.

Im sure his Wrist plates will tell if he still has a growth spurt left.

He has the skill set but not the NBA body. He might never fill out enough.

He is not his father, and his dad played an differnt game. Dell was a sniper who came off the bench and got fed the ball with a sick quick release. Dell was H20 with no handle.

Stehpen is a great college player but an NBA work in progress. I realize he puts up points and is passing nice in the lane but you don't get those looks in the NBA. Im not saying he won't, but the physical abiilty to translate that game is his biggest question.

Remember, Walter Berry was the college player of the year but Mark Jax and Mullin had the long NBA career. Curry to me is in a catagory of Bobby Hurley. I think eventually Bobby would have adopted to have a pretty good career but not like he was in college.

Yes - with Curry it will all come down to his lack of athleticism and whether or not he's able to overcome that at the point position. He isn't strong and he isn't fast or quick. Right now he gets by on basketball IQ and tremendous skill. NBA history is littered with hundreds of great college players who couldn't handle the physical requirements of the NBA -- I'm not sure if Curry fits that bill. His great shooting ability may allow him to overcome. I don't see him playing the 2 - for me he has to cut it as a point.

The guy I think of when watching Curry is Juan Dixon -- though Juan is a better athlete. I also think of J.J. Redick and how difficult it is for him to get his shot off in the pros.

I love what Curry brings to the table and I thought his dad had the deadliest & quickest long range shot in the game for many years.

In my mind its no guarantee that Curry is a star point waiting to happen. That said he would seem to be a nice fit in Mike Ds system.

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12/10/2008  1:53 PM
Posted by LivingLegend:
Posted by Nalod:

Curry needs to get a few more inches. He looks like he is still in puberty.

He and Oden are the same age, and Oden looks like his father.

Im sure his Wrist plates will tell if he still has a growth spurt left.

He has the skill set but not the NBA body. He might never fill out enough.

He is not his father, and his dad played an differnt game. Dell was a sniper who came off the bench and got fed the ball with a sick quick release. Dell was H20 with no handle.

Stehpen is a great college player but an NBA work in progress. I realize he puts up points and is passing nice in the lane but you don't get those looks in the NBA. Im not saying he won't, but the physical abiilty to translate that game is his biggest question.

Remember, Walter Berry was the college player of the year but Mark Jax and Mullin had the long NBA career. Curry to me is in a catagory of Bobby Hurley. I think eventually Bobby would have adopted to have a pretty good career but not like he was in college.

Yes - with Curry it will all come down to his lack of athleticism and whether or not he's able to overcome that at the point position. He isn't strong and he isn't fast or quick. Right now he gets by on basketball IQ and tremendous skill. NBA history is littered with hundreds of great college players who couldn't handle the physical requirements of the NBA -- I'm not sure if Curry fits that bill. His great shooting ability may allow him to overcome. I don't see him playing the 2 - for me he has to cut it as a point.

The guy I think of when watching Curry is Juan Dixon -- though Juan is a better athlete. I also think of J.J. Redick and how difficult it is for him to get his shot off in the pros.

I love what Curry brings to the table and I thought his dad had the deadliest & quickest long range shot in the game for many years.

In my mind its no guarantee that Curry is a star point waiting to happen. That said he would seem to be a nice fit in Mike Ds system.

Well put. Good assessment. To be fair though, I think he's better than Juan Dixon and Redick because he can bring the ball up and is a capable passer with above average court vision (not the best handle I've ever seen but he usually keeps his dribble and always is looking upcourt/downcourt/cross-court to attempt a good pass) although that element to his game is still under development and needs further refining (tends to get lazy & sloppy with his one-handed cross-court pass attempts at times and that really has nothing to do with the lack of plus talent he's playing with at Davidson). I agree with you - I don't necessarily see a star PG in the making here for exactly the same reasons you've pointed out (lack of height, strength & quickness are all factors as is a lack of a true PG's handle and blow-by speed and although I think he does possess pretty good court vision, passing does seem secondary at times). Great collegiate player that probably has a good future in the NBA (I definitely see him as a rotation combo. guard, either as a starter or off the bench for some team but I definitely think he's good enough to be part of some team's top 8 or 9) but could very well struggle and have some problems at the next level because of his limitations - that wouldn't shock me.

[Edited by - finestrg on 12-10-2008 5:00 PM]
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12/10/2008  2:32 PM
I vision Billups guarding him and that just does not seem fair.
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12/10/2008  6:20 PM
Posted by Nalod:

I vision Billups guarding him and that just does not seem fair.

I can see Curry make a lot of guards shake their heads. He's a top 5 lottery pick imho.
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12/10/2008  6:28 PM
stephen curry's mom is a piece of tail...
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12/10/2008  6:53 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

stephen curry's mom is a piece of tail...

HAHA! I was thinking the same thing last night! See is an attractive lady. And she was really into the game the few times they showed her - nice to see. Dell looked like he was about to fall asleep...

[Edited by - finestrg on 12-10-2008 6:54 PM]
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12/11/2008  3:56 PM
For those who just can't get enough Curry...

There's a very nice profile of Stephen Curry in this week's NY Observer:

...the greatness of Curry is that despite the shooting woes, he didn’t let it take away from other aspects of his game...witness a play at the 12:24 mark: 6-foot-2 guard Darryl Bryant drove to the basket, but Curry managed to reach up at precisely the right moment and force a jump ball. Not only is it a play that taller players routinely mistime and foul, but Curry...simply made the play, and kept his team ahead by three points.

But the most underrated aspect of Curry’s approach is his ability to pass. His court vision allowed him to make crosscourt, backdoor and more conventional connections to teammates that one would expect from a veteran NBA point guard. He had eight assists in the first half alone.

Here’s the thing: Tuesday night was Curry’s eighth game at the position. He was a shooting guard for his freshman and sophomore years, and switched because Davidson needed a point guard. Already, he’s put up three double-digit assist games, with an assist-to-turnover ratio of 55-to-27—better than 2-to-1...

http://www.observer.com/2008/o2/sports/stephen-curry-show


Also, here are the last five minutes of the WV games, minus timeouts, etc.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHmA5TIZUIM
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12/11/2008  4:53 PM


You know what was great about those last 5 minutes--he made as many big time defensive plays as offensive

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12/14/2008  6:24 PM
Curry update:

41pt and 6 ast against UT-C, a weak SoCo team. (UT-C was supposed to be okay this year and their RPI was, roughly, the same as Davidson's but they are, oh, 1-6 or something like that.) Anyway, Curry was 12/21 overall, 8/14 3pt, and 5/5 ft. I think he had about 30 in the second half. Apparently, it was another ugly, close, foul-ridden game, even if the score was unusually high for a SoCo match.

...big time defensive plays...

Yup, it's mostly his anticipation and positioning, not his speed or size, that makes his D so strong. I'd love to see him play against someone with similar skills.

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