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12/3/2008  4:23 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by nysportsfan11:
Posted by Allanfan20:

NYsportsfan, Q always seemed like one of the more likeable guys amongst the Knicks players. What is the dislike for him for, across the league? Not that it matters.

Q's got friends around the L, don't get me wrong but he is polarizing. 99% of the Chicago cats in the L stick together (just like the west coast dudes, the Seattle dudes, the DC dudes, the country dudes, etc. Only the NY dudes aren't that close, go figure) and he balls at Attack in the summer so he's not the most hated dude in the league. NBA dudes run in crews just like most guys from their demographic.

1. Jealousy. Guys feel like he has yet to "deserve" anything. He got "lucky" ending up in LA and then when he ended up in Phoenix with Nash inflating his numbers. There was a lot of "Anyone can step out and chuck 3's playing with Steve. That aggin ain't ****." I disagree since Q, hate him or love him does have NBA talent, but when you don't like a guy for other reasons, you'll find any reason to hate.

Beyond the Phoenix thing, and don't ever underestimate how petty NBA players can be - Q's always received hate over being one of the original guys signed to a Jordan Brand contract. He only got it because he balls at Attack with Tim Grover, MJ's trainer. Again, don't ever underestimate the bitch like behavior.

Then there's playing in LA and NY. As bad as the Clips were when he was there and as bad as the Knicks have been while he's been here, a lot of middle of the pack guys on the same tier as him would kill to play here or in LA for a little shine, the lifestyle, etc.

2. Brandy. A lot of guys viewed him as a groupie off that situation especially since Brandy's been around the block a couple of times in the NBA. That whole situation is way too gossipy for an NBA board, but the gist was that Q was playing Capt.

3. Rumors about his preference. No further comment.

4. Some feel like when Q is getting his, he's all about team. When he's not, he's all about Q. ie: when he got to NY, bashing D'Antoni for not letting him "play his post up game" and declaring Isiah as "his guy" claiming a Chicago allegiance only to turn around and get into fights with Isiah during games and practices and then hop back on D'Antoni when he came to the Knicks.

5. Guys think he's just a loud mouth. Obviously this latest situation doesn't change that perception. Truth be told, he really doesn't ever STFU, but it's never really bothered me. Then again, I don't have to play with or against him.

Some guys don't think he's a real leader and think he thinks he's better than he is. He's not the only one in that boat though. Guys will always consider a "leader" on a bad team to be fake. Plus Q talks A LOT on the court. Guys dealt with GP and Sam Cassell because when they talked trash, they did it a certain way and had fun with it. Q's got a chip on his shoulder out there. Some guys have said they wonder what Q's problem is and view him in the same vein of a Kendrick Perkins.

awesome stuff right there dude.

pretty much what i figured, hes a loud mouth and he doesnt back it up with performance
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12/3/2008  5:01 PM
He is right. The Knicks should not have pretended that he was ever in their plans. Marbury did do what was asked of him. I don't want him on the team but Walsh should have handled this in the summer. I thought when he hired D'Antoni he would protect him from some of the dysfunction. Marbury is an easy target and should not be a Knick but that does not excuse the lack of professionalism that has been employed in dealing with him.
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12/3/2008  5:11 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:
Posted by Allanfan20:

NYsportsfan, Q always seemed like one of the more likeable guys amongst the Knicks players. What is the dislike for him for, across the league? Not that it matters.

Q's got friends around the L, don't get me wrong but he is polarizing. 99% of the Chicago cats in the L stick together (just like the west coast dudes, the Seattle dudes, the DC dudes, the country dudes, etc. Only the NY dudes aren't that close, go figure) and he balls at Attack in the summer so he's not the most hated dude in the league. NBA dudes run in crews just like most guys from their demographic.

1. Jealousy. Guys feel like he has yet to "deserve" anything. He got "lucky" ending up in LA and then when he ended up in Phoenix with Nash inflating his numbers. There was a lot of "Anyone can step out and chuck 3's playing with Steve. That aggin ain't ****." I disagree since Q, hate him or love him does have NBA talent, but when you don't like a guy for other reasons, you'll find any reason to hate.

Beyond the Phoenix thing, and don't ever underestimate how petty NBA players can be - Q's always received hate over being one of the original guys signed to a Jordan Brand contract. He only got it because he balls at Attack with Tim Grover, MJ's trainer. Again, don't ever underestimate the bitch like behavior.

Then there's playing in LA and NY. As bad as the Clips were when he was there and as bad as the Knicks have been while he's been here, a lot of middle of the pack guys on the same tier as him would kill to play here or in LA for a little shine, the lifestyle, etc.

2. Brandy. A lot of guys viewed him as a groupie off that situation especially since Brandy's been around the block a couple of times in the NBA. That whole situation is way too gossipy for an NBA board, but the gist was that Q was playing Capt.

3. Rumors about his preference. No further comment.

4. Some feel like when Q is getting his, he's all about team. When he's not, he's all about Q. ie: when he got to NY, bashing D'Antoni for not letting him "play his post up game" and declaring Isiah as "his guy" claiming a Chicago allegiance only to turn around and get into fights with Isiah during games and practices and then hop back on D'Antoni when he came to the Knicks.

5. Guys think he's just a loud mouth. Obviously this latest situation doesn't change that perception. Truth be told, he really doesn't ever STFU, but it's never really bothered me. Then again, I don't have to play with or against him.

Some guys don't think he's a real leader and think he thinks he's better than he is. He's not the only one in that boat though. Guys will always consider a "leader" on a bad team to be fake. Plus Q talks A LOT on the court. Guys dealt with GP and Sam Cassell because when they talked trash, they did it a certain way and had fun with it. Q's got a chip on his shoulder out there. Some guys have said they wonder what Q's problem is and view him in the same vein of a Kendrick Perkins.

That is some interesting stuff right there. I know I've heard alot of reports this year of the Celtics taking alot of exception for QRich doing alot of talking on the court and that he was acting rather "fugazy" for lack of a better term. Great stuff 11.
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12/3/2008  5:29 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:
Posted by Allanfan20:

NYsportsfan, Q always seemed like one of the more likeable guys amongst the Knicks players. What is the dislike for him for, across the league? Not that it matters.

Q's got friends around the L, don't get me wrong but he is polarizing. 99% of the Chicago cats in the L stick together (just like the west coast dudes, the Seattle dudes, the DC dudes, the country dudes, etc. Only the NY dudes aren't that close, go figure) and he balls at Attack in the summer so he's not the most hated dude in the league. NBA dudes run in crews just like most guys from their demographic.

1. Jealousy. Guys feel like he has yet to "deserve" anything. He got "lucky" ending up in LA and then when he ended up in Phoenix with Nash inflating his numbers. There was a lot of "Anyone can step out and chuck 3's playing with Steve. That aggin ain't ****." I disagree since Q, hate him or love him does have NBA talent, but when you don't like a guy for other reasons, you'll find any reason to hate.

Beyond the Phoenix thing, and don't ever underestimate how petty NBA players can be - Q's always received hate over being one of the original guys signed to a Jordan Brand contract. He only got it because he balls at Attack with Tim Grover, MJ's trainer. Again, don't ever underestimate the bitch like behavior.

Then there's playing in LA and NY. As bad as the Clips were when he was there and as bad as the Knicks have been while he's been here, a lot of middle of the pack guys on the same tier as him would kill to play here or in LA for a little shine, the lifestyle, etc.

2. Brandy. A lot of guys viewed him as a groupie off that situation especially since Brandy's been around the block a couple of times in the NBA. That whole situation is way too gossipy for an NBA board, but the gist was that Q was playing Capt.

3. Rumors about his preference. No further comment.

4. Some feel like when Q is getting his, he's all about team. When he's not, he's all about Q. ie: when he got to NY, bashing D'Antoni for not letting him "play his post up game" and declaring Isiah as "his guy" claiming a Chicago allegiance only to turn around and get into fights with Isiah during games and practices and then hop back on D'Antoni when he came to the Knicks.

5. Guys think he's just a loud mouth. Obviously this latest situation doesn't change that perception. Truth be told, he really doesn't ever STFU, but it's never really bothered me. Then again, I don't have to play with or against him.

Some guys don't think he's a real leader and think he thinks he's better than he is. He's not the only one in that boat though. Guys will always consider a "leader" on a bad team to be fake. Plus Q talks A LOT on the court. Guys dealt with GP and Sam Cassell because when they talked trash, they did it a certain way and had fun with it. Q's got a chip on his shoulder out there. Some guys have said they wonder what Q's problem is and view him in the same vein of a Kendrick Perkins.

Very insightful do you have some league connects? If you do I want tell anyone.
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12/3/2008  5:35 PM

HUH?...Q bats for the other team???

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12/3/2008  5:58 PM
Posted by holfresh:


HUH?...Q bats for the other team???


That's been floating around as a rumor from back when and Brandy broke up.
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12/3/2008  7:04 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by holfresh:


HUH?...Q bats for the other team???


That's been floating around as a rumor from back when and Brandy broke up.

Wow...Didn't see that one coming...

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12/3/2008  7:07 PM
Q Rich talks too much trash for a scrub and cries like a baby many times, especially against the Celtics. Dude is a joke. The only thing agreed with him on was Marbury but everything else he should keep his mouth shut.
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12/3/2008  11:18 PM
This is an interesting thread. There was an article with three sentences that said that Mark Jackson did not think the Knicks handled the Marbury situation right. That translates to bitterness on his part? He or may not be bitter but I agree with what he said. Walsh needed to handle the Marbury situation in the summer. How did a thread about Marbury and Mjax become a hatchet thread against Q and every aspect of his life?
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12/3/2008  11:55 PM
Posted by nysportsfan11:
Posted by Allanfan20:

NYsportsfan, Q always seemed like one of the more likeable guys amongst the Knicks players. What is the dislike for him for, across the league? Not that it matters.

Q's got friends around the L, don't get me wrong but he is polarizing. 99% of the Chicago cats in the L stick together (just like the west coast dudes, the Seattle dudes, the DC dudes, the country dudes, etc. Only the NY dudes aren't that close, go figure) and he balls at Attack in the summer so he's not the most hated dude in the league. NBA dudes run in crews just like most guys from their demographic.

1. Jealousy. Guys feel like he has yet to "deserve" anything. He got "lucky" ending up in LA and then when he ended up in Phoenix with Nash inflating his numbers. There was a lot of "Anyone can step out and chuck 3's playing with Steve. That aggin ain't ****." I disagree since Q, hate him or love him does have NBA talent, but when you don't like a guy for other reasons, you'll find any reason to hate.

Beyond the Phoenix thing, and don't ever underestimate how petty NBA players can be - Q's always received hate over being one of the original guys signed to a Jordan Brand contract. He only got it because he balls at Attack with Tim Grover, MJ's trainer. Again, don't ever underestimate the bitch like behavior.

Then there's playing in LA and NY. As bad as the Clips were when he was there and as bad as the Knicks have been while he's been here, a lot of middle of the pack guys on the same tier as him would kill to play here or in LA for a little shine, the lifestyle, etc.

2. Brandy. A lot of guys viewed him as a groupie off that situation especially since Brandy's been around the block a couple of times in the NBA. That whole situation is way too gossipy for an NBA board, but the gist was that Q was playing Capt.

3. Rumors about his preference. No further comment.

4. Some feel like when Q is getting his, he's all about team. When he's not, he's all about Q. ie: when he got to NY, bashing D'Antoni for not letting him "play his post up game" and declaring Isiah as "his guy" claiming a Chicago allegiance only to turn around and get into fights with Isiah during games and practices and then hop back on D'Antoni when he came to the Knicks.

5. Guys think he's just a loud mouth. Obviously this latest situation doesn't change that perception. Truth be told, he really doesn't ever STFU, but it's never really bothered me. Then again, I don't have to play with or against him.

Some guys don't think he's a real leader and think he thinks he's better than he is. He's not the only one in that boat though. Guys will always consider a "leader" on a bad team to be fake. Plus Q talks A LOT on the court. Guys dealt with GP and Sam Cassell because when they talked trash, they did it a certain way and had fun with it. Q's got a chip on his shoulder out there. Some guys have said they wonder what Q's problem is and view him in the same vein of a Kendrick Perkins.


That's why he should have zipped his trap as Chris Webber called him out the other day on the Marbury situation.



http://tube.thayard.net/media/1068/CHRI ... ICHARDSON/




He talks way too much and can't be taken seriously. I understand completely now why he and Marbury almost got into a fight. 1 Azzhole trying to put a bigger Azzhole in check.


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12/4/2008  9:39 AM
Why didn't C Webb or Payton say anything about Marb ragging on his teamates (in the papers like Q) about leaving him for dead and shooting him the back of his head? If ots a fraternaty it should work both ways......
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12/4/2008  10:10 AM
I didn't even read the article but nobody messes with my man Mark Jackson! Back up fools!

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12/4/2008  10:13 AM
Posted by oohah:

I didn't even read the article but nobody messes with my man Mark Jackson! Back up fools!

oohah

LOL. I like that answer.
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12/4/2008  11:17 AM
Posted by holfresh:


HUH?...Q bats for the other team???


I've always heard that he was into Tranny's.
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12/4/2008  11:17 AM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by holfresh:


HUH?...Q bats for the other team???


I've always heard that he was into Tranny's.

i thought that was Eddie Murphy.
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12/4/2008  12:04 PM
So it's OK for a guy to write "All Alone" in his sneakers for all to see and basically disrespect the whole team than a guy who gave an honest answer to a question posed to him after a game where they were short handed and said player refused to play?

CWebb and Gary Payton need to STFU. It is hyporitical to call out one guy and not the other. At least QRich is consistent with his actions.
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12/4/2008  7:59 PM
Posted by Elite:
Posted by crzymdups:

hey, mark jackson, are you still angry you weren't hired to be coach of the knicks? :rolls eyes:

it raelly sound like it, im happy he didnt get the job i never liked mark jackson... especailly as a tv commentator.. hes so annyoing and he doesnt know half as much as he acts like he does

Don't even get me started on him. A lot of people wanted him over Walsh and then D'Antoni.
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