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JohnWallace44
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12/1/2008  1:04 PM
Fine Jerome, we'll put your 400 pound keester on the court and have you try to run with Nate and the rest of the 2nd unit.

That will go well.

You'll have a career ending injury in about your third trip down the court and then we'll be done with you.

Let's do that.
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12/1/2008  1:05 PM
When can we claim the medical exemption on James? Isn't it sometime this month. If he says that he wants to play and the team won't play him, does that affect the medical exemption?
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12/1/2008  1:07 PM
Knicks should offer to buyout his option next year for 4 mil
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12/1/2008  1:57 PM
How on earth can you sign these fat mother****ers without putting a clause in their contract that says players must report in game shape or they will be suspended and fined.
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12/1/2008  1:58 PM
Posted by Rookie:

If he's healthy and in game shape, why not? Gives us another body on the bench and he might even help us match up against some of the bigger teams. I'm not saying he should start, but he is an able body that is available now. MDA's comments after the LAC game when asked about Curry's status was short but direct. He didn't know and didn't sound as if Curry was part of his team. It's looking like you only get one chance with MDA, we'll see if he plays him. More likely, Curry is gone as soon as possible. I'm curious to see if MDA and Walsh will be on the same page on Curry. James could fill the role and he's ready to play now. He has a good attitude about his role and WANTS to play. I'd like to see him get some minutes.

[Edited by - Rookie on 12-01-2008 10:51 AM]

If hes healthy and in game shape? By healthy do you mean able to move up and down the court for 5 minutes in a row without losing hes wind? By game shape do you mean being able to contribute a stat line of 2 points, 3 rebounds, and 6 fouls in 5 minutes of action? Cmon man, Jerome James?
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12/1/2008  2:00 PM
Posted by arkrud:

We are not so bad to have Jerome entertaining the MSG crowd.
He is not dumb - he made a lot of money for nothing. Even clown needs to work hard to be paid.
But there is no need for clowns any more... he should sign back with Globetrotters.




[Edited by - arkrud on 12-01-2008 12:45 PM]

Globetrotters? No way. They were created in chicago. Quentin, Curry and Isiah are products of chicago. No thanks. Although I must say that Q has taken some charge in his life again lately.
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12/1/2008  2:03 PM
Posted by MS:

How on earth can you sign these fat mother****ers without putting a clause in their contract that says players must report in game shape or they will be suspended and fined.

FINALLY! A man that makes sense. Thank you!
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12/1/2008  2:07 PM
THere's a global food shortage, made worse by the credit crunch (farmers can't get loans), and you want to *free* Jerome James?
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12/1/2008  2:14 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

THere's a global food shortage, made worse by the credit crunch (farmers can't get loans), and you want to *free* Jerome James?

Yeah, I'm in the 'play them or get rid of them' camp now. Marbury, Mobley, James, Galinari, Curry - Maybe I should have titled this thread - Free Roster Spots
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12/1/2008  2:20 PM
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

THere's a global food shortage, made worse by the credit crunch (farmers can't get loans), and you want to *free* Jerome James?

Yeah, I'm in the 'play them or get rid of them' camp now. Marbury, Mobley, James, Galinari, Curry - Maybe I should have titled this thread - Free Roster Spots

Well, then, I'm with you... though I think the team *should* play those guys, then trade them. The Knicks aren't going to get anything of value or even a crappier player with a shorter contract unless they actually get these guys playing.
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12/1/2008  4:07 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

THere's a global food shortage, made worse by the credit crunch (farmers can't get loans), and you want to *free* Jerome James?

Yeah, I'm in the 'play them or get rid of them' camp now. Marbury, Mobley, James, Galinari, Curry - Maybe I should have titled this thread - Free Roster Spots

Well, then, I'm with you... though I think the team *should* play those guys, then trade them. The Knicks aren't going to get anything of value or even a crappier player with a shorter contract unless they actually get these guys playing.

I totally agree. I think what's bothering me the most is MDA's unwillingness to 'play them'. We can't even field a practice team without the coaches having to suit up. I understand that to undo the bad decisions that have preceded will take some time, but Walsh needs to also understand that his approach of 'patience' might be the wrong one when what we need right now is a few proactive moves. These guys want to play chess when what we need is a good game of checkers.
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12/1/2008  4:10 PM
I disagree. Stand by your principles. It's the only way you raise standards and change the culture.
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12/1/2008  4:19 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

I disagree. Stand by your principles. It's the only way you raise standards and change the culture.

Meanwhile, the list of players on the roster who can't play or won't be played is growing instead of decreasing. Good thing we have a soft schedule in the month of December because one or two more injuries and we're in deep doo doo. How are new guys supposed to learn the system when we can't even field ten players for a practice squad?
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12/1/2008  4:34 PM
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by Bippity10:

I disagree. Stand by your principles. It's the only way you raise standards and change the culture.

Meanwhile, the list of players on the roster who can't play or won't be played is growing instead of decreasing. Good thing we have a soft schedule in the month of December because one or two more injuries and we're in deep doo doo. How are new guys supposed to learn the system when we can't even field ten players for a practice squad?

Adversity is a tough thing. It sucks being shorthanded. But adaversity sometimes makes the team. This type of adversity can bring the team together and galvanize them. The team could work even harder to help TT and Al into the fold. This could bring the team together if it doesn't kill them. Seeing there teammates struggling should encourage JJ and Eddie to work even harder to get back in the line-up so that they can help. Of course it won't. So instead if Mike plays them when they are out of shape what message does it send to them? I never have to work to get minutes. This is why they are who they are in the first place. Because everyone has given in and given them minutes.
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12/1/2008  4:55 PM
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

THere's a global food shortage, made worse by the credit crunch (farmers can't get loans), and you want to *free* Jerome James?

Yeah, I'm in the 'play them or get rid of them' camp now. Marbury, Mobley, James, Galinari, Curry - Maybe I should have titled this thread - Free Roster Spots

You need to sell more newspapers here.
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12/1/2008  4:57 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

I disagree. Stand by your principles. It's the only way you raise standards and change the culture.

You get a big:

"BINGO"!!!

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12/1/2008  5:13 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by Bippity10:

I disagree. Stand by your principles. It's the only way you raise standards and change the culture.

Meanwhile, the list of players on the roster who can't play or won't be played is growing instead of decreasing. Good thing we have a soft schedule in the month of December because one or two more injuries and we're in deep doo doo. How are new guys supposed to learn the system when we can't even field ten players for a practice squad?

Adversity is a tough thing. It sucks being shorthanded. But adaversity sometimes makes the team. This type of adversity can bring the team together and galvanize them. The team could work even harder to help TT and Al into the fold. This could bring the team together if it doesn't kill them. Seeing there teammates struggling should encourage JJ and Eddie to work even harder to get back in the line-up so that they can help. Of course it won't. So instead if Mike plays them when they are out of shape what message does it send to them? I never have to work to get minutes. This is why they are who they are in the first place. Because everyone has given in and given them minutes.


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12/1/2008  5:14 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by Bippity10:

I disagree. Stand by your principles. It's the only way you raise standards and change the culture.

Meanwhile, the list of players on the roster who can't play or won't be played is growing instead of decreasing. Good thing we have a soft schedule in the month of December because one or two more injuries and we're in deep doo doo. How are new guys supposed to learn the system when we can't even field ten players for a practice squad?

Adversity is a tough thing. It sucks being shorthanded. But adaversity sometimes makes the team. This type of adversity can bring the team together and galvanize them. The team could work even harder to help TT and Al into the fold. This could bring the team together if it doesn't kill them. Seeing there teammates struggling should encourage JJ and Eddie to work even harder to get back in the line-up so that they can help. Of course it won't. So instead if Mike plays them when they are out of shape what message does it send to them? I never have to work to get minutes. This is why they are who they are in the first place. Because everyone has given in and given them minutes.


Absolutely one of the best posts EVER bippity.

Your comment goes beneath the obvious and speaks directly to the delicate exercise of team building. Larry Brown wanted to tear everyone down through chaos and sniping. Isiah failed to heed the team vote last year and paid the price with dissent and confusion. Both lost the respect through inconsistency.

No matter what anytone thinks of D'Antoni, he has the attention and respect of his players. That is the only thing that matters. The first eight have embraced the program and it will only be a minute before Eddy Curry, Jerome James work their way back - or they are gone.

it will be big fun watching the newly assembled parts discover their collective courage over the next few months







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12/1/2008  5:20 PM
Posted by misterearl:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by Bippity10:

I disagree. Stand by your principles. It's the only way you raise standards and change the culture.

Meanwhile, the list of players on the roster who can't play or won't be played is growing instead of decreasing. Good thing we have a soft schedule in the month of December because one or two more injuries and we're in deep doo doo. How are new guys supposed to learn the system when we can't even field ten players for a practice squad?

Adversity is a tough thing. It sucks being shorthanded. But adaversity sometimes makes the team. This type of adversity can bring the team together and galvanize them. The team could work even harder to help TT and Al into the fold. This could bring the team together if it doesn't kill them. Seeing there teammates struggling should encourage JJ and Eddie to work even harder to get back in the line-up so that they can help. Of course it won't. So instead if Mike plays them when they are out of shape what message does it send to them? I never have to work to get minutes. This is why they are who they are in the first place. Because everyone has given in and given them minutes.


Absolutely one of the best posts EVER bippity.

Your comment goes beneath the obvious and speaks directly to the delicate exercise of team building. Larry Brown wanted to tear everyone down through chaos and sniping. Isiah failed to heed the team vote last year and paid the price with dissent and confusion. Both lost the respect through inconsistency.

Auu, I thought Marbury was the one who destroyed both of their careers.
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12/1/2008  5:22 PM
Posted by misterearl:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Rookie:
Posted by Bippity10:

I disagree. Stand by your principles. It's the only way you raise standards and change the culture.

Meanwhile, the list of players on the roster who can't play or won't be played is growing instead of decreasing. Good thing we have a soft schedule in the month of December because one or two more injuries and we're in deep doo doo. How are new guys supposed to learn the system when we can't even field ten players for a practice squad?

Adversity is a tough thing. It sucks being shorthanded. But adaversity sometimes makes the team. This type of adversity can bring the team together and galvanize them. The team could work even harder to help TT and Al into the fold. This could bring the team together if it doesn't kill them. Seeing there teammates struggling should encourage JJ and Eddie to work even harder to get back in the line-up so that they can help. Of course it won't. So instead if Mike plays them when they are out of shape what message does it send to them? I never have to work to get minutes. This is why they are who they are in the first place. Because everyone has given in and given them minutes.


Absolutely one of the best posts EVER bippity.

Your comment goes beneath the obvious and speaks directly to the delicate exercise of team building. Larry Brown wanted to tear everyone down through chaos and sniping. Isiah failed to heed the team vote last year and paid the price with dissent and confusion. Both lost the respect through inconsistency.

No matter what anytone thinks of D'Antoni, he has the attention and respect of his players. That is the only thing that matters. The first eight have embraced the program and it will only be a minute before Eddy Curry, Jerome James work their way back - or they are gone.

it will be big fun watching the newly assembled parts discover their collective courage over the next few months





Thanks man.

I think one of our big problems in the past has been that everytime we are faced with adversity the team just outright quit. It was partly due to the chaos around the team and partly due to guys getting minutes based on contracts/or being one of Isiah's centerpeices etc. But this team is fighting. Even if they lose. Even if they go down to injuries as they log extra minutes, this team is fighting. And they are learning what it takes. That is far more important in my view than rushing Eddie or JJ into a line-up just so we may win an extra game here or there. If they are out of shape, they don't play. I'd rather D'Antoni offer the spot to Marbs again :)
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