Posted by BasketballJones:

"Mike had no intentions of me playing basketball here," Marbury said. "He gave me straight disrespect. It was beyond disrespect. He put in (Danilo) Gallinari, whose back is messed up and [who] didn't participate at all in training camp ahead of me [in the opener]. . . . That's saying I'm letting you have it right now. He was sticking it to me."

Hmmm... Steph is not so dumb. He get it.

Posted by Bippity10:

I repeat: Why do we care about Stephon Marbury? He has done nothing for us. In his tenure we have won 23, 33 and 23 games. Why do we care?

We'll all sit back the next few days and just watch Marbury's true colors come to the surface. He's said these things before, so the notion that he hasn't said a word only goes to show you that Marbury knew he was finally in for a run against everything he's stood for ever since he got here. He wanted to keep it hush, hush, hoping it would back fire on D'Antoni, but D already knew what to do with dude from the beginning.

Absolute great move on his part in finally getting this disease off this team. I love the part were Marbury says Walsh didn't even give him a chance to tell his side of the story. I'm loving every last moment of this. Getting rid of this guy is a win-win situation.

I say take his one million dollar offer, and pay the rest but only if:

He doesn't play for another team in this league, for the rest of the season (and why would anyone care to argue with that?).

He keeps his mouth shut about Donnie, D'Antoni and his x-teammates and has no contact with any of them.

Does not come after the Knicks with a lawsuit.

And if he wants to, (and if anyone else wants to) he can go play in another country.

If' he refuses any of those conditions, then keep him on payroll, and keep him the hell away from MSG and the Knicks. Make him suffer on his own and if he continues to bad mouth the franchise, then sue him!

Not everybody is expected to read the bible though. And a lot of people don't. I have always believed that whatever faith you come from, if you believe in it, if you live that life in a good way, then I wish you all the more power. I also learned that it can be a private matter. I don't subscribe to anyone who fights over a faith.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Bippity10:

I repeat: Why do we care about Stephon Marbury? He has done nothing for us. In his tenure we have won 23, 33 and 23 games. Why do we care?

I totally agree. Nobody cares what this moron thinks, says or does. What I do care about though is how the Knicks GM and head coach handles situations like this and others concerning their players. Because that has a direct impact on the public perception of the team and affects their ability to attract good players, coaches and executives.

I don't disagree with you, but can you imagine a scenario in which marbury would not have created a distraction? Unless he was getting the ball every trip down court and able to run the offense they way he wanted to, we all know eventually D'Antoni and Walsh would look bad. Marbs has done this to everyone. The only solution would have been to cut him before the season. In hindsight this was probably the right course of action.

Posted by franco12:

Posted by crzymdups:

watching a highlight reel of young marbury highlights on youtube... it's so sad what could have been. he's a selfish headcase now, but then... he was a selfish headcase with a helluva a crossover and such a crazy skill set who could just overpower other PGs...



[Edited by - crzymdups on 01-12-2008 11:35 AM]

He is a bit like Tim Thomas, in that both have incredible skill sets and athletic abilities, but both have underachieved.

You wouldn't think a player would pass less as they got older, but Marbury seems to have regressed in that regard.

I gave him a clean slate when he got here- defended him some.

But wow, I was wrong.

Good Bye Cancerbury. The only problem with him signing with Miami is he will undoubtedly seal their victory in being a top lotto team!

In terms of performance on the court Steph far exceeds Tim Thomas, I think. Marbury never really cruised in games at all. He played hard, and hurt. I mean dude never missed games, and always went to the rack. Thomas has had the physical ability to do that, but just never the consistent desire to use them.

I don't think with Steph it's been a question of desire.

It's been a question of the challenges he faced with compromise, ego, and communication/social skills that hurt him, unfortunately.

He's an interesting figure, because I think he has meant well, as we can see with his altruistic side in the case of his actions with his shoes and the huge donation regarding Katrina, which I think is hard to be ignored by his biggest detractors as meaningless, as much as some may try. Yet when it came to working with people, I think this is where he has struggled.

It became too much about him, either as the star or the victim.

I think this is not actually the most unusual way to view the world than some of us may think. There are many people out there like him, particularly those that have had difficult backgrounds that never led to a fruitful life, and why I think some gravitated to him. It's just that usually these folks don't make it to the level that Steph has, which is also a testament to the work he put in to balling.

Sadly, it was not enough, and now it has led him to even more isolation and alienation. Sure, he's got loads of money, but wonder if he wouldn't trade that in for more respect and affirmation? Money doesn't buy happiness anyway after basic needs are met (for the most part). So while some of us may envy his $22 million salary this year for no play, and see him holding onto that for dear life, it could be a defense mechanism he's developed to hold on to the one thing he has to show how great he once was considered, yet it also seems like a sign of desperation.

As much as I am ready to see him go, I do feel some empathy for him, and others like him in the world, despite how easily they leave themselves open to villan-hood.



[Edited by - PresIke on 12-01-2008 2:25 PM]

Its taken Uptown this long to figure out Marbury is delusional. almost everyone knew that Marbury lost his marbles a long time ago.

Posted by Nalod:



Phone home for the truth.

We are not alone.

Now that's funny

Posted by nysportsfan11:

1. Steph's been bailing on his teammates for the last 13 years. But once again it's all about him. He doesn't realize that what his teammates did to him THIS ONCE is nothing like what he did to KG, KVH, Dice, Jamal, H20, Googs, Flip, Lenny, even Isiah/Larry, Marion, Malik, Byron Scott, Casey, etc. He doesn't realize these are the same teammates that have gone above and beyond to put up with his **** and just finally had enough.

2. Steph's trust issues on the court, which led to him wasting talent, opportunities and maybe even a career, are nothing more than a byproduct of his trust issues OFF the court. Those of us in CI who watched him grow up and those of us around the NY basketball community have always said that if Eric or Norm (or even Donnie) made the NBA, Steph would have been better off because he could have learned to be himself (or just been a damn kid) instead of what everyone else wanted him to be. Unlike the rest of us, Steph has never been told no and even when he was, he could just get whatever it was from someone else. And as dumb and stubborn as he is, even he realizes that that's only for one reason...what he could do on the court. So he just assumes everyone's out for something and from a young age, figured he should "get his" anyway regardless of whether your intentions were genuine or not.

The Marburys finally got one of their boys in the League and probably ruined him at the same time.

Interesting take and one that almost evokes empathy for him. Im sure its not easy being him with so many tugging at him for many reasons. He as been cast by others. Kind of sad in many ways. He does seem to grasp for some peace and presence in the world. He does not hurt anyone, im sure supports many people and mostly does good things with his money. Ok, maybe the jet thing is over the top.

But as an employee of MSG, or any other club he worked for, he has been a disaster. Im sure he is totally getting phuched over now but its kind of self inflicted. MSG is pretty good to its players. You put out for them and they honor their end.

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