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islesfan
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11/28/2008  11:27 AM
Posted by GallOfFame:

Anybody want to put a friendly wager up that Marbury wins his file of grievance?

Shades of Isiah vs Marbury on the team plan circa 2007-2008.

Good grief do we have another incompetent GM and coach concerning the Marbury issue.

[Edited by - GallOfFame on 11-28-2008 11:19 AM]

He won't win it. The Knicks will cave before that, knowing that they have no case.

The Circus is still in town.

Wasn't Walsh brought in here for his professionalism?
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11/28/2008  11:27 AM
Let's pretend that DAntoni did the same thing to another player, without Marbury's history. Would you still think that he handled the situation properly?
you cant act like that isnt relevent... because it is. Dont you think they showcased Marbury hoping to get someone to bite on a trade?

I also think that MDA and Walsh needed a good start to this season and putting Marbury out of picture right away was paramount, and it worked. Knicks got off to a good start and were able to trade away easy their worst two contracts after 3 weeks of BB.
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11/28/2008  11:30 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Let's pretend that DAntoni did the same thing to another player, without Marbury's history. Would you still think that he handled the situation properly?
you cant act like that isnt relevent... because it is. Dont you think they showcased Marbury hoping to get someone to bite on a trade?

I also think that MDA and Walsh needed a good start to this season and putting Marbury out of picture right away was paramount, and it worked. Knicks got off to a good start and were able to trade away easy their worst two contracts after 3 weeks of BB.

How is it relevant? I have no problem with them allowing Marbury to play in the preseason and showcasing him. It's the way that they've handled it since then that I disagree with.
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11/28/2008  11:37 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by GallOfFame:

Anybody want to put a friendly wager up that Marbury wins his file of grievance?

Shades of Isiah vs Marbury on the team plan circa 2007-2008.

Good grief do we have another incompetent GM and coach concerning the Marbury issue.


I can't for the life of me figure out how these two Dweebs managed to botch this up and go there again with this Fool.
He won't win it. The Knicks will cave before that, knowing that they have no case.

The Circus is still in town.

Wasn't Walsh brought in here for his professionalism?


This guy was asleep the past few yrs in Indiana and it has carried over here. We do recall how bad they handled their problematic players towards the end of his tenure.

Those Al Queda In Caves premeditated miniature questionnaires coach had with player have proven to be another monstrous black eye and a crutch of an excuse for a season soon to implode.



[Edited by - GallOfFame on 11-28-2008 11:39 AM]
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11/28/2008  12:36 PM
Nalod, did you say utes??? Shades of My Cousin Vinny
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11/28/2008  12:38 PM
He deserves to be suspended.

Marbury is being paid better than 99% of Americans and if he's asked to perform his job, he should oblige - and happily.
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11/28/2008  12:43 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:
Posted by SlimPack:
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They keep handling this wrong. Why not just tell him from now on to stay at home?

I agree, I don't agree with Walsh's handling of the situation at all. I don't like the way Dantoni is handling it either. I think it's mostly his fault for now coming out and admitting he wouldn't give Marbury a clean slate.

How clean a slate are we talking here for mr. Truck sex?

The players on the team hate the guy. Do you want to support Steph and kill the team just to give him a "clean slate"?

D'Antoni is trying to manage a bunch of crazy personalities. I'm amazed he's done this well.

If Marbury doesn't deserve a clean slate (and I'm not necessarily saying that he does) then the right thing to do would be to tell him that from the start, and not lead him on only to tell him that he won't play at all. And it makes no sense that after that Dantoni would "ask" him to play because the team is desperate for bodies, because obviously he isn't going to do the team any favors after they told him they don't want or need him.

Dantoni should have told Walsh from the beginning that he didn't like Marbury and wouldn't be willing to give him a chance with the team. Also Walsh should've bought out Marbury when he found out the coach wouldn't play him, especially considering his history in such situations. Instead of doing that, Walsh tried to squeeze every penny out of Marbury, and left him on the bench increasing the chances of the situation escalating. And of course, as anyone could have predicted, it did.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 11-28-2008 12:45 PM]
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11/28/2008  12:43 PM
Why is Marbury being suspended for refusing D'Antoni's request to play in the Detroit game but not the Milwaukee game?
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11/28/2008  12:48 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Let's pretend that DAntoni did the same thing to another player, without Marbury's history. Would you still think that he handled the situation properly?
you cant act like that isnt relevent... because it is. Dont you think they showcased Marbury hoping to get someone to bite on a trade?

I also think that MDA and Walsh needed a good start to this season and putting Marbury out of picture right away was paramount, and it worked. Knicks got off to a good start and were able to trade away easy their worst two contracts after 3 weeks of BB.

If you want Marbury out of the picture then he should be sent home away from the team, not sitting on the bench and still going to practices in case he's needed for a 1 or 2 game rental.

[Edited by - Slimpack on 11-28-2008 12:55 PM]
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11/28/2008  12:54 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Why is Marbury being suspended for refusing D'Antoni's request to play in the Detroit game but not the Milwaukee game?

Very good question and it's been confirmed our GM wasn't with the team in Detroit. So who is confirming the events taking place. Despicable! it doesn't get anymore unprofessional than this.
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11/28/2008  1:01 PM
if Marbury had played the role of the bigger man here and played when D'Antoni asked him to in Milwaukee and supported his teammates I would have been able to respect him again. Not like him, but respect him.

Of course he wasn't treated well be D'Antoni, but Marbury was presented the opportunity to be the bigger man and support the Knicks and try to rebuild his own career. He declined because he is thin-skinned and a loser. He does not ever deserve anyone's respect or attention ever again. Good riddance.
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11/28/2008  1:03 PM
Who's unprofessional? MikeD?

Have you been watching this crazy loon of a player the last few years?

If you were coaching this team amd everyone pointed to Marbs as a cancer, would you not try to put him in a corner and ignore him?
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11/28/2008  1:06 PM
that said, i do not approve of how walsh has handled this. between this and the draft, i am leery of his leadership.

this quote says a lot to me:
As one NBA executive said, "You have to be on the road with your team right now if you're Donnie. You can't wait until LeBron shows up in two years and then decide to travel with your team."

is Donnie on cruise control until 2010? i hope not. the D'Antoni hire was great, the Duhon signing was great, his Crawford trade was solid and the Zach trade was acceptable. i would have liked to get more draft picks in those trades rather than servicable players. i would have liked to have not given away Balkman. i would much prefer the Marbury situation was handled better. i would have liked if we used the 6th pick in the draft on a player.

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11/28/2008  1:11 PM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by Knicksfan:

They keep handling this wrong. Why not just tell him from now on to stay at home?

I agree, I don't agree with Walsh's handling of the situation at all. I don't like the way Dantoni is handling it either. I think it's mostly his fault for now coming out and admitting he wouldn't give Marbury a clean slate.

Say if I'm LeBron or Bosh or Amare or whoever, do you think I'm thinking "Man I'd love to be signed by those guys?"

What a disaster
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11/28/2008  1:17 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

that said, i do not approve of how walsh has handled this. between this and the draft, i am leery of his leadership.

this quote says a lot to me:
As one NBA executive said, "You have to be on the road with your team right now if you're Donnie. You can't wait until LeBron shows up in two years and then decide to travel with your team."

is Donnie on cruise control until 2010? i hope not. the D'Antoni hire was great, the Duhon signing was great, his Crawford trade was solid and the Zach trade was acceptable. i would have liked to get more draft picks in those trades rather than servicable players. i would have liked to have not given away Balkman. i would much prefer the Marbury situation was handled better. i would have liked if we used the 6th pick in the draft on a player.

I don't really care for Balkman, but I am beginning to hate the Gallinari pick. I understand he's injured, but that's becoming an excuse to me now. Donnie should've known that drafting an NBA ready player was one of the biggest keys in drawing the free agents of 2010.
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11/28/2008  1:17 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

that said, i do not approve of how walsh has handled this. between this and the draft, i am leery of his leadership.

this quote says a lot to me:
As one NBA executive said, "You have to be on the road with your team right now if you're Donnie. You can't wait until LeBron shows up in two years and then decide to travel with your team."

is Donnie on cruise control until 2010? i hope not. the D'Antoni hire was great, the Duhon signing was great, his Crawford trade was solid and the Zach trade was acceptable. i would have liked to get more draft picks in those trades rather than servicable players. i would have liked to have not given away Balkman. i would much prefer the Marbury situation was handled better. i would have liked if we used the 6th pick in the draft on a player.
The unnamded exec doesn't work for Dolan. Walsh got us cap room in 2010 and had to straighten out the Mobley issue in the early part of the week, it's probably okay that he had Thanksgiving with his family. The end game is at hand with Marbury.
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11/28/2008  1:21 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

that said, i do not approve of how walsh has handled this. between this and the draft, i am leery of his leadership.

this quote says a lot to me:
As one NBA executive said, "You have to be on the road with your team right now if you're Donnie. You can't wait until LeBron shows up in two years and then decide to travel with your team."

is Donnie on cruise control until 2010? i hope not. the D'Antoni hire was great, the Duhon signing was great, his Crawford trade was solid and the Zach trade was acceptable. i would have liked to get more draft picks in those trades rather than servicable players. i would have liked to have not given away Balkman. i would much prefer the Marbury situation was handled better. i would have liked if we used the 6th pick in the draft on a player.

Walsh seems to be very detached from the day to day operations of the team. At the beginning of this Marbury mess, Walsh said that he wasn't aware of what was going on and would have to talk to his coach.
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11/28/2008  1:54 PM
I have not heard coach Mike publicly say I gave Marbury a direct order to play and that he refuse to play. Asking is one thing, a direct order is another.and that is what Marbury is using against coach Mike. Not to say I agree with Marbury but this whole thing was handle wrong from the get go.

[Edited by - spreeeewell on 11-28-2008 2:04 PM]
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11/28/2008  4:41 PM
sending Marbury home with pay does not give us an extra roster spot. He was fined for 2 games, Detroit and tonights.

Almost over but it's a lot of money.
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11/28/2008  6:19 PM
i blame Dolan more than i blame Walsh or MDA for mishandling this situation... the other 2 guys' hands are tied w/o Dolan's consent to a buyout, which he refuses to sign off on at anything more than what he's already agreed to... Dolan is the one who doesn't give a rat's arse how much of a distraction Marbury's become, not Walsh or MDA... neither 1 of those guys even wanted Marbs here from the very beginning.

as for Marbs, he's an idiot, we all know this... u can't expect an idiot to act like he's got any common sense... the sooner he's gone the better off this franchise is.
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