Posted by SupremeCommander:

If this is the case, I wouldn't be surprised if all Walsh was doing was making Randolph unavailable to play last night.

Posted by BRIGGS:

I would threaten and execute to pull this deal off the table if they dont give us a pick. We have two years to find a better deal and were better with Zach if were trying to win then without him. The Clippers will have some heat because Eric Gordon played VERY good yesterday as a starter 25 points anmd it will be a cluster F if they bring him back. They have to pay us.

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

If this is the case, I wouldn't be surprised if all Walsh was doing was making Randolph unavailable to play last night.

Maybe but then it would probably be done and official now. I think he is really checking one last time if there is a better deal or if he can get a pick.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I would threaten and execute to pull this deal off the table if they dont give us a pick. We have two years to find a better deal and were better with Zach if were trying to win then without him. The Clippers will have some heat because Eric Gordon played VERY good yesterday as a starter 25 points anmd it will be a cluster F if they bring him back. They have to pay us.

Great; then Walsh develops the reputation of a man whose word means nothing. If you say you are going to accept a deal, don't pull any BS later. If you weren't gonna accept a deal without a 1st round pick included, have a little integretiy and say "no" when the deal is offered without the pick.

WTF, a man whose word means nothing? Give me a break, dude. If they find something wrong on the physical of the guy they are definitely trusting to keep the team competitive for two years, Walsh has all the right to back off of the deal. You give your word on a deal but if you find any surprise you have the right to stop the move. This may be to get cap in 2010, but Walsh is also counting on Mobley to hold the 2 spot for two years.

Fine back off the deal. Don't get cute and ask for 1st round picks. It's suspicious when no one will say what the physical problem is and when Mobley was healthy and playing well right before the trade. What goes around comes around and other GMs will do this to Walsh unless he makes it clear beyond any doubt that there is a specific physical problem with Mobley.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-25-2008 2:12 PM]

It has already been stated that is a heart issue and according to the media the Knicks are waiting for another test result due for the afternoon, so all this first round pick talk is just speculation from the media and fans rather than a real request from Donnie. If this sends any message to other GMs is that Donnie is in charge and will do his job efficiently no matter what, so you better deal with him fairly. People are panicking too much on this situation.

Posted by Nalod:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I would threaten and execute to pull this deal off the table if they dont give us a pick. We have two years to find a better deal and were better with Zach if were trying to win then without him. The Clippers will have some heat because Eric Gordon played VERY good yesterday as a starter 25 points anmd it will be a cluster F if they bring him back. They have to pay us.

Great; then Walsh develops the reputation of a man whose word means nothing. If you say you are going to accept a deal, don't pull any BS later. If you weren't gonna accept a deal without a 1st round pick included, have a little integretiy and say "no" when the deal is offered without the pick.

WTF, a man whose word means nothing? Give me a break, dude. If they find something wrong on the physical of the guy they are definitely trusting to keep the team competitive for two years, Walsh has all the right to back off of the deal. You give your word on a deal but if you find any surprise you have the right to stop the move. This may be to get cap in 2010, but Walsh is also counting on Mobley to hold the 2 spot for two years.

Fine back off the deal. Don't get cute and ask for 1st round picks. It's suspicious when no one will say what the physical problem is and when Mobley was healthy and playing well right before the trade. What goes around comes around and other GMs will do this to Walsh unless he makes it clear beyond any doubt that there is a specific physical problem with Mobley.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-25-2008 2:12 PM]

Its speculative as to what he would ask for.

Maybe the tests showed his condition, while acceptable for a number of years has escalated and makes him a bad investment. Then DUnleavy can offer either another player, or an incentive to take the contract.

Due dilligence must be done correct in order to protect the knicks interests. If the risk is acceptable and we sign off on it we are also liable for all the financial considerations that go with it.

Exactly. Its funny that some still have that loser's mentality where you just accept a bad situation just because you get a benefit from it. Fine, we need cap space, but Walsh also did this deal because Mobley is part of the next two years where he hopes the Knicks will be competitive. He is doing his job right and we can only be grateful we have such a professional president.

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Nalod:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I would threaten and execute to pull this deal off the table if they dont give us a pick. We have two years to find a better deal and were better with Zach if were trying to win then without him. The Clippers will have some heat because Eric Gordon played VERY good yesterday as a starter 25 points anmd it will be a cluster F if they bring him back. They have to pay us.

Great; then Walsh develops the reputation of a man whose word means nothing. If you say you are going to accept a deal, don't pull any BS later. If you weren't gonna accept a deal without a 1st round pick included, have a little integretiy and say "no" when the deal is offered without the pick.

WTF, a man whose word means nothing? Give me a break, dude. If they find something wrong on the physical of the guy they are definitely trusting to keep the team competitive for two years, Walsh has all the right to back off of the deal. You give your word on a deal but if you find any surprise you have the right to stop the move. This may be to get cap in 2010, but Walsh is also counting on Mobley to hold the 2 spot for two years.

Fine back off the deal. Don't get cute and ask for 1st round picks. It's suspicious when no one will say what the physical problem is and when Mobley was healthy and playing well right before the trade. What goes around comes around and other GMs will do this to Walsh unless he makes it clear beyond any doubt that there is a specific physical problem with Mobley.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-25-2008 2:12 PM]

Its speculative as to what he would ask for.

Maybe the tests showed his condition, while acceptable for a number of years has escalated and makes him a bad investment. Then DUnleavy can offer either another player, or an incentive to take the contract.

Due dilligence must be done correct in order to protect the knicks interests. If the risk is acceptable and we sign off on it we are also liable for all the financial considerations that go with it.

Exactly. Its funny that some still have that loser's mentality where you just accept a bad situation just because you get a benefit from it. Fine, we need cap space, but Walsh also did this deal because Mobley is part of the next two years where he hopes the Knicks will be competitive. He is doing his job right and we can only be grateful we have such a professional president.

I think it is important to make sure that all players are healthy and their work will not affect their physical condition.
It is just responsible way to do business.
He had this condition before and was cleared to play. They must to make sure it is still not a major problem.
After so many years of wrongdoings the normality looks like conspiracy to media and fans (not only to playa ). And this is understandable.



[Edited by - arkrud on 11-25-2008 2:50 PM]

[Edited by - arkrud on 11-25-2008 2:51 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by PhilinLA:

Cuttino and Fugazy are both practicing with the team right now.

They're letting him practice with an unknown heart condition?! I take it they've resolved whatever heart condition they supposedly found.

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by PhilinLA:

Cuttino and Fugazy are both practicing with the team right now.

They're letting him practice with an unknown heart condition?! I take it they've resolved whatever heart condition they supposedly found.

They probably got the results on the last tests they were doing...

Great; what was the point of telling anyone anything about the deal potentially being off before the test results were even done? Donnie pulled off a great deal and I'm thrilled about it but this last part of the deal was handled sloppily.

Again, media speculation can't be taken as fact. For all we officially know the Knicks just took more time before the last results came in.

Posted by VDesai:

This is exactly what I said on the thread last night- that Donnie's just delaying the deal cause he was upset from what happened over the summer...