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Knicks Interested In Carlos Boozer? WHY???
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11/25/2008  1:10 AM
Regardless of what moves are made, Curry has to go and if they can get rid of Zach and Crawford, then they most certainly do away with him (and Jeffries for that matter) to make room for what we need. We already know Donnie can pull strings and we know he can pull the right ones.
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11/25/2008  1:18 AM
Remember when Boozer wouldn't let that Blind Bat owner Gund Bamboozle him?
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11/25/2008  1:21 AM
Actually Boozer bamboozled the Cavs and he's a traitor for it.
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11/25/2008  1:26 AM
Posted by GKFv2:

Actually Boozer bamboozled the Cavs and he's a traitor for it.

Not really. Not if you look at what the Cavs were trying to do.


They were willing to give him a 3yr to full MLE deal instead of worrying about maxing him out the following season.


They could have renounced players at the time to beat the Utah offer but they chose not to.


Booz then told them "Hate the Game not the Player.
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11/25/2008  7:00 AM
I doubt Lebron wants to play with Boozer after he left him in Cleveland. Not sure if Boozer is better than Zach although he has less of a tendency to jack up shots and plays slightly better defense. Zach though has a better outside shot. I think Boozer makes $3-$4 mill less than Zach, so that probably makes him the better option but if we resign him, it will be at a Zach-like salary.
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11/25/2008  9:47 AM
How do we have room to sign a FA until 2010? This is not possible.

ALSO, if you want James, he might have hard feelings about playing with Boozer again.
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11/25/2008  11:31 AM
Posted by GallOfFame:
Posted by GKFv2:

Actually Boozer bamboozled the Cavs and he's a traitor for it.

Not really. Not if you look at what the Cavs were trying to do.


They were willing to give him a 3yr to full MLE deal instead of worrying about maxing him out the following season.


They could have renounced players at the time to beat the Utah offer but they chose not to.


Booz then told them "Hate the Game not the Player.

He shook hands with the GM and owner, basically agreeing to a deal, and then went back on his word.

[Edited by - sebstar on 11-25-2008 11:32 AM]
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11/25/2008  12:22 PM
Man, newspapers can write anything and we will hop on like it's gospel. There are a million free agents that we "could" be interested in.
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11/25/2008  12:27 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

Man, newspapers can write anything and we will hop on like it's gospel. There are a million free agents that we "could" be interested in.

Who says the wait for 2010 will be boring?
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11/25/2008  12:34 PM
I'd rather sign Paul Milsap(sp?) before I sign Carlos Boozer....If I was Utah, I'd look to trade Boozer asap to Miami for Marion some kinda way. Milsap is better than Boozer IMHO.
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11/25/2008  1:09 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by GallOfFame:
Posted by GKFv2:

Actually Boozer bamboozled the Cavs and he's a traitor for it.

Not really. Not if you look at what the Cavs were trying to do.


They were willing to give him a 3yr to full MLE deal instead of worrying about maxing him out the following season.


They could have renounced players at the time to beat the Utah offer but they chose not to.


Booz then told them "Hate the Game not the Player.

He shook hands with the GM and owner, basically agreeing to a deal, and then went back on his word.

[Edited by - sebstar on 11-25-2008 11:32 AM]


Why do you really think he was allowed out of his deal?


Because the Cavs wanted to be true gentlemen?


Do you honestly think the Cavs didn't have dibs on where his true market value was?


Notice they weren't willing to renounce any other players to match his contract from Utah. Why?


They proposed 2 options to him


Decline picking up his option so he could sign a 3-6yr(?) maximum contract for a 2yr player on a rookie deal


or


Pick up his option promising to Max him out the following yr



The Cavs were looking to save money in the long run while working illegal prearranged deals.



They really wanted him to take the latter option playing the cards he wouldn't play himself into a max deal, but saw the benefits of letting him out.



They knew they had money to offer him the following yr plus they'd have his bird's rights.



They knew they didn't have room to give him anymore salary other than the available cap they had at the time which was $6-7mil



They knew if they let him out of the contract there was always the risk he could hit the open market to have his set.



So they wanted him to agree to the questionable deal.



Booz beat them at their own game.



Why is ok for a Franchise to Low Ball their own player, whereas the player is a scumbag when they go after Top dollar?



[Edited by - GallOfFame on 11-25-2008 1:16 PM]
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11/25/2008  3:30 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I'd rather sign Paul Milsap(sp?) before I sign Carlos Boozer....If I was Utah, I'd look to trade Boozer asap to Miami for Marion some kinda way. Milsap is better than Boozer IMHO.

So are you saying that Donnie Walsh is actively targeting Milsap at this point? I did not know that. That's awesome.
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11/25/2008  3:37 PM
Word on the street is that if the Jazz were to ever make Deron Williams available, the Knicks would inquire about him too.
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11/25/2008  3:49 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Word on the street is that if the Jazz were to ever make Deron Williams available, the Knicks would inquire about him too.

I can't beleive that we are getting Boozer, Milsap and Williams. Donnie is the man!!!!!!!!
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11/25/2008  4:11 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Allanfan20:

Word on the street is that if the Jazz were to ever make Deron Williams available, the Knicks would inquire about him too.

I can't beleive that we are getting Boozer, Milsap and Williams. Donnie is the man!!!!!!!!

That would suck! We'd have no cap space for Lebron.
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11/25/2008  4:23 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by EnySpree:

I'd rather sign Paul Milsap(sp?) before I sign Carlos Boozer....If I was Utah, I'd look to trade Boozer asap to Miami for Marion some kinda way. Milsap is better than Boozer IMHO.

So are you saying that Donnie Walsh is actively targeting Milsap at this point? I did not know that. That's awesome.

I didn't say anything about Donnie......

I'm just speaking on Utah. I think Boozer is a bum and not even better than Milsap. Again if I was running utah I would trade boozer and harpring to Miami for Marion. Miami wants Boozer anyway and Utah won't even miss him. That euro rookie is ready to back-up milsap and okur. They won't miss a beat.
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11/25/2008  4:30 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by EnySpree:

I'd rather sign Paul Milsap(sp?) before I sign Carlos Boozer....If I was Utah, I'd look to trade Boozer asap to Miami for Marion some kinda way. Milsap is better than Boozer IMHO.

So are you saying that Donnie Walsh is actively targeting Milsap at this point? I did not know that. That's awesome.

I didn't say anything about Donnie......

I'm just speaking on Utah. I think Boozer is a bum and not even better than Milsap. Again if I was running utah I would trade boozer and harpring to Miami for Marion. Miami wants Boozer anyway and Utah won't even miss him. That euro rookie is ready to back-up milsap and okur. They won't miss a beat.

Wait a second donnie is targeting Milsap and marion. Boo-ya!!!!!!!!!!
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11/25/2008  4:55 PM
Boozer is much better than Randolph. He can play PF and center, he shoots over 50%, he rebounds just as well, and his defense, while not great, is better than Randolph's as well.

I don't know which Boozer you guys have been watching. If the Cavs hadn't tried to give him 1/3 his market value, LeBron would have his wingman, and they'd probably be a serious contender or have a title already.

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11/25/2008  5:33 PM
Posted by oohah:

Boozer is much better than Randolph. He can play PF and center, he shoots over 50%, he rebounds just as well, and his defense, while not great, is better than Randolph's as well.

I don't know which Boozer you guys have been watching. If the Cavs hadn't tried to give him 1/3 his market value, LeBron would have his wingman, and they'd probably be a serious contender or have a title already.

oohah

Boozer is marginally better than Zach.....Boozer is slightly different than Zach anyway. For instance Zach can knock down threes. Don't say boozer can play center either cuz why would anyone purposely use him at center unless the absolutley had to.....like in Zachs case on the Knicks.

Anyway.....Milsap needs to start in Utah asap.....the guy is a 20/10 dude himself in my opinion. If Utah was smart they would trade Boozer and get them a real option at small fwd or shooting guard. Marion fits at the 3 for them for a season. Its good business to do this....saves money and improves the team.
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11/25/2008  5:57 PM
Posted by oohah:

Boozer is much better than Randolph. He can play PF and center, he shoots over 50%, he rebounds just as well, and his defense, while not great, is better than Randolph's as well.

I don't know which Boozer you guys have been watching. If the Cavs hadn't tried to give him 1/3 his market value, LeBron would have his wingman, and they'd probably be a serious contender or have a title already.

oohah



Yep which is why they didn't renounce/trade more players to get far enough under the cap to retain him.


He gave them to option to match Utah's offer.


Which shows they were only interested in lowballing him or let's say getting him to play for basically a hometown discount.
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