Posted by Knicksfan:

Anyone who says we need Jerome James is either kidding or simply out of their minds. We haven't needed him since he arrived. He just took advantage of stupid Isiah and his timely playing on the playoffs for the Sonics. He just showed he could play and jumped on the first offer avaliable and unfortunately for us it was Isiah's. Ahh, I can't wait for him to be out of the Knicks.

And if this comments are real, then lets see: we need a shot-blocker. James could help if he actually cared for playing basketball, but he only cares for being the first in line at McDonalds, so don't bother worrying. And as for the center, we need one that can play in D'Antoni's system. Its obvious he can't.

Posted by Hoopsmeister:

First of all in this system there is no real center there is just forward's and guard's, that's why Lee and Zach have been our centers, not because Curry is not ready or James is not playing, because james is healthy to play but they don't want him, just like they don't want Marbs or Curry.
There is also rumblings of interest in Curry by the Spurs and the Heat.

CURRY COOKING: Eddy Curry met briefly with his agent, Leon Rose, before last night's game. Curry has been sidelined since the second game of the season with a bruised right knee. He is expected to be out another two weeks.
D'Antoni had removed Curry from the rotation before the Knick season opener.
There is interest in the center from the Spurs and Heat. Miami may be willing to trade D'Antoni favorite Shawn Marion, but a potential deal with Curry is complicated because their salaries don't match.

Now if this trade is gonna happen then I say include Rose's expiring contract to get Marion, plus Marion's contract ends this season, then we pick up Ewing Jr, and we got a nice team. I know your saying what happens to Lee, Chandler, and Zach or even Jefferies?.
Look at it this way, we will have a stacked team, if we have any injuries we don't miss a beat, Mike D will figure out who to play and who to sit.
If we get rid of Curry's contract then that is worth picking up Marion for a season, it gives us more tradeable assets and clears up some cap room for 2010.
It's better than taking on Wallace or Harrington.

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by Bippity10:

No way we can let Jerome go. We NEED A CENTER!!!!!!!!

And he qualifies how? Because of his size and shape? Saying he is a center implies he is a basketball player. I say to you, NO, he is not a center.

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You're crazy. What If Zach gets hurt. Then who is going to play center????? I didn't think you had an answer to that one. Injuries are inevitable and we need him on our bench. Anyone that does not agree with me will be eating their words

I'm crazy? Well, then, you're insane. I mean, Shaq couldn't even figure out how to properly play in MDA's offense. You think Jerome James, who will either (1) foul out in 15 minutes o (2) pull a hamstring before he fouls out will make a difference? He's just going to karate chop and take up space, especially on the offensive end. You think anyone on offense will be able to drive with his wide girth taking up space? Or how about the fact he'll get called for two or three fouls right whenever he comes into the game, putting the Knicks over the limit, and this defensively challenged unity will then put the other team to the line, getting even easier points?

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Hoopsmeister:

First of all in this system there is no real center there is just forward's and guard's, that's why Lee and Zach have been our centers, not because Curry is not ready or James is not playing, because james is healthy to play but they don't want him, just like they don't want Marbs or Curry.
There is also rumblings of interest in Curry by the Spurs and the Heat.

CURRY COOKING: Eddy Curry met briefly with his agent, Leon Rose, before last night's game. Curry has been sidelined since the second game of the season with a bruised right knee. He is expected to be out another two weeks.
D'Antoni had removed Curry from the rotation before the Knick season opener.
There is interest in the center from the Spurs and Heat. Miami may be willing to trade D'Antoni favorite Shawn Marion, but a potential deal with Curry is complicated because their salaries don't match.

Now if this trade is gonna happen then I say include Rose's expiring contract to get Marion, plus Marion's contract ends this season, then we pick up Ewing Jr, and we got a nice team. I know your saying what happens to Lee, Chandler, and Zach or even Jefferies?.
Look at it this way, we will have a stacked team, if we have any injuries we don't miss a beat, Mike D will figure out who to play and who to sit.
If we get rid of Curry's contract then that is worth picking up Marion for a season, it gives us more tradeable assets and clears up some cap room for 2010.
It's better than taking on Wallace or Harrington.

Your argument is flawed because Zach is slow too. So why would he be better at center than Jerome? Every team needs a center, that is why he was signed. And now we have one. I will go nuts if this team cuts Jerome

did you just ask why Zach is better than Jerome? Automatic Ban lol

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by SupremeCommander:

Posted by Bippity10:

No way we can let Jerome go. We NEED A CENTER!!!!!!!!

And he qualifies how? Because of his size and shape? Saying he is a center implies he is a basketball player. I say to you, NO, he is not a center.

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You're crazy. What If Zach gets hurt. Then who is going to play center????? I didn't think you had an answer to that one. Injuries are inevitable and we need him on our bench. Anyone that does not agree with me will be eating their words

I'm crazy? Well, then, you're insane. I mean, Shaq couldn't even figure out how to properly play in MDA's offense. You think Jerome James, who will either (1) foul out in 15 minutes o (2) pull a hamstring before he fouls out will make a difference? He's just going to karate chop and take up space, especially on the offensive end. You think anyone on offense will be able to drive with his wide girth taking up space? Or how about the fact he'll get called for two or three fouls right whenever he comes into the game, putting the Knicks over the limit, and this defensively challenged unity will then put the other team to the line, getting even easier points?

I'm insane, well you are cracked in the head. This is a ridiculous argument. Shaq is washed up and should not even be put in the same sentence with Jerome. Nice try though!

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Anyone who says we need Jerome James is either kidding or simply out of their minds. We haven't needed him since he arrived. He just took advantage of stupid Isiah and his timely playing on the playoffs for the Sonics. He just showed he could play and jumped on the first offer avaliable and unfortunately for us it was Isiah's. Ahh, I can't wait for him to be out of the Knicks.

And if this comments are real, then lets see: we need a shot-blocker. James could help if he actually cared for playing basketball, but he only cares for being the first in line at McDonalds, so don't bother worrying. And as for the center, we need one that can play in D'Antoni's system. Its obvious he can't.

Oh he we go. As soon as someone realizes that I am right about Jerome they bring out the personal insults.......So you are saying I am out of my mind because I understand how important it is to have Jerome. You never answered the question, what do we do if Zach gets hurt? What if we do if Jared is still hurt. Where are we then? We are in the same place we were before Isiah went out and made the signing. A team without a center. Every team needs a center, and we have one. I just hope the man gets healthy soon because Zach's knee could go out any minute. Although if this happened my guess is that Jerome would probably ask to come back early from his injury just so he can help the team.

Nop, Im not that kind of poster that uses personal insults, I give my opinion in general. If you feel attacked thats another thing, but I wouldn't t do that intentionally. By the way, your reasoning is right, problem is the player included in it makes it illogical.

Every team needs a center, or two. That's a most and so far we've lacked a real one. But two questions arise when you consider that: do we need a conventional center in this system? and if so, is Jerome James the answer? The first one is debatable since D'Antoni usually plays smaller, fast lineups that can play the system. Also, he likes to have guys on the court that have long range (Zack at C has shot many threes, as will Jeffries when he gets back) and that can run constantly. That doesn't say Jerome James at all, but we do need shotblocking. He could bring that, but here is the thing. We've needed shotblocking since Camby, and James has been able to provide that, but he is always injured and even when healthy he just doesn't care to play again. He just cares for earning money and that's all. If he wanted to play I would say you are right, but he doesn't so forget about it.

About injuries: What if Zack is injured? You play Jeffries. What if Jeffries is still injured? You play Eddy. What if the three are injured and James is still on the team? You start D-Lee. What if Lee is out? Well, you can go small (Duhon, Nate, Craw, Q-Rich, Chandler) or ask him if he can bother earning for once his paycheck.

In the end, you are right that we need a center and a defensive presence in the middle along with a low post option on offense, but James is nothing but a contract we are desperate somebody takes off our hands.

Posted by TMS:

ROFL Bip... u 1 crazy mofo.

Legit 7 footers don't grow on trees u clueless dimwits!!!