Posted by VDesai:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

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Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

I recall JJ Reddick back problems.

I recall when EO had serious back issues during the championship season in 2004. The thing is both Reddick and Ok4 played through them---Gallinari seems like he cannot despite being off from action for a long time. It's good that he is young and should heal OK but at this point he should be headed to the best back doctor in America for second or third opinions.

BRIGGS- think about it, what is the payoff of playing through them? Those guys were veteran college players playing for national championships and playing for their draft status. They HAD to play. Gallo is a young guy adjusting to a new league on a team that has a lot of options ahead of him and is still sorting out its identity. He doesn't contribute much by being on the floor right now so what is the payoff in him trying to play through an injury? He can't help us win and he can only hurt himself more.

I don't really see why this is such an overwrought issue. Let him rest and get himself in a better position to play.

I think Briggs' point and he can correct me on this is that serious back issues don't normally go away. I think the main concern is that the pain hasn't really went away after a significant time. I would hope that he contemplates surgery and is getting 2nd, 3rd and even 4th opinions. I wouldn't even talk to the Knick medical staff without a specialist present if I was him.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by VDesai:

You ignore the most pertinent question. What is the payoff of having him play right now? Let him get more comfortable with the NBA game while resting his injury. Its a completely unnecessary risk to play him right now.

? How to you get more comfortable with the NBA from the sitting position? And why does our Euro league star need to be pssy footed? He would play but he physically cant.

So you'd rather have a player suck out there and risk himself getting a more serious injury rather than resting him a month and using when he's ready? The guy is 20 years old and its still early in the season. He'll get his chance. Impatience above logic is not an admirable trait.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

I recall JJ Reddick back problems.

I recall when EO had serious back issues during the championship season in 2004. The thing is both Reddick and Ok4 played through them---Gallinari seems like he cannot despite being off from action for a long time. It's good that he is young and should heal OK but at this point he should be headed to the best back doctor in America for second or third opinions.

BRIGGS- think about it, what is the payoff of playing through them? Those guys were veteran college players playing for national championships and playing for their draft status. They HAD to play. Gallo is a young guy adjusting to a new league on a team that has a lot of options ahead of him and is still sorting out its identity. He doesn't contribute much by being on the floor right now so what is the payoff in him trying to play through an injury? He can't help us win and he can only hurt himself more.

I don't really see why this is such an overwrought issue. Let him rest and get himself in a better position to play.

I think Briggs' point and he can correct me on this is that serious back issues don't normally go away. I think the main concern is that the pain hasn't really went away after a significant time. I would hope that he contemplates surgery and is getting 2nd, 3rd and even 4th opinions. I wouldn't even talk to the Knick medical staff without a specialist present if I was him.

My point is he's had this for 6 months and unlike Reddick and Ok4 about the same age--who were able to overcome their injuries within reasonable amounts of time and get back into the game--Gallo has not. Saying that Gallo needs time to get comofrtable with the nBA game is sugar coatinga nd making up lame excuses. The guy cant play because his back is having bad problems over a long period of time. He needs to make sure he finds a doctor who says we can fix this--this is what has to be done. He has not done that because 6 months later he still cannot play pain free.

Get him to Doctor Sarno. I'll be patient with him (what is the other choice?) and hope for the best. It sucks for sure, but what can we do? I got my back taken care of after years, it really wasn't until I read Sarno's book that I saw a painful back is more than just physical.

What sucks is the guy has so much talent and we can't even get to see any of it. Then when he is good enough to play he will be out of shape or still a bit sore. Definitely we have a curse with drafting.

Come on Gallol...

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TESTS SET FOR AILING GALLINARI

Rookie Danilo Gallinari did not travel with the Knicks on their two-game road trip, staying behind to have a battery of tests on his back to rule out possible surgery, according to a team source.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11112008/sports/knicks/tests_set_for_ailing_gallinari_138165.htm

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by VDesai:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by BlueSeats:

I'm shocked...

But seriously, Occam's razor practically assured us this was the reason he wasn't playing.

Give it a rest on the Gallo watch guys, if he gets some burn after the all-star break you can consider it a blessing.

I never heard of anyone so young having these types of back issues that have literally lingered for 6 months---anyone else no 1 player in the NBA who has been hurt like this at 20 years old [as in back injury] I cant think of one in terms of what he has--I can think of knee injuries at a young age but I cant remember back issues with someone this age.

I recall JJ Reddick back problems.

I recall when EO had serious back issues during the championship season in 2004. The thing is both Reddick and Ok4 played through them---Gallinari seems like he cannot despite being off from action for a long time. It's good that he is young and should heal OK but at this point he should be headed to the best back doctor in America for second or third opinions.

BRIGGS- think about it, what is the payoff of playing through them? Those guys were veteran college players playing for national championships and playing for their draft status. They HAD to play. Gallo is a young guy adjusting to a new league on a team that has a lot of options ahead of him and is still sorting out its identity. He doesn't contribute much by being on the floor right now so what is the payoff in him trying to play through an injury? He can't help us win and he can only hurt himself more.

I don't really see why this is such an overwrought issue. Let him rest and get himself in a better position to play.

I think Briggs' point and he can correct me on this is that serious back issues don't normally go away. I think the main concern is that the pain hasn't really went away after a significant time. I would hope that he contemplates surgery and is getting 2nd, 3rd and even 4th opinions. I wouldn't even talk to the Knick medical staff without a specialist present if I was him.

My point is he's had this for 6 months and unlike Reddick and Ok4 about the same age--who were able to overcome their injuries within reasonable amounts of time and get back into the game--Gallo has not. Saying that Gallo needs time to get comofrtable with the nBA game is sugar coatinga nd making up lame excuses. The guy cant play because his back is having bad problems over a long period of time. He needs to make sure he finds a doctor who says we can fix this--this is what has to be done. He has not done that because 6 months later he still cannot play pain free.

Don't be so impatient. Give him another couple of years and I'm sure his back will be healed.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Danilo Gallinari, the first-round draft pick whom Mike D’Antoni chose not to play in the last four games, is doubtful against San Antonio with a sore lower back. It is the same injury that caused Gallinari to miss the preseason. “His back is hurting a little bit again,” D’Antoni said Monday. “He was trying to push himself and get ready, but he had a little bit of a setback.”... Mardy Collins (upper respiratory infection) and David Lee (sore left ankle) were probable.

From NY Times today

By the way some insight into Lee production lately:
"and David Lee (sore left ankle) were probable."

It's not an excuse but more of an explanation.



[Edited by - arkrud on 11-11-2008 10:19 AM]

wow... not good.. Ihope it is just a MINOR setback, and that is all..

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Danilo Gallinari, the first-round draft pick whom Mike D’Antoni chose not to play in the last four games, is doubtful against San Antonio with a sore lower back. It is the same injury that caused Gallinari to miss the preseason. “His back is hurting a little bit again,” D’Antoni said Monday. “He was trying to push himself and get ready, but he had a little bit of a setback.”... Mardy Collins (upper respiratory infection) and David Lee (sore left ankle) were probable.

From NY Times today

By the way some insight into Lee production lately:
"and David Lee (sore left ankle) were probable."

It's not an excuse but more of an explanation.



[Edited by - arkrud on 11-11-2008 10:19 AM]

He looked like he couldn't elevate.