I'll believe this trade when it actually happens. Getting hyped over a rumor is a waste of energy.

things been slow, so why not stretch the rumor

Crush,

Nice point, I always felt the team was a deal away from finishing one that it started.

You reference the unfinished front line of Rice-Mutumbo-Baker, which in its prime would have been incredible. Bad Feet, Old age, and binging booze would have been a grand farce even greater than our current mess.

Thank the stars for that one.

But yes, It seems Laydog can't finish the goal on those trades. Lets hope it does not happen again.

Completely opposite--denver was BAD with Mcdyess LafrentsVoshon leonard Mcdyess Kevin Willis all in pure prime

Van exel is not the typeof player we want. he is 32 porous def a chucker who shoots 40%

hes not even a top 12 PG in the league. He had a great playoffs and was in his prime position for him a 6th man--thats where I see him thriving.Option 3-4 when on the court. If he comes tothe Knicks you will see plenty of 5-17 games.Im telling you its not worth it,and as much as I wouldliketo let wardwalk,in this case id rather go with the ward eisley backcourt and keep Thomas for other things:>)

IF we trade Thomas ward and a pick for NVE that sour team for 2-3 years no flexibilty no picks nothing.

Learn from the Spurs--its nice to have flexibilty:>) and stay away from guys like NVE.

Listen to Jim Duqutte ofthe Mets. they are taking some lumps but they are doing so for the development and building a team that will be contenders for years instead of one year wonders and back under 500for 5-6 years.

If it does happen, The trade would certainly benefit the Knicks. Nick is knowned to be a scoring PG with, probably the best ballhandling skills in the N.B>A. He's a tough, gritty son of a bitch!!

Before he came to Dallas @ the end of the 2002 season, he was averaging 21 pts and 8 assists for Denver. I can't recalled the last pg to do that for the knickerbockers.If there was one, it sure was a very long time ago. Most of you felt, Knicks traded away the emotional leader. Well wait til Nick get here( If thats the case). He's an emotional leader himself who doesn't back-down for nothing!

NVE is a clutch player who escalates during crunch time. Regarding Kurt Thomas, he is not a center. He did avg 14pts and 8.9reb last yr but guaranteed you he won't have those #'s out west.

Also, understand that, last season when the knicks battled the elite PF out west, it was Othella H./Weatherspoon who defended them,not Kurt.

All of you need to know, Kurt is very-foul proned and playing out west vs the elite big men would only cause him major probelms. I'd do the trade in a heartbeat!!!

NVE would bring back the rough edge that IMO we lost when Spree was traded. I would trade KT & Ward for him. It improves our PG spot and we have Sweetney and Lampe to step up in the frontline. We drafted them, so we might as well use them and let them get the burn they need to get a good rythm.

If we get NVE, then Eisley can be dealt too, packaged with Othella and/or weatherspoon for a Big4/5 player (in a perfect world). We can't go into the season with a logjam like we do now, so at least more deal really should be made before the season starts after the NVE deal.

Sorry old fan... you can argue the Knicks shouldn't trade for someone Nick Van Exel's age... you can argue, who's going to take KT's place but, you cannot say the man is "an average starting point". There is nothing "average" about NVE.

[Edited by - PIKE on 09/17/2003 13:10:33]

lol - And that goes double for this board! However, I believe that Houston could use a point who knows how to (every so often) explode for points...especially during the last 4 minutes of a close game, where Allan just got tired of scoring for everybody. Nick can do that, and Milos is still playing in europe...

We picked Vranes because as a team we lacked height, so we took the tallest guy in draft.

C'mon now,Vranes is a project for the future.If we can develop some skillz into this guy.He can become our center and our second steal of the draft.