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nyk4ever
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11/3/2008  11:57 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

the first expiring year deal of the year and it's result is billups + dice...

DJ would would you trade Marbury for Marion?

Of course with the idea you have to resign him.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-03-2008 11:57 AM]
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11/3/2008  11:58 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

the first expiring year deal of the year and it's result is billups + dice...

DJ would would you trade Marbury for Marion?

i would - but nobody else would, marbury is about to be bought out. you can get him for $1 mil prorated.
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11/3/2008  11:58 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

the first expiring year deal of the year and it's result is billups + dice...

Yes, but AI is a legitimate max player. Marbury is not. Marbury nets you crap. AI nets you good players. Meaning, Marbury is just an expiring contract. AI is a legit player, who also has the added benefit of being an expiring.
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11/3/2008  11:59 AM
Dumars setting up himself for 2010 very nicely. Wait I only thought the Knicks knew about 2010.
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11/3/2008  11:59 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by djsunyc:

the first expiring year deal of the year and it's result is billups + dice...

DJ would would you trade Marbury for Marion?

i would - but nobody else would, marbury is about to be bought out. you can get him for $1 mil prorated.

Yeah. I wonder if the Heat would do it so they don't have to worry about anyone else signing Marbury? Marion has played poorly for them and I'm not sure if they can get another expiring to matchup with Marions deal from another team.
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11/3/2008  12:01 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Dumars setting up himself for 2010 very nicely. Wait I only thought the Knicks knew about 2010.

Wait a second Phar. You have said a few times that no one would want to come to a bare Knicks cupboard. What makes the Detroit situation better? Sheed, AI, Hamilton are all going to be gone by the time 2010 rolls around.
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11/3/2008  12:11 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Dumars setting up himself for 2010 very nicely. Wait I only thought the Knicks knew about 2010.

Wait a second Phar. You have said a few times that no one would want to come to a bare Knicks cupboard. What makes the Detroit situation better? Sheed, AI, Hamilton are all going to be gone by the time 2010 rolls around.

Dumars will be the selling factor for a team like Detroit. I will constantly say that is what you will miss with Thomas gone is that factor. Not getting Ewing in here was a huge mistake. Players like working with and for former NBA players. It isn't hard to figure. Also let's not forget that the Pistons have a better foundation for their young core. Prince, Stuckey, Maxiell and Johnson could match up with anything the Knicks would have to offer as a young core. Dumars has a better track record than Walsh as well.
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11/3/2008  12:14 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Dumars setting up himself for 2010 very nicely. Wait I only thought the Knicks knew about 2010.

Wait a second Phar. You have said a few times that no one would want to come to a bare Knicks cupboard. What makes the Detroit situation better? Sheed, AI, Hamilton are all going to be gone by the time 2010 rolls around.

Dumars will be the selling factor for a team like Detroit. I will constantly say that is what you will miss with Thomas gone is that factor. Not getting Ewing in here was a huge mistake. Players like working with and for former NBA players. It isn't hard to figure. Also let's not forget that the Pistons have a better foundation for their young core. Prince, Stuckey, Maxiell and Johnson could match up with anything the Knicks would have to offer as a young core. Dumars has a better track record than Walsh as well.

I'm not going to disagree with anything you said, but I would have to say that all of it is arguable. What have Stuckey, Maxiell and Johnson achieved that Lee, Chandler and Nate haven't? MDA is a strong selling point as well.
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11/3/2008  12:17 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Dumars setting up himself for 2010 very nicely. Wait I only thought the Knicks knew about 2010.

Wait a second Phar. You have said a few times that no one would want to come to a bare Knicks cupboard. What makes the Detroit situation better? Sheed, AI, Hamilton are all going to be gone by the time 2010 rolls around.

Dumars will be the selling factor for a team like Detroit. I will constantly say that is what you will miss with Thomas gone is that factor. Not getting Ewing in here was a huge mistake. Players like working with and for former NBA players. It isn't hard to figure. Also let's not forget that the Pistons have a better foundation for their young core. Prince, Stuckey, Maxiell and Johnson could match up with anything the Knicks would have to offer as a young core. Dumars has a better track record than Walsh as well.

I'm not going to disagree with anything you said, but I would have to say that all of it is arguable. What have Stuckey, Maxiell and Johnson achieved that Lee, Chandler and Nate haven't? MDA is a strong selling point as well.

Hey I already mentioned that Mr. Pringles is the selling point here not Walsh. I think what's going with Marbs is raising eyebrows around the league as well. Those players on the Pistons played solid minutes on a team that went to the Eastern Conference Finals. You can't ever put those three on the Knicks in the category until they get that type of experience. Right now they look like possible talented players on a bad team.
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11/3/2008  12:18 PM
i think it is a rare time when both teams did well with this trade. it is a shame that ai has become trade bait since last year. never thought i would see him in another uniform since philly and now it is possible he might play for four different teams in four years!
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11/3/2008  12:20 PM
dumars still trying to recover from drafting darko 2nd overall...
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11/3/2008  12:23 PM
Detroit freeing up cash so they can sign David Lee at 12M a year.
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11/3/2008  12:30 PM
Didnt I say Dumars will come out of nowhere and make a trade that gets him back in the Finals? ****ing guy!!!!!

I think Iverson is way better than Chancey....Iverson should fit right in....maybe this is why Iverson has been playing "point" for Denver this year...he's been looking to pass more. Is this gonna be a Tiny Archibald repeat? will iverson switch up his focus to get himself a ring?
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11/3/2008  12:33 PM
it's being reported that denver will waive dice (and he will re-sign with detroit after 30 days) and will be getting cheik samb from detroit as payment.
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11/3/2008  12:37 PM
so at the end of the day, denver traded andre miller + 2 #1 picks for chauncy billups...
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11/3/2008  12:46 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

so at the end of the day, denver traded andre miller + 2 #1 picks for chauncy billups...

Wow, when you look at it that way, it's not so impressive! Were those Denver's own picks or from another team? (I'm trying to figure out how late/early in the 1st round they are)

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-03-2008 12:46 PM]
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11/3/2008  12:59 PM
i would - but nobody else would, marbury is about to be bought out. you can get him for $1 mil prorated.


Where is this, I haven't seen it. Guess you're putting alot of stock into what Berman writes. Maybe Walsh wants to talk to Marbury to tell him to get a friggin agent so that they can 'maybe' get him somewhere where he will play basketball. I wouldn't repeat rumors and hearsay as fact.
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11/3/2008  4:31 PM
Can you imagine if they didnt let Camby go for nothing???????? They might actually have a legit chance to contend right now!!!

Camby
KMart
Mello
JR Smith(whos killin lately)
Billups

thats a very very solid and ballenced team
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11/3/2008  4:49 PM
Sweetness.

I can't wait for AI and Sheed to talk about practice.
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11/3/2008  4:53 PM
This is a great trade for both teams especially Det. Now all Pistons need is a trade for Zach Randolph and voila they have a celtics-like big three of AI, Zach and Sheed. Those are nasty apples.
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