Posted by earthmansurfer:

Posted by BRIGGS:

This is the same Eddy Curry who averaged 20-7 two years ago who was unstoppable at many times--who looked like a burgeoning star

This is the guy who put up 43-14 on Milwaukee on 17-20 shooting that year


This is not Dan Gadzuric Jake Voshkul or any other 7 footer stiff. This is a player capable of 30-10 games.

He was hurt with a knee this offseason and did not come back in good shape. He needs to concentrate on fitness. At 24-25 years old--if you work with a trainer--fitness and weight loss is pretty easy.

I see the same people who wanted to release Zach Randolph or trade him with our lottery pick for a cheeseburger just to get rid of him and he's fit in quite well here.

Someone said Etan Thomas--Etan plays hard but hes an 8=6 guy as are most 7 footers and Etan is 6-9. EC in the right situation with the right staff could be riught back to his 20-7 57% form. In the right system--lets say a Dallas or a Washington Eddy can be a force again especially on the offense. What EC the Knicks have to do is get him back in the shape that gives us the best value to swap him OR use him ----npth the Knicks and EC have failed at this but its easily rectifiable.

Now Im not trading EC for .25 on the buck. To many people dont understand you dont sell at a low--the kid is 25 and just off a 20-7 season barely a year ago. Bringing in Zach stunted his growthg as a player and he hasnt taken it well. He needs to go some place else but not for the stooges asking for nothing in return. We need something of very reasonable value.

Ok, when you put it like that ;)

True, Eddy was a burgeoning all star recently. As long as they can look past his defensive ineptitude there may be a chance. In all fairness, if we were not running now, I wouldn't mind seeing Eddy man the middle for one last shot (just not with Zach, it doesn't work). Maybe there is something to your idea...

EMS

Yes - some sanity. Let's get Eddie into shape and then trade him for a good package.

I could go around the league and name 20 teams who could use a C. All it takes is one good trainer 3-4 weeks to get him in great shape at his age. If I am an NBA team and I can get this guy for a significant discount and I have a really good PF I would try to do it. It's not going to work here--thats just the way things are but how could any good GM who has a shot blocking 4 not look at this guy? Think about it.

Posted by Elite:

Posted by BRIGGS:

I could go around the league and name 20 teams who could use a C. All it takes is one good trainer 3-4 weeks to get him in great shape at his age. If I am an NBA team and I can get this guy for a significant discount and I have a really good PF I would try to do it. It's not going to work here--thats just the way things are but how could any good GM who has a shot blocking 4 not look at this guy? Think about it.

Problem is, if all it took was a good trainer 3-4 weeks to get Eddy Curry into shape.. He'd be in shape by now. He doesnt want to, he obviously eats horribly. He doesnt care. Everyone knows hes lazy, nobody wants him

Bingo. It's naive to think that all you have to do is change environmental circumstances (who's helping Eddy, who's his coach) and Eddy will get in shape and play well. The problem is first and foremost from within for Eddy and that's not gonna change if he moves to a new city for another team.

Good points, but perhaps this answer is a bit mixed. Is it possible that he is just going to carry around weight cause it is a bit his build? I think he is a bit on the lazy side, but I'm trying to remember if any teamates have slipped word of of his "lazy" nature. This is a team game and I don't think they are all heartless. I can't imagine being on a team and having a teamate like that if it is true. Go public, all ways. Your getting millions to win, let's see if you are just collecting checks from hard working fans. They did speak about Marbury a bit (rumors I guess). I mean is he just a big lazy but uber athletic player who looks like he sometimes plays with no heart? (Poll says 90% yes, right?) I hope he is really more than that, but I guess we don't have much more time to find out. Let's see what happens in the next few weeks cause his value can only go up from here (Knock on wood.). You never know how winning can change your attitude. We were doing quite well that year he was playing well, and if Jamal didn't go down we were probably in the playoffs. (And Chicago got that pick I believe..., who did we get?)

I'm not up on the whole NBA, so who are the teams with good, strong and defensively apt PF's? Clearly he needs someone to help defend, or rather to do the majority of defending. (He did make some grunts and give directions last preseason game )

EMS

look, Curry is a slacker

Curry was told/asked to prepare to run, run and run some more.

Ask Tim Grover who said it's not about what Curry can do, it's about his motivation to actually do more then the bare necessity.

There is indeed the possibility of adding weight and conditioning clauses but these are not standard and well, Zeke didn't think of it.

nope, look it up

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

you have clauses, general CBA clauses (ask Monta Ellis) and additional optional clauses

weight and advanced conditioning clauses are not the norm, maybe should be

Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

nope, look it up

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

you have clauses, general CBA clauses (ask Monta Ellis) and additional optional clauses

weight and advanced conditioning clauses are not the norm, maybe should be

Well if I could shed my 10 bucks in here--this is what I would do with Curry

put him on the suspended list and add a trainer and a nutritionist just for him. Ask him to comply for 6 weeks to get himself acclimated for this style of play. Bring him back 6-8 weeks later and prior to the trade deadline--20 pounds lighter and let him earn a role in practice--he will. An Eddy Curry 20 pounds lighter who can show some 20-7 with half of his contract gone this year will be attractive at the deadline

To trade Curry, we have to get a two for one trade. We need to divide our next two biggest contracts in half (Zach) if we are to be able to move these newer or older players, when it comes to crunch time for after 2009-10 and the big prize. We have time. Walsh has already indicated that he's is waiting for the right moves to come along.

He has the two best excuses in the world. Bad heart, too fat.

Must be nice to get a check for sitting.