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10/30/2008  3:43 PM
that behind the back move showed so much, it was so simple and did nothing but.. its huge in telling his comfort level with his handle and the kinds of moves this kid is capable of at his size is astounding
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10/30/2008  4:11 PM
Posted by Elite:

that behind the back move showed so much, it was so simple and did nothing but.. its huge in telling his comfort level with his handle and the kinds of moves this kid is capable of at his size is astounding
JJ has that. Its Globe Trotters 101
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10/30/2008  4:12 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by earthmansurfer:
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Extremely impressive. Compared to that Greg Oden put in a Bill Russell like performance in his debut. Have it come to this giving props to a man guarding a poor guy coming off one of the worst knee injuries ever witness on live television. Low expectations.

I need to take your post in perspective. Maybe others can chime in, of your 5000 plus posts, how many are optimistic or there abouts? Clearly you can't see the future from 3 minutes, but can others see the future from lots of previous game footage? Or maybe others can see a bit more of the future from interviews, preseason (ok, 1 game) and the previous lot?

We can see the future and it's Obama, I mean Gallo!

Seriously, kids got game, which side of the fence do you want to be sitting on? Even if you are right (Which would make you psychic, are you?) it's so much more fun seeing the light in things. Again, seriously, if you watch the kids game he has it.

Sorry didn't see it last nite. I hope that answers your question.

No, it doesn't. I didn't see last night either.
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10/30/2008  4:17 PM
Oh, I saw the game. I didn't see the future that Eny saw. As in sorry I didn't see it last nite. But it's ok, everyone has their favorites. Gallo is one of yours. So you get more touchy on the subject. I get more sensitive over Chandler, Nate and I am starting to get really touchy about the Lee criticism just to under pay him.
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10/30/2008  4:42 PM
He played 3 minutes. Come on, you can't judge a guy in 3 minutes. We already know he has skills so 2 missed shots and a behind the back dribble shouldn't really sway us either way at this point. He was definitely nervous last night, which is fine for a 19 year old in NYC. I think the kid has skills but it's going to take time to see what type of player he is. I think there are going to be nights where his potential shines and there will be nights where he looks horrendous. He's tough to judge at this point.
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10/30/2008  5:13 PM
I'm not afraid to say that I saw the exact same things I saw in video of him that so many said wasn't valid and the exact same things I saw of him in the one game in summer league. The guy has talent and skills! The only question is his back. Other than that I'm happy with him as a pick. He's a rook, 20 yrs old, so obviously he's got a LOOOONG way to go. But I really like his skill set for this system.

He's got to learn to get in there for more rebounds but i'm hoping that he'll do that so that he can get the break started. One thing I like is that he was nervous but not scared to the point of being frozen, that's a good sign.
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10/30/2008  5:13 PM
I'm not afraid to say that I saw the exact same things I saw in video of him that so many said wasn't valid and the exact same things I saw of him in the one game in summer league. The guy has talent and skills! The only question is his back. Other than that I'm happy with him as a pick. He's a rook, 20 yrs old, so obviously he's got a LOOOONG way to go. But I really like his skill set for this system.

He's got to learn to get in there for more rebounds but i'm hoping that he'll do that so that he can get the break started. One thing I like is that he was nervous but not scared to the point of being frozen, that's a good sign.
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10/30/2008  5:28 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I'm not afraid to say that I saw the exact same things I saw in video of him that so many said wasn't valid and the exact same things I saw of him in the one game in summer league. The guy has talent and skills! The only question is his back. Other than that I'm happy with him as a pick. He's a rook, 20 yrs old, so obviously he's got a LOOOONG way to go. But I really like his skill set for this system.

He's got to learn to get in there for more rebounds but i'm hoping that he'll do that so that he can get the break started. One thing I like is that he was nervous but not scared to the point of being frozen, that's a good sign.

When are you not happy about a Knicks draft pick?
To be honest that second miss 3 pointer was a shocked to me. I been hearing that this guy never misses and he played in big games before in the EL. So that was hmm... moment. But he still has to get his feet wet so I will give him a break for now. But has he to show me more than blanks across the board. Balkman was able to fill a stat sheet with similar minutes.
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10/30/2008  5:31 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nixluva:

I'm not afraid to say that I saw the exact same things I saw in video of him that so many said wasn't valid and the exact same things I saw of him in the one game in summer league. The guy has talent and skills! The only question is his back. Other than that I'm happy with him as a pick. He's a rook, 20 yrs old, so obviously he's got a LOOOONG way to go. But I really like his skill set for this system.

He's got to learn to get in there for more rebounds but i'm hoping that he'll do that so that he can get the break started. One thing I like is that he was nervous but not scared to the point of being frozen, that's a good sign.

When are you not happy about a Knicks draft pick?
To be honest that second miss 3 pointer was a shocked to me. I been hearing that this guy never misses and he played in big games before in the EL. So that was hmm... moment. But he still has to get his feet wet so I will give him a break for now. But has he to show me more than blanks across the board. Balkman was able to fill a stat sheet with similar minutes.

You're kidding right??? You guys are funny. 3 minutes!!!
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10/30/2008  5:42 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

When are you not happy about a Knicks draft pick?

Overall our drafts haven't been that bad, so why shouldn't I like the guys we have? We've made some mistakes and missed some guys, but the guys we have are showing themselves to be improving NBA players that can do some things in this league.

With Gallo, I don't view him as an unknown. He's not super athletic, but he's athletic enough. He's highly skilled and he's got a great BB IQ. That's all a player needs IMO. His level of development mentally is very high. With some more practice time under his belt and some PT, he'll be just fine. He's also just what this team needs. Another shooter with size out there. In this system that's like gold.
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10/30/2008  6:15 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nixluva:

I'm not afraid to say that I saw the exact same things I saw in video of him that so many said wasn't valid and the exact same things I saw of him in the one game in summer league. The guy has talent and skills! The only question is his back. Other than that I'm happy with him as a pick. He's a rook, 20 yrs old, so obviously he's got a LOOOONG way to go. But I really like his skill set for this system.

He's got to learn to get in there for more rebounds but i'm hoping that he'll do that so that he can get the break started. One thing I like is that he was nervous but not scared to the point of being frozen, that's a good sign.

When are you not happy about a Knicks draft pick?
To be honest that second miss 3 pointer was a shocked to me. I been hearing that this guy never misses and he played in big games before in the EL. So that was hmm... moment. But he still has to get his feet wet so I will give him a break for now. But has he to show me more than blanks across the board. Balkman was able to fill a stat sheet with similar minutes.

You're kidding right??? You guys are funny. 3 minutes!!!


Balkman got 7 minutes and did this so if you are special you should easily be able to do half of what he did in 3 minutes.
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10/30/2008  6:17 PM
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10/30/2008  6:27 PM
It's tough to draw any conclusions in 3 mins of play in the first game of your career the Garden...That said, I'm with Fish...Reminds me of Keith Van Horn but a little more agile...Doesn't play big given his size...But he is young and has time...I'm not impressed tho...He has had professional experience and could have had a better showing...

Still very early...

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10/30/2008  6:39 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Elite:

that behind the back move showed so much, it was so simple and did nothing but.. its huge in telling his comfort level with his handle and the kinds of moves this kid is capable of at his size is astounding
JJ has that. Its Globe Trotters 101

I'm gonna give you a wet willy when I see you again fishy!

Seriously man.....the kid only played 3 minutes but when he got the ball and the guy reached that behind the back dribble came so quick and they he took that step forward and got fouled......

Yo in the D'antoni scheme of things Nate Knew to hit the corner and Gallo was gonna hit him with the pass but got fouled. Clyde said that it was "a rookie mistake" not to go up with the shot once he got fouled.....I don't sense that from this kid. If he was confortable and not trying to fit in as a teamate he would have blown straight to the basket for the and one.

I truly believe the kid is just trying to help build chemistry. He Knows the game and knows how teams work. He's new to the team but he won't be for long. I can see the future!!!!!
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10/30/2008  6:45 PM
Man you were pumped up because he came out a check a glimppy man. I don't want to hear it from you.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 10-30-2008 6:45 PM]
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10/30/2008  7:02 PM
Posted by holfresh:

It's tough to draw any conclusions in 3 mins of play in the first game of your career the Garden...That said, I'm with Fish...Reminds me of Keith Van Horn but a little more agile...Doesn't play big given his size...But he is young and has time...I'm not impressed tho...He has had professional experience and could have had a better showing...

Still very early...



Damn right he could've had a better showing. I blame D'Antoni for not getting this kid back in the game when we were up 20 in the second half. That was the problem right there. WTF was that all about? That was the perfect time to get him in there. No excuse for not getting him back in the game in the 2nd half when we were up big. Not much you can show anyone with 3 minutes of PT, I don't care who you are. Q actually having a good game for once didn't exactly help matters I guess. Hopefully he gets a longer run next game...



[Edited by - finestrg on 10-30-2008 7:03 PM]
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10/30/2008  7:11 PM
Posted by holfresh:

It's tough to draw any conclusions in 3 mins of play in the first game of your career the Garden...That said, I'm with Fish...Reminds me of Keith Van Horn but a little more agile...Doesn't play big given his size...But he is young and has time...I'm not impressed tho...He has had professional experience and could have had a better showing...

Still very early...


Is that bad???? The only problem people had with Keith Van Horn was his toughness. Other than that he gave you 20 and 8, 19 and 8, 17 and 8 in his prime. As long as Gallo wasn't a pansy I'd have no problem with that. Between him and Chandler that would mean we made 2 great choices. I'm dreaming of the guy becoming as productive as Van Horn
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10/30/2008  7:37 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by holfresh:

It's tough to draw any conclusions in 3 mins of play in the first game of your career the Garden...That said, I'm with Fish...Reminds me of Keith Van Horn but a little more agile...Doesn't play big given his size...But he is young and has time...I'm not impressed tho...He has had professional experience and could have had a better showing...

Still very early...


Is that bad???? The only problem people had with Keith Van Horn was his toughness. Other than that he gave you 20 and 8, 19 and 8, 17 and 8 in his prime. As long as Gallo wasn't a pansy I'd have no problem with that. Between him and Chandler that would mean we made 2 great choices. I'm dreaming of the guy becoming as productive as Van Horn

People tend to forget what KVH was at one point. If Gallo actually got those numbers people would be ecstatic!!! I actually think he's got more game than KVH tho. Gallo isn't a speedster but he's quicker than KVH was. He's got more handle and agility. He's trickier too. He's got all those faints and step backs. Once he gets comfortable I expect good things from him.

I really don't look at this 3 minute stint as any kind of evidence. Tho I saw much of the same kind of clues to how he thinks in this as I saw in video of the kid and that one game in Summer league. He's not a chucker. He'll play the team game and fit right in with what MDA is doing and that's a good thing.
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10/30/2008  11:37 PM
He might be the next Ryan Anderson or Don McLean.
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10/30/2008  11:47 PM
People tend to forget what KVH was at one point.

Van Horn was a huge part of the Nets run to the finals and came up big in a lot of games, especially against Boston.


I think talking about how he isn't tough is really B.S. He rebounded well and drove to the basket hard frequently finishing with jams in people's faces. He was just injury prone.

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