Naw...

It's $3.50 now.

There's also fake Gray's Papaya, Papaya Dog, which isn't as good, stealing their business. I was out late on Friday night and Gray's Papaya on 6th Ave and 8th street was empty while Papaya Dog, 5 blocks away on West 4th and 6th, was packed.

That's because they're better located nowadays. 8th Street used to be a jumping street at night...now it's practically dead after all of the clothing stores close. It's because there's no nightlife nearby other than Love.

[Edited by - PresIke on 10-12-2008 2:32 PM]

Haha...well, they've been there for ages, and it is a central location in the day, when they do a lot of business. It's just that they are open 24 hours, and late night on that street is just not as busy as it used to be, even a few years ago.

Young people used to treat 8th Street from 6th Ave to Broadway like a strip in other cities...

Dudes with their modified cars blasting music, girls and boys hanging out, etc. The stores there all cater to young people, head shops, tattoo parlours, edgy clothing stores, etc.. They also had the old Movieland cinema which played the Rocky Horror Picture Show, which meant there were always hip young people there. NYU is right up the street, so they would naturally gravitate to that street because of the "cool" factor.

Union Square has probably taken a lot of this population away too. That place used to be REALLY dead back in the day when they had possibly the most low-budget department store ever, Mays, and a bunch of banks surrounding the park, which was run down and neglected. Now Union Square is like a giant mall...it's THE hangout for high schoolers in the city, I think, and the oodles of college age and recent grads who seem to like it too...

Hence why I RARELY if ever go to the movie theater around there, which I'm guessing is the most sold out and overcrowded place to go to the movies in the city.

Clothing stores, if linked to "hipness" can very well help an area.

The Meat Packing District (Upper Far West Village) is filled with boutiques now, but also has nightlife. Soho, on the other hand, has some nightlife scene, but it's still more for day shopping.

[Edited by - PresIke on 10-12-2008 4:13 PM]

4949, I couldn't agree with you more. You summarized the problem of development, or "gentrification," very well.

Be careful people... the ghost of Isiah Tomas is still roaming at the Garden
I am optimistic that everyone will get.. what they deserve.

[Edited by - arkrud on 10-13-2008 12:18 AM]

Posted by 4949:

New York is turning more and more into a shopping mall nowadays. Too much big brother going around also. But it's one of those eras that you can't stop I guess. New York got older and older and undeveloped and it is in those places, areas that people and events created some of the most influential pop culture the world had ever seen. Oh' and don't forget about Andy's second 'The Factory' in Union. Did you know that he paid only $100.00 'A YEAR' for rent at his first place, which used to be over on 47th St.? Amazing.

That's what's sad about development. It drives the originals out and brings in a whole new order of people (usually not from the areas) and the story gets lost about what the neighborhoods used to mean. I miss the old Rocky Horror picture show routine! I finally tried that Whole Foods at Columbus Circle and it's kind of cool looking and I like the way they check you out of line and all, but there's something missing. The original aura's of the place. There's no sense of place in certain areas anymore.



[Edited by - 4949 on 10-12-2008 4:38 PM]

I finally agree with 4949 on something completely!

oohah

I'm not too optimistic about the record for this year and waiting impatiently to move on from the Isiah/Marbs era but I am finally excited about us moving forward with a rebuild(even though it will be a slow and painful process). A rebuild that is happening what 9 years too late? When did Pat get traded again? Only organization in history that didn't think it had to rebuild after losing it's franchise player. Stupid organization but at the moment it feels that the momentum is starting in the right direction

I hit my first 100 posts!!! Im special!!!

Posted by cooch2584:

I hit my first 100 posts!!! Im special!!!

I joined only six months earlier than you and I have over 7300 hits and you have 100? WTF!

[Edited by - 4949 on 10-14-2008 7:46 PM]