Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by VDesai:

I dunno, he has enough handle to create and has a decent looking shot. I think his offense could really develop in the same way that it did for a player like Richard Jefferson. As it is, he has the ability to fill up the stat sheets and be a mini-Marion for us. Gotta love his rate of activity out there.

Richardson has that swagger/cocky thing about him. He's also a step or so quicker and more loosey goosey. Marion is a freak of nature. Dude doesn't move around like a regular person. Hence his nickname......

Wilson is good and I love his game but I can't see him in the Class of Mariona nd Richardson....he's a step below them.

Take a look at this Danny Granger footage.....Its boring as hell but you would think you were looking at Wilson Chandler....the dudes are exactly the same player like they are twins or something. I wouldn't mind Wilson putting up Grangers numbers btw....about 14/5 in his 2nd year and about 20 and 6 in his 3rd. Thats damn good but I don't know if Wilson has that swagger, or gleem in his eye to be a borderline all-star. Granger has it.

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by anklebraker:

I think Chandler has that T-mac type of calm swagger. He doesn't show off,he just does what his team needs him to do,whether it be a supporter or future star.

T-Mac is pretty arrogant. He may be calm but the dude thinks he is Gods gift to basketball. Wilson is humble. He's not an arrogant prick, he doesnt pop **** or pump his chest.

TMS mentions Allan Houston.....they have very similiar ways about them, but Allan was a gifted one on one player and had the mentality that he wanted to be great. Even though he was quiet and talked about team, allan wanted to get his glory.....thats why he wont just stay retired. I dunno If Wilson has that in him.

I compared him to Danny granger. Very similiar but Granger wants the rock. Wilson shows he isn't afraid, but he plays ball. I dunno if he really wants the rock, like to be a key guy. Wilson seems to just be into playin ball. I dunno if he has that little bit of selfishness or ego to be the man.

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by anklebraker:

I think Chandler has that T-mac type of calm swagger. He doesn't show off,he just does what his team needs him to do,whether it be a supporter or future star.

T-Mac is pretty arrogant. He may be calm but the dude thinks he is Gods gift to basketball. Wilson is humble. He's not an arrogant prick, he doesnt pop **** or pump his chest.

TMS mentions Allan Houston.....they have very similiar ways about them, but Allan was a gifted one on one player and had the mentality that he wanted to be great. Even though he was quiet and talked about team, allan wanted to get his glory.....thats why he wont just stay retired. I dunno If Wilson has that in him.

I compared him to Danny granger. Very similiar but Granger wants the rock. Wilson shows he isn't afraid, but he plays ball. I dunno if he really wants the rock, like to be a key guy. Wilson seems to just be into playin ball. I dunno if he has that little bit of selfishness or ego to be the man.

Supper-Star mentality is not something that comes beforehand. Player should be able to dominate game after game and then the feeling of self-entitlement will come.
It is not about the ability - it is about accomplishment. And Chan is just starting to play. So it is long way.

All the good scorers have a nasty edge about them. Or a killer instinct. Even a calm Dude like Tim Duncan, even though he's calm and never talks ****, best believe the guys is pschotically focused. Driven.

Its like elden campbell. Elden didn't have that drive, cuz the dude was just as talented as any center during his playing days.

Anyway, I think Wilson may reach double figures in scoring and some nice rebs, but I dunno if he can be that guy who you know is the man and will give us 20pts a night or put the team on his back.

Edit:

I forgot to make this comment......that superstar confidence came when these guys were young. Like did Lebron need to play in te nba and dominate to get the confidence he has? Lebron has probably had his swagger since elementary school.

Marbury has that arrogant swagger. Why? Cuz he has been crowned a prince since he was 5 years old playing in biddy leagues.



[Edited by - enyspree on 13-10-2008 1:03 PM]

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by Paladin55:

I never get that excited about the dunks or the swagger.

I want to see a consistent J from Chandler, and I want to see him shoot it without the dribble set-up that some have pointed to as a weakness in his game. I would hope that by the end of the year he is starting in the 3 spot or averaging about 30MPG. I expect a 13-15 PPG, 8 RPG, 2 APG, 1 BPG, and 1 SPG line for him by the end of the year, or at least those kinds of numbers once his playing time increases.

I think you are confused with what I mean about swagger.

Its not about flamboyant behavior, beating of the chest and screaming.....has nothing to do with that. Its walking with confidence. That aura, that way about you that breathes confidence.....it borders ****iness.

Ray Allen has some mean swagger. He's the quietest person I can think of at his skill level. He will shoot but not cuz he's a good shooter. He probably think its the balls fault if he misses. No flash or beating of the chest. He has that "can't nobody **** with me" way about him.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by Paladin55:

I never get that excited about the dunks or the swagger.

I want to see a consistent J from Chandler, and I want to see him shoot it without the dribble set-up that some have pointed to as a weakness in his game. I would hope that by the end of the year he is starting in the 3 spot or averaging about 30MPG. I expect a 13-15 PPG, 8 RPG, 2 APG, 1 BPG, and 1 SPG line for him by the end of the year, or at least those kinds of numbers once his playing time increases.

I think you are confused with what I mean about swagger.

Its not about flamboyant behavior, beating of the chest and screaming.....has nothing to do with that. Its walking with confidence. That aura, that way about you that breathes confidence.....it borders ****iness.

Ray Allen has some mean swagger. He's the quietest person I can think of at his skill level. He will shoot but not cuz he's a good shooter. He probably think its the balls fault if he misses. No flash or beating of the chest. He has that "can't nobody **** with me" way about him.

Ray Allen reminds me of Steve Smith... he's got a smooth swagger about him but u know he's an assassin & wants to plant that knife deep into your heart at the end of the game.

So you guys get what I'm saying.........so......do you guys see that in Wilson Chandler?

As I stated, I think the dude can be sucsessfull.....just not more than what say a luol deng or granger have done so far. I think he'll cap off @ 17 if we're lucky.

Posted by EnySpree:

So you guys get what I'm saying.........so......do you guys see that in Wilson Chandler?

As I stated, I think the dude can be sucsessfull.....just not more than what say a luol deng or granger have done so far. I think he'll cap off @ 17 if we're lucky.

If a guy is good he doesn't need other players to leave for him to shine. Unless they were blocking him in the depth chart like a jermaine o'neal in portland.

Posted by MS:

Duhon
Marbury
Chandler
Lee
Zach

I think that lineup can win a lot of games, I think that lineup has a lot of energy, and mild defensive potential.

Chandler has a long strong build, runs well, jumps well, shoots the ball effectively and has an array of moves and his confidence is coming to him. He is going to be a fringe allstar when he puts it together. give the kid time.