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A little disappointed that Chandler did not do enough to get into starting 5
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Pharzeone
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10/9/2008  1:40 AM
Posted by Cosmic:

Our best starting lineup, like it or not, will be:

Nate
Crawford
Chandler
Zach
Lee

They're going nowhere special but that's bound to be the best lineup we got----and---we should have seen it post-ASG-break last season as it is.

My best at the moment is

Nate
Marbury
Chandler
Lee
Z-Bo

Crawford is better off the bench, has been that way his entire career.
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Cosmic
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10/9/2008  1:55 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Cosmic:

Our best starting lineup, like it or not, will be:

Nate
Crawford
Chandler
Zach
Lee

They're going nowhere special but that's bound to be the best lineup we got----and---we should have seen it post-ASG-break last season as it is.

My best at the moment is

Nate
Marbury
Chandler
Lee
Z-Bo

Crawford is better off the bench, has been that way his entire career.

Best....Marbury In...based on pure skill? Sure!

But, fit? Given coach and team mates? Nah, gotta disagree.

As I've said you either given Marbury the ball and tell him to be Starbury - or - you get rid of him, no middle ground.

Given Mike's philosophy here Marbury is a poor fit.

Given that Crawford drives me insane (as does Zach) ((( Given their ability to be so much better than their noodle heads allow ))) it's still the best lineup I can figure.

It's going to be a long couple of years, isn't it...
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10/9/2008  8:21 AM
I thought Duhon showed a lot last night. He had 10 rebounds and some good assists. He turned the ball over a lot of shot poorly but those are two things you expect to see improve with time and chemistry

If Q is playing well and in shape I have no problem with him starting. There are plenty of minutes at the 3/4 for Chandler off the bench
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10/9/2008  10:27 AM
Posted by daddynel:

only flaw i've seen w/chandler's offense is he tends to dribble the ball once before he shoots it. he needs to learn to catch and shoot better. particularly in this offense. maybe it's just a minor issue of him setting his feet.

Good point. It is a problem for a lot of guys in the NBA. Seems to be a timing issue to me. It is also something he should be practicing on every day.

When I used to practice shooting alone I did a similar thing to your 'spinning the ball to yourself" practice technique- only I would throw the ball over my head from behind my head so I would not know exactly the angle it was coming from or where it would land, and then I would move to the ball, gather it in, square up, and shoot without putting it on the floor.

I think the biggest problem is that a lot of players do not have their feet and hands in position before they get the ball, and the dribbling is used for putting themselves in position. Kind of like tennis- where it is my understanding that you should have everything in position and your feet stationary to hit the ball as hard and as accurate as you can.

Hopefully he can rectify the problem, because I was hoping he would get a lot of minutes at the 3 position this year and eventually assume the starting role. I expect that D'Antoni wants his guys to be able to catch and shoot without giving the process a second though, and Chandler will have to adjust to this fact.

I think Chandler will end up starting by the end of the year- it is just going to be a gradual process.
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10/9/2008  12:00 PM
Posted by Paladin55:
Posted by daddynel:

only flaw i've seen w/chandler's offense is he tends to dribble the ball once before he shoots it. he needs to learn to catch and shoot better. particularly in this offense. maybe it's just a minor issue of him setting his feet.

Good point. It is a problem for a lot of guys in the NBA. Seems to be a timing issue to me. It is also something he should be practicing on every day.

When I used to practice shooting alone I did a similar thing to your 'spinning the ball to yourself" practice technique- only I would throw the ball over my head from behind my head so I would not know exactly the angle it was coming from or where it would land, and then I would move to the ball, gather it in, square up, and shoot without putting it on the floor.

I think the biggest problem is that a lot of players do not have their feet and hands in position before they get the ball, and the dribbling is used for putting themselves in position. Kind of like tennis- where it is my understanding that you should have everything in position and your feet stationary to hit the ball as hard and as accurate as you can.

Hopefully he can rectify the problem, because I was hoping he would get a lot of minutes at the 3 position this year and eventually assume the starting role. I expect that D'Antoni wants his guys to be able to catch and shoot without giving the process a second though, and Chandler will have to adjust to this fact.

I think Chandler will end up starting by the end of the year- it is just going to be a gradual process.

Yeah, I think that's the exact issue. It's a fundamental thing. I had seasons were I was put at the 2 guard by default because of my shooting ability. I would play off the ball a lot. In some offenses it called for a lot of spotting up. Find an open spot and wait for the ball. If I was in motion with the guard I was always in good shooting position. If I was stationary I was rarely in good position, flat footed and legs straight. It's an easy thing to fix if you have a coach that works on it at a young age. But if you are figuring it out at 20+ it's still fixable, but can take a little more time than one would think. I do remember Allan Houston discussing this his first season. He said it took a full year of work for him to break that habit. Hopefully Wilson works on it.
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A little disappointed that Chandler did not do enough to get into starting 5

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