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This is ridiculous: Marbury needs to go now
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Nalod
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9/30/2008  11:03 AM
Marbury can't help himself. He is a child. He says he does not care but he really is hurt by his image but does nothing to change.

All he has to do is say he is a basketball player, he is here to play basketball and be the best teammate he can be. Then he should just apologize to his teammates and ask that he just be given a change to earn their trust.

Then play strong ball, be a leader and STFU about the rest of it.

But he is ToxicBury!

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9/30/2008  11:19 AM
Posted by Nalod:

Marbury can't help himself. He is a child. He says he does not care but he really is hurt by his image but does nothing to change.

All he has to do is say he is a basketball player, he is here to play basketball and be the best teammate he can be. Then he should just apologize to his teammates and ask that he just be given a change to earn their trust.

Then play strong ball, be a leader and STFU about the rest of it.

But he is ToxicBury!


I don't even think he has to do all that. Just tell the press that he wants to be a Knick. Everything else is out of his control and he will play hard for the Knicks, because that is where he is right now.

If he kept it simple like that he would have a better effect on his teammates. Unfortunately the media would still not go away, and he would still be a distraction. Although as a fan I could stomach Marbs if it was all about the media trying to stir things up and not all about Marbs running out at the mouth
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9/30/2008  11:21 AM
Posted by MS:
This is no reason Roberson and Ewing Jr. Should be in camp,

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9/30/2008  11:28 AM
Marbury's problem is his head and mouth. Too bad he can't just learn....or have a close friend coach him on how to behave and how to say things properly. I think he is hurt by the bad press , which he deserves, and just lashes back in defense.

The person who impresses me most so far is Zach. I think he has bought into D'A and is going to try to fit in; play hard; and try to behave off the court(altho that will be tough for Zach to do for an entire season). Other than his ridiculous contract, he could be a strong positive asset this year. I know all of his past crap, but I'll give him a chance to change before I would for Marbury or Eddie.
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9/30/2008  11:29 AM
Posted by MS:

As usual Jamal Crawford is saying all the right things, being the teams mouth piece.

Then he gets on the floor and takes terrible shots, plays zero defense is careless with the ball and says all the right thing after the games.

Losers always have excuses, winners get themselves ready regardless of the situation and play ball. Maybe Marbury is a big problem, clearly he is ignorant and dumb, saying his legacy is secure? But the Knicks handle things like amateurs. Walsh and Mike needed to say he is on the team speculation is only a problem when a role is not defined. They left this up in the air this is what happens.

This is no reason Roberson and Ewing Jr. Should be in camp, Malik Rose and Jerome James should be bought out. Eddy Curry's fat lazy ass should be suspended what kind ignorant mother ****er brings in this dump of **** and doesn't structure in his contract that either he reports in shape or he is fined. He has a bad heart no one wanted him so if you are giving him big money you need to add these things in the contract.

This organization is such a disgrace it's scary. Walsh I am sorry first round picks are valuable assets, but if you want to change the culture you get Zach off this team his value will never increase all he needs to do is get in trouble again or get injured and this team sucks for another four years. A first round pick is a gift to get rid of the guy and open things up to play the ball the D'Antoni likes with Lee, Chandler, Q, Crawford, Duhon, with Nate, Gallo, Eddy and Marbury off the bench. Who cares how many losses we compile the idea is to build everyones value not create a circus.


This article says Walsh and D'Antoni did NOT leave it "up in the air" and asked Dolan to buy Marbury out and Dolan refused. That's why I posted it, because that's what it said.

What's the point of trying to pay a team to take Zach away when the real problem won't be bought out by our idiot owner? Dolan keeping Marbury around is what has created the circus. I agree with what you're saying in general, but Marbury being here is Dolan's fault at this point. I love how Camby can fall out of Dolan's good graces by skipping a team photo op at a charity event and Marbury can molest an intern, embarass the organization for years at a time, go AWOL from the team and Dolan still wants him here. Dolan is the worst owner in all of sports. He's a dirt bag. And his band sucks. Hear me, Dolan? Your band is a joke, just like your basketball team.
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9/30/2008  12:16 PM
So how can one feel sorry for Walsh and D'Antonio. They took the big money to come here. It was no secret that Isiah wanted to buyout Marbury last season but was told he couldn't by Dolan. What's the big shock, just do your own fact checking before you come here. This is not new news.
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9/30/2008  3:13 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
I love how Camby can fall out of Dolan's good graces by skipping a team photo op at a charity event and Marbury can molest an intern, embarass the organization for years at a time, go AWOL from the team and Dolan still wants him here. Dolan is the worst owner in all of sports. He's a dirt bag. And his band sucks. Hear me, Dolan? Your band is a joke, just like your basketball team.

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9/30/2008  3:28 PM
Fellas it's one season!!! MDA and Walsh will have their day in the sun here. I don't see why this has to be such a big issue. We've only got to survive one more season or maybe half a season with this guy and then he's out of here and we all move on with our lives. Dolan is a jerk and we all know it, but it's the one thing we can't change about the team. Steph is a temporary annoyance right now. Once the games start we can see what we have then and if he's gonna play as a team player or be a jerk.

MDA always has the option of benching him or outright banishing him from the team, so we'll see how this plays out.
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9/30/2008  3:29 PM
if Marbury plays well and we start winning are you going to root for him? Or has he f'd up too much in the past in your eyes?
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9/30/2008  3:35 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Fellas it's one season!!! MDA and Walsh will have their day in the sun here. I don't see why this has to be such a big issue. We've only got to survive one more season or maybe half a season with this guy and then he's out of here and we all move on with our lives. Dolan is a jerk and we all know it, but it's the one thing we can't change about the team. Steph is a temporary annoyance right now. Once the games start we can see what we have then and if he's gonna play as a team player or be a jerk.

MDA always has the option of benching him or outright banishing him from the team, so we'll see how this plays out.

dude, chill out... not everyone is built like u to have blind faith in an organization that's disappointed their fan base for so many consecutive years... u can't blame people for being completely skeptical & critical at this point... u'r not a longtime Cubs fan by any chance, are u?
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9/30/2008  3:36 PM
Posted by NYK3:

if Marbury plays well and we start winning are you going to root for him? Or has he f'd up too much in the past in your eyes?

i'll be rooting for him to do well whenever he's wearing a Knicks' uniform & playing on the court, same as i would for every other Knicks player, even the ones i can't stand... no way do i wanna see him here after his contract expires tho, i don't care how well he plays this year.
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9/30/2008  6:52 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Fellas it's one season!!! MDA and Walsh will have their day in the sun here. I don't see why this has to be such a big issue. We've only got to survive one more season or maybe half a season with this guy and then he's out of here and we all move on with our lives. Dolan is a jerk and we all know it, but it's the one thing we can't change about the team. Steph is a temporary annoyance right now. Once the games start we can see what we have then and if he's gonna play as a team player or be a jerk.

MDA always has the option of benching him or outright banishing him from the team, so we'll see how this plays out.

ahhh ditto
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9/30/2008  8:21 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Marbury is mentally challenged. What's Jamal's excuse?

Steph had Kevin Garnett as a teammate in Minny, Shawn Marion & Amare Stoudamire as teammates in Phoenix & Kenyon Martin & Keith Van Horn (back when both those guys were putting up stats) in Jersey... in Jamal's first season he played w/Elton Brand & Ron Artest but that was back when he had a very minimal role on that Bulls team as a rook... after Jamal became a regular starter in '03 who was he playing with? Eddy Curry, Kirk Hinrich & a buncha scrubs... ur not seriously trying to compare what he's had to play with w/what Steph's had the luxury of playing alongside over his career, are u?

i'm not excusing Jamal's play since he's been here but he hasn't been a distraction to the team the way Steph has, let's be real here... besides that Jamal has played better than Steph over the past few years.

Marbury didn't play much last season, and the Knicks were in the same position before. Jamal is not part of the solution, he is a big part of the problem. Not sure why he gets the pass.
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9/30/2008  9:10 PM
So much hate and negativity. Don't be surprised if Marv never comes back now.
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10/1/2008  2:32 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Marbury is mentally challenged. What's Jamal's excuse?

Steph had Kevin Garnett as a teammate in Minny, Shawn Marion & Amare Stoudamire as teammates in Phoenix & Kenyon Martin & Keith Van Horn (back when both those guys were putting up stats) in Jersey... in Jamal's first season he played w/Elton Brand & Ron Artest but that was back when he had a very minimal role on that Bulls team as a rook... after Jamal became a regular starter in '03 who was he playing with? Eddy Curry, Kirk Hinrich & a buncha scrubs... ur not seriously trying to compare what he's had to play with w/what Steph's had the luxury of playing alongside over his career, are u?

i'm not excusing Jamal's play since he's been here but he hasn't been a distraction to the team the way Steph has, let's be real here... besides that Jamal has played better than Steph over the past few years.

Marbury didn't play much last season, and the Knicks were in the same position before. Jamal is not part of the solution, he is a big part of the problem. Not sure why he gets the pass.

whoever said Jamal gets the pass for the team's failures? i just said he hasn't been a huge distraction & negative lockerroom presence every year the way Steph has been... & u were calling him out for not being able to get to the playoffs in his career... like i said, u have to consider who he was playing with also... Steph's had way better teammates than Jamal's had over his career, it's not even close.

[Edited by - TMS on 10-01-2008 11:33 AM]
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This is ridiculous: Marbury needs to go now

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