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9/20/2008  10:18 AM
Who really cares, the guy is a joke. To bad his salary can't be voided and he actually has to work for a living and not just cash in sit pretty and then **** on the country that allowed his ignorant stupid, racist ass to live in the top 1%.

Cuban really had to deflect his ignorance with additional ignorance, that team has really gone down the ****ter
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9/20/2008  11:52 AM
The further America separates from God the further it will be a mess. If people just followed the way God wanted it to be then everyone would be eating and living well. There wouldn't be hatred between people or races. If people loved and feared God enough to avoid greed and all this corruption especially those who were & are in position of power then there wouldn't be the problems we face today.

America was supposed to be a "One nation under God", Even has "In God we trust" printed on our money. But this hasn't been a nation under God for a very very long time. Today's America isn't exactly the America its pioneers were hoping for. A lot of things have changed for the better from the past. But in the end we are still moving further away from the most important instrument to a nations success. Which is belief, love & fear of God.

All these things have been predicted yrs ago.
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9/20/2008  1:37 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself, NewYork. Well done.
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9/20/2008  1:59 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

The further America separates from God the further it will be a mess. If people just followed the way God wanted it to be then everyone would be eating and living well. There wouldn't be hatred between people or races. If people loved and feared God enough to avoid greed and all this corruption especially those who were & are in position of power then there wouldn't be the problems we face today.

America was supposed to be a "One nation under God", Even has "In God we trust" printed on our money. But this hasn't been a nation under God for a very very long time. Today's America isn't exactly the America its pioneers were hoping for. A lot of things have changed for the better from the past. But in the end we are still moving further away from the most important instrument to a nations success. Which is belief, love & fear of God.

All these things have been predicted yrs ago.

How many people were killed, tortured, and prosecuted in the name of God?
And which God are you talking about - Allah, Jesus, Buddha?
People must answer for their sins themselves and not hide behind God of any kind.
God is invented by man to make excuses and like instrument to rule uneducated crowds




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9/20/2008  5:48 PM
The killing in honor of God is an excuse. As far as I'm concerned, GOD supports no killing.
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9/20/2008  6:27 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

The further America separates from God the further it will be a mess. If people just followed the way God wanted it to be then everyone would be eating and living well. There wouldn't be hatred between people or races. If people loved and feared God enough to avoid greed and all this corruption especially those who were & are in position of power then there wouldn't be the problems we face today.

America was supposed to be a "One nation under God", Even has "In God we trust" printed on our money. But this hasn't been a nation under God for a very very long time. Today's America isn't exactly the America its pioneers were hoping for. A lot of things have changed for the better from the past. But in the end we are still moving further away from the most important instrument to a nations success. Which is belief, love & fear of God.

All these things have been predicted yrs ago.

How many people were killed, tortured, and prosecuted in the name of God?
And which God are you talking about - Allah, Jesus, Buddha?
People must answer for their sins themselves and not hide behind God of any kind.
God is invented by man to make excuses and like instrument to rule uneducated crowds



God seems to always take the blame for the mistakes and sins of man. People getting killed, tortured, and prosecuted in the name of God are because people leaned to there "own" understanding.

Where in Gods commandments did he state to kill, torture, and prosecute your neighbor?? Why is God getting blamed because man kind has disobeyed him over and over again?

The Bible is the oldest, most read, most studied, most sold/purchased book ever in the history of man. Through all the research done. There has not been on chapter, paragraph, sentence, or letter that has ever been proven wrong. There has been countless artifacts that have been found proving many exact dates and events the bible has proclaimed. I always here that the Bible was written by man so its false. Yet people choose to follow evolution which is written by man, inspired by the man(and the devil to cause confusion), based on a theory which has had many things proven wrong about it over time.

You say people must answer to there sins, but who are they to answer there sins to if not God? Another man? What makes one man more superior then the next? If there is no God then there is no such thing as good and evil. There would be no such thing as sin. We would be here with no purpose. Life would have no purpose or meaning or value. So taking another mans life wouldn't mean anything anyway. There wouldn't be any feelings or emotions without a God. There wouldn't be a such thing as love or hate.

If people did nothing else but just loved thy neighbor which God has asked it would make a "world" of a difference. Instead everyone is out for themselves because God slowly has been taken away in America. There is no fear of God or love for God. So there is no desire to follow his teachings.

All this has been foretold in the Bible yrs before I or you were even born.
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9/20/2008  6:29 PM
4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

15"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. 19How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! 20Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. 22If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23[b]At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, [b]I have told you ahead of time.[/b]
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9/20/2008  6:39 PM
God put people on this Earth and gave them the freedom to do anything they want. He is not in control of what they do. The people are responsible for their own actions.
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9/20/2008  7:58 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by JesseDark:

He did a good thing by posting these racist comments. These people are popping off and hiding behind the annoonyminty of the internet. By exposing their emails and ip addreses they may be forced to answer for their racist beliefs. If they are popping off from a job account the employer may not want to be associated with such comments. I can't imagine the person using a military account not having a price to pay.

[Edited by - jessedark on 09-20-2008 09:24 AM]

The only thing he did was attempt to take the heat off of a player he has invested tens of millions of dollars in. If he was a front office employee my bet is Cuban fires his arse. I consider e-mails private and he made them public. Does it alter the fact that these Yahoos are idiots? No but anyone who hs Internet access knows there are a ton of Yahoos and theycome from any race creed or color. Josh Howard may have his own thoughts on particular matters and he should keep them that way--private. I'm black and I can smoke weed and fck the National Anthem--nice message that you are sending to youth. Nice message you are sending those who died so that you can live free and prosperous. And personally anyone who is condoning his actions just doesnt get it. You're hiding behind the word black. I think at the very least if you have respect for the law and the nation you are RESPECTING those who have DIED for you MILLIONS of people. If things went different ways many years ago--you wouldnt even be here. The National Anthem is respect for our military and those who don't respect out military and their sacrifice should get the F out. I'm not talking about George Bush here either--he IS na arsehole and should be PROSECUTED for various atrocities. It's been embarassing to be an AMErican these last 8 years. Im talking about the 19 year old kid who had his life taken away whether it was 2008 1969 1941 1910 etc... if you don't have respect for those people you are trash.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 09-20-2008 09:40 AM]

You are confusing what Howard said/did and the bigoted racist views expressed in the emails. Using your logic since Howard did not stand or whatever for the anthem it is okay to unload on him with this racism. If you, meaning the people who wrote the emails, can't vent their displeasure with his antics without going racist then they deserve whatever retribution comes their way.
I'm sure Cuban got alot more letter than these on Howard. He probably chose these because they crossed the line.
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9/20/2008  9:41 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by JesseDark:

He did a good thing by posting these racist comments. These people are popping off and hiding behind the annoonyminty of the internet. By exposing their emails and ip addreses they may be forced to answer for their racist beliefs. If they are popping off from a job account the employer may not want to be associated with such comments. I can't imagine the person using a military account not having a price to pay.

[Edited by - jessedark on 09-20-2008 09:24 AM]

The only thing he did was attempt to take the heat off of a player he has invested tens of millions of dollars in. If he was a front office employee my bet is Cuban fires his arse. I consider e-mails private and he made them public. Does it alter the fact that these Yahoos are idiots? No but anyone who hs Internet access knows there are a ton of Yahoos and theycome from any race creed or color. Josh Howard may have his own thoughts on particular matters and he should keep them that way--private. I'm black and I can smoke weed and fck the National Anthem--nice message that you are sending to youth. Nice message you are sending those who died so that you can live free and prosperous. And personally anyone who is condoning his actions just doesnt get it. You're hiding behind the word black. I think at the very least if you have respect for the law and the nation you are RESPECTING those who have DIED for you MILLIONS of people. If things went different ways many years ago--you wouldnt even be here. The National Anthem is respect for our military and those who don't respect out military and their sacrifice should get the F out. I'm not talking about George Bush here either--he IS na arsehole and should be PROSECUTED for various atrocities. It's been embarassing to be an AMErican these last 8 years. Im talking about the 19 year old kid who had his life taken away whether it was 2008 1969 1941 1910 etc... if you don't have respect for those people you are trash.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 09-20-2008 09:40 AM]

But Briggs that can go both ways. Many blacks, out of deference and respect to those before them, wont honor a flag that in essence symbolizes cruel treatment at the hands of whites.

I dont want to get into yet another back-and-forth on race, but I hope you viewpoints can become a little two-dimensional. Yes, Howard is an unprofessional jackass. Yes, this isnt good for P.R and fan relations, but some here are missing the point, whether intentional or unintentional.

Slavery, Jim Crow, Civil rights movement. How can we get all starry-eyed at God Bless America? I was reading a book on WWII and there is a chapter about Black soldiers and how GERMAN P.O.W's actually had more rights and were treated with more respect among the American military personnel, than actual American Black soldiers. WOW!

All that stuff is real and its not to be forgotten just because you want Blacks to get over it. Those e-mails are just a small reflection of the hostility we consistently face.

[Edited by - sebstar on 09-20-2008 9:45 PM]
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9/20/2008  9:43 PM
Posted by Cosmic:
Posted by JesseDark:

He did a good thing by posting these racist comments. These people are popping off and hiding behind the annoonyminty of the internet. By exposing their emails and ip addreses they may be forced to answer for their racist beliefs. If they are popping off from a job account the employer may not want to be associated with such comments. I can't imagine the person using a military account not having a price to pay.

[Edited by - jessedark on 09-20-2008 09:24 AM]

And by doing it, again, he's deflecting criticism from Josh Howard's disgusting behavior and comments and saying "Why are you worried about Josh Howard? Look here, I found racists!!!"

It's a ploy and it's a stupid one and anyone who falls for it is not thinking clearly. The focus is Josh Howard, his terrible behavior, his asinine comments, and declining play since getting paid nicely. NOT Racists. Yet, Cuban has pulled that out of his ass in an attempt to distract you from the true issue at hand: Josh Howard's immature behavior.

Just curious, why do Howard's comments bother you so much and not racism?


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9/21/2008  12:05 AM
Just to go on a bit of a racial rant, I was born at the time of the Civil Right's biggest moments in the 60's. Now my mom and my wife's mom are still alive. My grandmother and my wife's grandmother are still alive. My wife's grandmother is 93 and she's seen a lot of hate in her time. All this is to say that like Holocaust victims, the memories are still fresh in the minds and conversations of MANY black homes. I think one of the real sad parts of white America is this idea that things are all better now and that we should just move on. This is to suggest that everything is color blind and that we all fully trust each other now. All the playing fields are level. Things are getting better but we still have a long way to go.

One day maybe Josh will grow up and stop nonsense like this. We all hope anyway.
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9/21/2008  12:24 AM
I think what is really disappointing about this is that Howard has always just been a great basketball player. He was player of the year as a senior but his play was not supposed to translate to nba success. He proved alot of gms wrong and has had a great career. I could care less if he hits the hookah but he has to have the sense to be discrete about it. His statements about the Star Spangled Banner were just stupid.
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9/21/2008  9:03 AM
i guess i musta missed this one, but what did Josh say about America that has everyone up in arms?
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9/21/2008  9:21 AM
Might have something to do with this:

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9/21/2008  9:46 AM
ah, thanks... first time seeing that clip... just a boneheaded immature kid on display there... i love Josh Howard's game & how he approaches the game on the court, but man, he sure does need a huge dose of maturity in the worst way imaginable... maybe this whole backlash he's experiencing will help him grow the F up a little bit, who knows?... he needs to go visit some of the graves in Arlington National Cemetery & see all the other black men & women who've sacrificed their lives so he can enjoy the life of luxury he's living now.

still doesn't excuse any of those ignorant racist comments being made by all those white supremisist a-holes tho... where do people get off thinking they can spout off & say whatever the hell they wanna say just cuz they have a Constitutional right to say it? that is what's so paradoxical about the foundation of this nation... we fight for everyone's right to free speech & yet we go & kill people for saying certain things that offend huge numbers of people living here... it can't work both ways... but i guess my even criticizing those idiots would fall under the same category.
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9/22/2008  12:01 PM
Posted by TMS:

ah, thanks... first time seeing that clip... just a boneheaded immature kid on display there... i love Josh Howard's game & how he approaches the game on the court, but man, he sure does need a huge dose of maturity in the worst way imaginable... maybe this whole backlash he's experiencing will help him grow the F up a little bit, who knows?... he needs to go visit some of the graves in Arlington National Cemetery & see all the other black men & women who've sacrificed their lives so he can enjoy the life of luxury he's living now.

still doesn't excuse any of those ignorant racist comments being made by all those white supremisist a-holes tho... where do people get off thinking they can spout off & say whatever the hell they wanna say just cuz they have a Constitutional right to say it? that is what's so paradoxical about the foundation of this nation... we fight for everyone's right to free speech & yet we go & kill people for saying certain things that offend huge numbers of people living here... it can't work both ways... but i guess my even criticizing those idiots would fall under the same category.

Good post, I agree with everything you said. I personally could careless how Josh Howard feels any more than I care how my neighbor 18 houses over feels. I don't know him and his feelings have no bearing on my everyday life. Personally I like this country, I do stand for the anthem and don't think Josh should be speaking on my behalf as a black man, but I don't really care.

As for the Yahoos that respond. I'm not surprised. We all know racism didn't end so I fully expected a response from some like this. I don't care anymore about what they think than I do about how Josh thinks.
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9/22/2008  3:53 PM
yeah, those idiots are all entitled to their own opinions, but it's just a sad commentary on our society in general from what both Josh & those racists all had to say.
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9/22/2008  4:50 PM
I know men who fought for this country and had to drink from a separate water fountain and were not allowed to vote when they got back.

However, they still love America and are undoubtedly 20X as patriotic as anyone who is bitching about Josh Howard's comments.

But, if those same men who spilled blood for this country, were then subsequently treated like dogs by it decided they did not care for the flag and anthem, I would not begrudge them that feeling as that is what America is all about: Freedom of expression.

People need to get off of their redneck soapboxes and learn some history, with their "Murrica, love it or leave it!" tired ass mantras. It shows a lack of education and perspective.

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Posted by oohah:

I know men who fought for this country and had to drink from a separate water fountain and were not allowed to vote when they got back.

However, they still love America and are undoubtedly 20X as patriotic as anyone who is bitching about Josh Howard's comments.

But, if those same men who spilled blood for this country, were then subsequently treated like dogs by it decided they did not care for the flag and anthem, I would not begrudge them that feeling as that is what America is all about: Freedom of expression.

People need to get off of their redneck soapboxes and learn some history, with their "Murrica, love it or leave it!" tired ass mantras. It shows a lack of education and perspective.

oohah

Agreed.....My father is a vietnam vet and the country shiot on him. 90% of the black males in his neighborhood were drafted into that godforsaken war. A whole generation of blacks from his neighborhood were either wiped out or discriminated against upon their return. It amazes me that my father is not bitter. He says again that he would not hesitate to fight for his country again. But if he said he would not stand for the anthem I could understand. The children of those people drafted in his neighborhood would have understandable hatred as well. Their children as well. I don't agree with that point of view but they have the right to feel that way. In the end, that right is what my father fought for.

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