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Gallinari--any information on his back?
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tkf
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9/16/2008  2:08 PM
some one posted this thought on realgm. I am not saying it is true, but it makes sense...

I'm hopeful that Gallo's back injury is simply a ruse staged by Gallo and the Knicks as a means for getting him out of his commitment to play for the Italian team.

A longer term lingering injury saves face for Gallo rather than a situation where he missed the Italian games and then immediately started working out for the Knicks.

This way the injury looks significant enough for him to have missed the games and doesn't put him in a difficult situation with his Italian team and the fans over there.

That's my hope.



makes sense to me, the kid missed playing for his country because of his back, probably want to save face by not all of a sudden being healthy and most likely insulting the itialian team... Just a thought..
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9/16/2008  2:31 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I would bet 5 dollars that he was hurt when we drafted him and they knew it. The Tractor Traylor hit was an aggravation injury.


Maybe now they will understand why I called "the gall" the ny community pick.

Making money while wearing suits like , Isiah's boy big snacks Jerome Jsmes.


[Edited by - playa2 on 16-09-2008 14:32]
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9/16/2008  2:32 PM
Who friggin knows. There are a million different scenarios, but it's all speculation. It's obviously not a good sign that he isn't playing. But you never know with these things. Just a few more weeks to find out.
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9/16/2008  3:22 PM
Posted by tkf:

some one posted this thought on realgm. I am not saying it is true, but it makes sense...

I'm hopeful that Gallo's back injury is simply a ruse staged by Gallo and the Knicks as a means for getting him out of his commitment to play for the Italian team.

A longer term lingering injury saves face for Gallo rather than a situation where he missed the Italian games and then immediately started working out for the Knicks.

This way the injury looks significant enough for him to have missed the games and doesn't put him in a difficult situation with his Italian team and the fans over there.

That's my hope.



makes sense to me, the kid missed playing for his country because of his back, probably want to save face by not all of a sudden being healthy and most likely insulting the itialian team... Just a thought..

in essence, the knicks are trying to dupe the country of italy and it's basketball officials for a kid that wasn't going to play alot until well past january anyways? i don't buy that reasoning.

we'll know in a few weeks what's up with him when training camp opens up...
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9/16/2008  3:50 PM
I think your impressions of Gallo's back are based on your opinions of him as a draft pick. Those who hated the pick are already calling him damaged goods. Those that supported the pick are claiming it's a ruse and that he's fine. Everyone else is showing mild concern and will just wait and see.

We are all so predictable.
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9/16/2008  4:03 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I would bet 5 dollars that he was hurt when we drafted him and they knew it. The Tractor Traylor hit was an aggravation injury.

that would make a disappointing pick all the more disappointing. what would be worst is if he was already injured and they DIDNT know it, as in, didn't do their homework properly (or sent an idiot to do the homework: Isiah).

either way, I think we're going to regret passing on Bayless and Anthony Randolph big time. especially by 2010 when we have no attractive young players to make our supposed cap room more appealing to a free agent.
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9/16/2008  5:28 PM
Posted by tkf:

some one posted this thought on realgm. I am not saying it is true, but it makes sense...

I'm hopeful that Gallo's back injury is simply a ruse staged by Gallo and the Knicks as a means for getting him out of his commitment to play for the Italian team.

A longer term lingering injury saves face for Gallo rather than a situation where he missed the Italian games and then immediately started working out for the Knicks.

This way the injury looks significant enough for him to have missed the games and doesn't put him in a difficult situation with his Italian team and the fans over there.

That's my hope.



makes sense to me, the kid missed playing for his country because of his back, probably want to save face by not all of a sudden being healthy and most likely insulting the itialian team... Just a thought..

I posted something similiar above you fake ass Realgm moderator!
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9/16/2008  6:09 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I would bet 5 dollars that he was hurt when we drafted him and they knew it. The Tractor Traylor hit was an aggravation injury.

That makes the most sense about him being hurt this long from one play............. either that or he was over compensating for another injury. If that was the case I would guess it's those bad hamys we keep hearing about on this guy. Either way it does look like we brought damaged goods.
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9/16/2008  7:03 PM
Isiah probably saw him get injured in Italy and recommended we draft him just so he could laugh at us on his way out.
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9/16/2008  7:18 PM
Kind of scks. Same terrible team + chris duhon. Atleast I thought we could have some hope with this kid.
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9/16/2008  7:24 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I would bet 5 dollars that he was hurt when we drafted him and they knew it. The Tractor Traylor hit was an aggravation injury.

Good call once again, Briggs. You were spot on with Marbury's knees too. Knicks medical staff are a complete joke. I was trying to give them the benefit of doubt but the truth is they don't deserve it. Like I said before F Walsh and the Knicks medical staff.
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9/16/2008  7:29 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Kind of scks. Same terrible team + chris duhon. Atleast I thought we could have some hope with this kid.

What did you expect in one off-season? Nobody wants Isiah's crap.
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9/16/2008  9:14 PM
Even ya boy Clyde Frazier(company man) doesn't trust "the gall" read:

Well, count Knicks legend and team broadcaster Walt "Clyde" Frazier among the skeptics.

Speaking on July 11, before Gallinari even made his brief appearance on the court in Vegas, Frazier was wondering if the foreign import was the right fit for a Knicks team hoping to make a quick turnaround under the new leadership of Donnie Walsh and Mike D'Antoni.

"No one knew about the guy," Frazier said. "The highlights, it looks like he's a scorer...but [he has] the same weaknesses: defense, rebounding."

"Plus the kid is only 19," Frazier continued. "C'mon, he's going to be overwhelmed by New York."

Frazier's final assessment suggested he doesn't think the Italian Stallion will be doing too much shaking or baking at the Garden this winter: "You're looking at a project. He's a project at best. I don't think he's going to be much help this year."
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9/16/2008  9:22 PM
Yeah Clyde, no ****. Nobody is expecting him to become a superstar overnight. The team is rebuilding. At least I hope it is. I still see the same useless faces and contracts on the team.
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9/16/2008  9:42 PM
Do we even know if any of this is even true regarding his physical condition? What if he shows up at camp in fine form? Until the Knicks actually make an official statement regarding his condition, I won't take any of this too seriously.

I'm hoping that there's nothing wrong with him, cuz i'd love to see him get a full season in and gain all that experience.
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9/16/2008  9:51 PM
my sources tell me that gallo is missing 3/4ths of his spine...details are still trickling in tho so i'll keep you updated...
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9/16/2008  10:08 PM
NBDL......

Do you guys think this kid will be the first Knick to play in the NBDL?
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9/17/2008  1:05 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

my sources tell me that gallo is missing 3/4ths of his spine...details are still trickling in tho so i'll keep you updated...

No sacrum, cervical vertebrae 3-7, nor thoracic 10-15.
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9/17/2008  9:13 AM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by djsunyc:

my sources tell me that gallo is missing 3/4ths of his spine...details are still trickling in tho so i'll keep you updated...

No sacrum, cervical vertebrae 3-7, nor thoracic 10-15.
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9/17/2008  11:11 PM
Posted by playa2:

Even ya boy Clyde Frazier(company man) doesn't trust "the gall" read:

Well, count Knicks legend and team broadcaster Walt "Clyde" Frazier among the skeptics.

Speaking on July 11, before Gallinari even made his brief appearance on the court in Vegas, Frazier was wondering if the foreign import was the right fit for a Knicks team hoping to make a quick turnaround under the new leadership of Donnie Walsh and Mike D'Antoni.

"No one knew about the guy," Frazier said. "The highlights, it looks like he's a scorer...but [he has] the same weaknesses: defense, rebounding."

"Plus the kid is only 19," Frazier continued. "C'mon, he's going to be overwhelmed by New York."

Frazier's final assessment suggested he doesn't think the Italian Stallion will be doing too much shaking or baking at the Garden this winter: "You're looking at a project. He's a project at best. I don't think he's going to be much help this year."

Ahhh ya gotta get a good laugh listening to Clyde in gereral, but let's be honest, he really doesn't bring too much insight to the table as a color commentator. Mike Breen/Gus Johnson and NY fans deserve a better analyst than Walt Frazier. Come on man, a project? A project at best???? Rediculous. I don't agree with that assessment at all. I mean, if you don't know the guy, just say so. Truth is this looks to be one of the more advanced prospects to come out of the draft. BTW, D'Antoni is on record as saying he expects him to play and contribute this year.

Gallo's clearly got some things to work on --- specifically showing us early on he's committed to playing defense & rebounding (I'm not expecting Dennis Rodman, just show us you're committed to these aspects), good shot recognition (some of his highlight reel shots did appeared forced at times), adjusting to a Western NBA style, & he needs to fill out and get a little stronger (all things that should come in time). Getting bigger and stronger is the key for him imo - the combination of his crafty dribble drive/perimeter game in an eventually stronger body is what will really seperate this kid from other players. I'm glad the Knicks see him as a 4 eventually - that's where he'll be most effective in the NBA. But clearly he has a lot of advanced skills already at an unusually young age - NBA ready skills. Now of course a lot relies on just looking at tape because he's a Euro. but after looking at a lot of tape and seeing him in that one summer league game I see a suprisingly advanced game with a good deal of polish:

- Excellent shooter from anywhere on the court. Shoots it well off the dribble too.
- Great passer/team-oriented guy.
- Can handle the ball very well at that size. Not uncommon to see him grab a rebound and go coast to coast for a score.
- For a fairly big dude (the projection is he'll grow to a legit 6'10" if he's not that tall already) he's very nimble - appears to get to the rim easily for a score or a foul.
- Despite the soft label he actually appears pretty tough to me. A good portion of the tape on this guy shows him continually being aggressive & attacking the rim strong, unafraid of and ready for the contact that comes with it.
- Appears crafty enough to have similiar success in the NBA with all his offensive moves despite the better competition.
- Above average FT shooter. Looks to have the type of aggressive game where he should be at the line a lot too.
- Shows good intensity out there.
- Good nose for the ball.

Hey that's what I see. I quickly warmed up to this pick once I started really looking at all the available footage on this guy. I think we got a good one here - has a chance to be special. My bet is we got a guy that will eventually be a player maybe not as good as Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki but hopefully better than Keith Van Horn, Detlef Schrempf & Toni Kukoc - all guys he's been compared to. Back injury aside (and with training camp right around the corner we're gonna find out quickly how badly he's hurt), I don't see why he can't come in and contribute right off the bat this year. Funny though, if you ask Clyde, he'd tell you we just drafted the next Jackie Butler....


[Edited by - finestrg on 09-18-2008 12:21 AM]
Gallinari--any information on his back?

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