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8/26/2008  7:10 PM
Why is this story such a surprise?
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8/27/2008  8:13 AM
Posted by 4949:

Why is this story such a surprise?

I have no idea. Did people magically think that racist idiots went away? they are always going to be there and Obama is aware of this. Hopefully the Secret service does their job and keeps the man safe.
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8/27/2008  10:42 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by 4949:

Why is this story such a surprise?

I have no idea. Did people magically think that racist idiots went away? they are always going to be there and Obama is aware of this. Hopefully the Secret service does their job and keeps the man safe.

The story is not a surprise, it's acceptance and lack of outrage surely is a surprise to me. People in America ACCEPT racism as long as it doesn't happen to them. It is as surprising to me as it is sad that Americans have not graduated past that. Obama is mixed, not all black........MIXED. Even the racist idiots must know that, right?

Europe doesn't sound that bad at all right now.
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8/27/2008  11:28 AM
Are some of us become that desensitized that men plotting to assinate a Presidential candidate is just business as usual? Cartman most people in this country define someone strictly by the color of their skin. So Obama even though he has a white parent was raised in a white environment, thats not relevant just the color of his skin.
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8/27/2008  11:56 AM
These high idiots can't drive straight, Amplify the N word, and think they can shoot Obama from seven and one half football fields away?

One jumped form the 6th floor.

We are desinsitized to racisim because it exists any time you have different people. You think racism does not exist is Europe? Sadly mistaken. It exists everywhere.

We have laws against it, we back the laws, and we strive to move forward. Obama is on the cusp of being elected. It demonstrates evolution away, but it still exists. We have hate crimes all the time.

Yes, killing a president has been a part of our history. As have killing leaders thru out history in all parts of the world.
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8/27/2008  12:31 PM
I'm not sure how I can take a guy wearing a purple robe seriously.
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8/27/2008  1:25 PM
Posted by MS:

Yea the country is a disgrace because of a couple of scum bags, try not to generalize everyone.

Although I'm not a supporter of his, he is a great leader and an event like this can't be tolerated these guys should be executed for the sheer magnitude of what an event like this would have done to the country. He is someone that everyone can be proud of and what a leader, especially a leader for his community should be.

Thank god this didn't happen so we didn't have to see degenerates like Sharpton and Jackson profit from tragedy, foster more hatred and keep people down to benefit financially.

well said. The country isnt a disgrace. These knuckleheads are. Why is it that Obama supporters love to talk about how much of a disgrace America is? Perhaps they have something in common with the candidate?

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8/27/2008  3:28 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by 4949:

Why is this story such a surprise?

I have no idea. Did people magically think that racist idiots went away?

are we talking about hatters here?

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8/27/2008  3:41 PM
This was nothing but a scare tactic, another false flag.

People who plan on capping somebody aren't that stupid in their preparation.

If he was gonna get assassinated it would come after his presidency , not before.

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8/27/2008  3:46 PM
Posted by colorfl1:
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Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by markvmc:

And yet no-one has even tried to assasinate dubya...

I wouldn't go that far. Just because it doesn't make the news, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
I cant recall a serious, newsworthy attempt such as this. Telling isnt it? Shows what this country is willing to accept, and what it wont.

I don't think your take on this is right at all... everyone I know is far more crushed by the news of a possible attempt on Obama's life than they would be if such an attack was planned on McCain.




[Edited by - colorfl1 on 08-26-2008 4:23 PM]

I appreciate your post and the obvious circle with which you inhabit, but I am just a little more cynical than yourself. When you see the popularity of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Micheal Savage --- radio shows which are basically dressed up Klan rallies, then you know a 'silent majority' exists. Racism is still very mainstream, its just morphed and evolved. The seething hatred is sill quite prevalent.

In this election, I am certain most would rather see a white man lead them to hell, than a black man lead them to heaven.
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8/27/2008  4:25 PM
What was striking about the convention last night was the interplay between Barack and his family. The difference between the two candidates was glaring. In Barack you have a man who came from a broken home and through hard work and talent rocketed to the top of his Harvard graduating class and still never lost touch with trying to improve the lives of the working class. In his personal life, he has a beautiful family that he obviously loves very much.

In McCain you have a cat that left his wife for his mistress, an heiress who, by the way, stole from her own charity to feed her drug habit. The same woman who he has called a c*nt in public and offered up her services to a drunken biker rally in Sturgis.

Funny how Christian, right-wingers arent as giddy to apply the term "family values" and "hard working Americans" to the Obama's.

Thats not even a consideration.
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8/27/2008  4:31 PM
Posted by sebstar:

What was striking about the convention last night was the interplay between Barack and his family. The difference between the two candidates was glaring. In Barack you have a man who came from a broken home and through hard work and talent rocketed to the top of his Harvard graduating class and still never lost touch with trying to improve the lives of the working class. In his personal life, he has a beautiful family that he obviously loves very much.

In McCain you have a cat that left his wife for his mistress, an heiress who, by the way, stole from her own charity to feed her drug habit. The same woman who he has called a c*nt in public and offered up her services to a drunken biker rally in Sturgis.

Funny how Christian, right-wingers arent as giddy to apply the term "family values" and "hard working Americans" to the Obama's.

Thats not even a consideration.

just found it hilarious that at the same time i'm reading that post, there's a "Support A Leader We Can Believe In" advertisement for McCain splashed up on the top of the UK website. lol.
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8/27/2008  4:53 PM
Posted by sebstar:

What was striking about the convention last night was the interplay between Barack and his family. The difference between the two candidates was glaring. In Barack you have a man who came from a broken home and through hard work and talent rocketed to the top of his Harvard graduating class and still never lost touch with trying to improve the lives of the working class. In his personal life, he has a beautiful family that he obviously loves very much.

In McCain you have a cat that left his wife for his mistress, an heiress who, by the way, stole from her own charity to feed her drug habit. The same woman who he has called a c*nt in public and offered up her services to a drunken biker rally in Sturgis.

Funny how Christian, right-wingers arent as giddy to apply the term "family values" and "hard working Americans" to the Obama's.

Thats not even a consideration.


I agree with you, but I gotta throw this out. Does it really matter how good a person Barak is, if he does not have the juice card to get it done?

No doubt Barak and his family are charming, youthful, smart, intelectual, and can offer hope. Im blown away by his youth, his good looking family, and can't help but be cynical to think that a young white guy could not get this far on merit alone. I ask, not offer to which is this country really just enamered with the idea of him more than really want his as our leader?

NOt that McCain is the man, but he is in place to run against Barak.

In truth I though Barak would have made a great VP to Hilary but was also thinking a women and a black man really was too much in one election for the public to handle.

Im thinking out loud here but I find this whole process really incredible.

I don't think Barak is really electable. While the whole change platform is a great ideal, in the end I think the status quo wins out as too much change just can't be digested by a fearful judo christian voter base who extropolates the past into the present.

Change? I'd like to see a flat tax enacted. I'd like to see universal health care with different tiers. Pay more, get more.

Thats massive, and not doable in this environment.

What can obama really do?

Obviously, I am a part of the problem that prevents change, but I also see that the grass is not greener in other places so before I enact change, Am I really changing for the better in reality? Or just the promise of it?

Isiah bought about great change, but it never added up to anything. Change is good, but not always effective.

Obama does not have the cred, and will have to sell more than emotions to win over many sects of the voting public.

Me included.
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8/27/2008  5:33 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by sebstar:

What was striking about the convention last night was the interplay between Barack and his family. The difference between the two candidates was glaring. In Barack you have a man who came from a broken home and through hard work and talent rocketed to the top of his Harvard graduating class and still never lost touch with trying to improve the lives of the working class. In his personal life, he has a beautiful family that he obviously loves very much.

In McCain you have a cat that left his wife for his mistress, an heiress who, by the way, stole from her own charity to feed her drug habit. The same woman who he has called a c*nt in public and offered up her services to a drunken biker rally in Sturgis.

Funny how Christian, right-wingers arent as giddy to apply the term "family values" and "hard working Americans" to the Obama's.

Thats not even a consideration.


I agree with you, but I gotta throw this out. Does it really matter how good a person Barak is, if he does not have the juice card to get it done?

No doubt Barak and his family are charming, youthful, smart, intelectual, and can offer hope. Im blown away by his youth, his good looking family, and can't help but be cynical to think that a young white guy could not get this far on merit alone. I ask, not offer to which is this country really just enamered with the idea of him more than really want his as our leader?

NOt that McCain is the man, but he is in place to run against Barak.

In truth I though Barak would have made a great VP to Hilary but was also thinking a women and a black man really was too much in one election for the public to handle.

Im thinking out loud here but I find this whole process really incredible.

I don't think Barak is really electable. While the whole change platform is a great ideal, in the end I think the status quo wins out as too much change just can't be digested by a fearful judo christian voter base who extropolates the past into the present.

Change? I'd like to see a flat tax enacted. I'd like to see universal health care with different tiers. Pay more, get more.

Thats massive, and not doable in this environment.

What can obama really do?

Obviously, I am a part of the problem that prevents change, but I also see that the grass is not greener in other places so before I enact change, Am I really changing for the better in reality? Or just the promise of it?

Isiah bought about great change, but it never added up to anything. Change is good, but not always effective.

Obama does not have the cred, and will have to sell more than emotions to win over many sects of the voting public.

Me included.

At least you are honest. Absolutely pathetic, but honest.

Its all about pigment.

First of all, quite frankly, Im insulted by your positioning of Barack as some sort of Affirmative Action hire who is only in this position because he is Black. As if its only because some our enamored with having a brotha in the white house. With people of your ilk, there is no way to win. Yo are inferior because you are Black, you are, somehow, in and advantageous position because you are Black

Obama is superior to McCain. Lets get that straight. Obama graduated at the top of his Harvard Law Class, while McCain scrapped the bottom of the barrel. But we cant have superior leadership from our President if he happens to be black.

In the most important foreign policy decision in decades, Barack had it right on the money and had the courage and foresight to go against the overwhelming tide

With McCain its assumed. Its assumed he can lead based on something that he has no control over. Other countries and nations have caught on. Were a laughingstock.

There is no onus on McCain, simply because he is white. Lets put McCain under the microscope and see how he fares. Foreign Policy? More wars. Economy? Admittedly he knows nothing. No matter what he does, or how little he does, all that matters is that he's white.

But we cant change, you say. We are scared. We start to bite our nails. Americans are big ass pussies. We want others to fight wars we start, we dont want to own up to our mistakes. And we let pigment drive our thoughts and decisions, because we're too scared to think.

As such, we get the same recycled arguments We have heard it before throughout the decades. We cant give Blacks their basic human rights. Its too much too soon. So, How many leaders did we miss out on? How many great moments did we miss out on? How many intellectual advancements did we miss out on? How many moments of personal enlightenment have we missed out on. All because of pigment and the fact that too many are too frightened to display courage and intelligence.

If this isnt the climate the shift the paradigm that when will that time arrive? 8 years of status quo that have led us into our worst standing since the great depression

The culture of this country is a joke.


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8/27/2008  6:35 PM
I think some can handle Obama in the whitehouse, but can they handle his black wife and kids running on the lawn is another story.


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8/27/2008  6:58 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

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8/27/2008  8:54 PM
Sebby,

Lets be real also, your pigment bleeds pretty much thru anything you write.

But lets also discuss besides lead his class at Harvard, what has Obama done on the big stage that warrents such an opportunity as he has gotten? What distingushed record has he accomplished that gives him the cred to stand up and lead our country?

Forget the other stuff, McCain is a piece of Sh!t, so it ain't about him that im talking about.

I asked a question about his getting so far so soon and I can't find an answer.

Yeah, i think white america thinks this is a cute thing and is all about "change", but won't have the guts when the time comes. Why? Cuz he is not substantial.

Hilliary we know is a cut throat cu'nt, but we know that. What is Obama? The only compare I can make is he is a darker version of Bill Clinton. Single mom, good school, bright ambitious wife, young child........ and America adopted this charasmatic white trash and thought change would be good.

And be polite. I offered a good question mostly in the third party and not in my belief. If Im pathetic, then your not being honest. Be objective. Its ok, you don't have to champion the cause, just discuss whats real.

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8/27/2008  9:34 PM
What needs to be said is that 1/4 presidents have attempts made on their lives, this is not an isolated incident by any means, but having an attempt on Obama would be deterimental to the progress of this country....

And calling out someone because they call Obama inexperienced and bringing race into the equation is laughable. 95 % of African Americans are voting for Obama that is actually a fact his experience isn't even brought into question which is a ****ing joke, the man has literally a year and a half experience in the Senate. Doing well in school also doesn't qualify you to be President, half the leaders of this country are average students.

There is nothing wrong with appreciating Obama for what he has achieved, but he hasn't been picked apart by the media and has enjoyed one large grace period. McCain isn't a superstar by any stretch, but if you heard McCain preacher that was a mentor figure was a racist white radical I can only imagine the **** that people would be saying. If you think Obama is going to be good for jobs the economy, etc fine, but preaching, being smooth and promising hope without solutions doesn't qualify you to be president.
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8/28/2008  6:14 AM
Posted by MS:

What needs to be said is that 1/4 presidents have attempts made on their lives, this is not an isolated incident by any means, but having an attempt on Obama would be deterimental to the progress of this country....

Yes you are right, but hom many attempts were made on them before they have won the presidency and are in the whitehouse ????????


This is not the same!



[Edited by - playa2 on 28-08-2008 06:17]
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8/28/2008  9:06 AM
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