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djsunyc
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8/27/2008  10:00 AM
just read somewhere that the head coach for spain was only with the team for 2 months and immediately quit after the olympics and there was much drama involved in his selection and his short tenure.
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8/27/2008  11:11 AM
Posted by Nalod:

They used to practice for two weeks and then go play.

Larry got legit beef. Yes, Lebron and Carmello were rookies, and Larrys point guard was Marbury.

They whined and complained.

I agree, no Kobe, No commitment no way they beat spain this time.

Colangelo got his commitments well in advance and it proved very important.

Larry got his gold as the point guard in 1964. Larry got his championship in the NCAA, and NBA. He has the trifecta!


great point.. I don't understand the brown hate. Some people just need to let it go... What happened here was the fault of this poorly run organization. Not brown..

And as mentioned before, this team was committed. The players committed 3 years ago and were focused. They practiced much more than the 2004 team and had time to gel. Plus guys like lebron, melo and boozer are just better players now. Add in chris paul and deron williams(who were not available then) and it is easy to see how this dream team was not going to lose.. give brown this team, with the same committments and he gets gold just as well... come on guys...

He has a legit beef...
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8/27/2008  3:36 PM
No, this is not a legit beef and this is another peek into the questionable character of Larry Brown. Did he have access to the best of the best? No. But what did the other countries have in terms of star power? Did other countries have Kobe, Lebron, ext...

The '04 squad was a poor collection of talent in terms of international ball, and it was poorly coached. Instead of being a man and just accepting responsibility, as usual, LB looks to point fingers and train the spotlight right back onto his fragile ego. We've received the memo a million times Larry, when things go bad its never YOUR fault.

Straight up, Larry is one of the more pathetic figures in sports. If somebody else had his track record, and was not as media friendly, or who wasnt as skilled at flashing that dopey, 'poor me' expression, said individual would have been run out on a rail.
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8/27/2008  5:09 PM
Posted by sebstar:

No, this is not a legit beef and this is another peek into the questionable character of Larry Brown. Did he have access to the best of the best? No. But what did the other countries have in terms of star power? Did other countries have Kobe, Lebron, ext...

The '04 squad was a poor collection of talent in terms of international ball, and it was poorly coached. Instead of being a man and just accepting responsibility, as usual, LB looks to point fingers and train the spotlight right back onto his fragile ego. We've received the memo a million times Larry, when things go bad its never YOUR fault.

Straight up, Larry is one of the more pathetic figures in sports. If somebody else had his track record, and was not as media friendly, or who wasnt as skilled at flashing that dopey, 'poor me' expression, said individual would have been run out on a rail.

He wins, so he still gets jobs.

Kind of like what I was talking about in my presidential election point: Must we like a man whos effective and wins?

We liked Isiah. He was charming, good looking, and we looked past his executive record. He is perhaps the worst executive in professional sports history. Its all subjective, but money spend vs. wins is one measure.

Larry, like Adolph Rupp, Bobby Knight, Bear Bryant, Landry, Parcells, etc etc were never lovable fellas and only were tolerated cuz they were winners.

And those who were not winners were quickly removed into oblivion and not given further opportunities to redeem their reputations.

Larry is a SOB. So what?

He was stupid to try to coach those spoiled players who had enough talent on a bad day to beat just about anyone.

In our society we seem to "demonize" and lay blame on those who fail us. In knick land, larry seems to almost carry more ire than Isiah.

Larry earned the right long ago to complain, and My guess is Colangelo called him first to ask him what team USA should do going forward to correct the awful process.

Larry has a gold metal. He was the starting point for the 1964 gold winning team.

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8/27/2008  5:26 PM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by sebstar:

No, this is not a legit beef and this is another peek into the questionable character of Larry Brown. Did he have access to the best of the best? No. But what did the other countries have in terms of star power? Did other countries have Kobe, Lebron, ext...

The '04 squad was a poor collection of talent in terms of international ball, and it was poorly coached. Instead of being a man and just accepting responsibility, as usual, LB looks to point fingers and train the spotlight right back onto his fragile ego. We've received the memo a million times Larry, when things go bad its never YOUR fault.

Straight up, Larry is one of the more pathetic figures in sports. If somebody else had his track record, and was not as media friendly, or who wasnt as skilled at flashing that dopey, 'poor me' expression, said individual would have been run out on a rail.

He wins, so he still gets jobs.

Kind of like what I was talking about in my presidential election point: Must we like a man whos effective and wins?

We liked Isiah. He was charming, good looking, and we looked past his executive record. He is perhaps the worst executive in professional sports history. Its all subjective, but money spend vs. wins is one measure.

Larry, like Adolph Rupp, Bobby Knight, Bear Bryant, Landry, Parcells, etc etc were never lovable fellas and only were tolerated cuz they were winners.

And those who were not winners were quickly removed into oblivion and not given further opportunities to redeem their reputations.

Larry is a SOB. So what?

He was stupid to try to coach those spoiled players who had enough talent on a bad day to beat just about anyone.

In our society we seem to "demonize" and lay blame on those who fail us. In knick land, larry seems to almost carry more ire than Isiah.

Larry earned the right long ago to complain, and My guess is Colangelo called him first to ask him what team USA should do going forward to correct the awful process.

Larry has a gold metal. He was the starting point for the 1964 gold winning team.

I never said he didnt win, or that he wasnt a good coach.

What I said is that he's a punk, and a pathetic, 'out for himself at all times', rat. Others win, but have poor reputations because they aren't as coddled and protected like Brown. His farcical image remains intact.

And with guys like him, when he doesn't win the index fingers starts pointing in other directions. No character. Thats what I'm talking about. Others have won a hell of a lot more than him, and certainly done it with more class, dignity and honor.

Spoiled players, huh?

[Edited by - sebstar on 08-27-2008 5:27 PM]
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Nalod
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8/27/2008  8:41 PM
If you win almost all the time doing the same thing, and then you don't, what changes?

Spoiled rotten players who would not play as a team.

Thats what I mean. Team USA always had more talent then others, just not the heart.

We arguing the small points now.

BTW, whats your take on Mike D.?
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8/27/2008  10:58 PM
Posted by BlacKat:

Brown Blames 9/11 And Injuries For Bronze In 2004


Aug 25, 2008 11:20 AM EST
Larry Brown was the head coach of Team USA during their Bronze medal performance in the 2004 Olympics in Athens.

"The thing is they got guys that are willing to make a three-year commitment, which I think is tremendous," Brown said of this current Team USA. "We had guys that committed (for 2004) and then all of a sudden 9/11 happened, and then there were injuries."

Kobe Bryant, Jason Kidd, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen all made late withdraws for various reasons.

Via New York Daily News

General Basketball, Charlotte Bobcats

I officially nominate this for the most amazing quote of ALL TIME. what a douche.
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8/27/2008  11:05 PM
Posted by fishmike:

not for nothing.. thats a legit beef, and screw Larry. No Manu in against Arg and they eeked out a win against Spain with some big shots to close it out. If Kobe, Lebron and Bosh all didnt feel comfortable with traveling and they are replaced by lesser players than we are looking at another Bronze. End of story.

Call it an excuse
Call it a reason

Its the truth. Our best players didnt go

yeah, it's true, Bron and Wade weren't at the 2004 Olympics. Oh wait, yes, they were. Brown just didn't use them because he doesn't play young guys until they learn to "play the right way."

he's a horrible person. it's the truth.

if you're telling me that in 2004 a team of Tim Duncan, Lamar Odom, Allen Iverson, Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony, D Wade, Richard Jefferson, Stephon Marbury, etc didn't equal the best team at the Olympic Games, you're crazy. How they were coached? That's another story.
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8/28/2008  12:12 AM
Posted by sebstar:

No, this is not a legit beef and this is another peek into the questionable character of Larry Brown. Did he have access to the best of the best? No. But what did the other countries have in terms of star power? Did other countries have Kobe, Lebron, ext...The '04 squad was a poor collection of talent in terms of international ball, and it was poorly coached. Instead of being a man and just accepting responsibility, as usual, LB looks to point fingers and train the spotlight right back onto his fragile ego. We've received the memo a million times Larry, when things go bad its never YOUR fault.

Straight up, Larry is one of the more pathetic figures in sports. If somebody else had his track record, and was not as media friendly, or who wasnt as skilled at flashing that dopey, 'poor me' expression, said individual would have been run out on a rail.


the other countries also didn't have Jordan, magic and Ewing.. does that make Daly less of a coach? International ball has gotten better. Brown didn't have the best team, and he had a really young team, that was poorly mixed and rushed together...
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8/28/2008  8:28 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by fishmike:

not for nothing.. thats a legit beef, and screw Larry. No Manu in against Arg and they eeked out a win against Spain with some big shots to close it out. If Kobe, Lebron and Bosh all didnt feel comfortable with traveling and they are replaced by lesser players than we are looking at another Bronze. End of story.

Call it an excuse
Call it a reason

Its the truth. Our best players didnt go

yeah, it's true, Bron and Wade weren't at the 2004 Olympics. Oh wait, yes, they were. Brown just didn't use them because he doesn't play young guys until they learn to "play the right way."

he's a horrible person. it's the truth.

if you're telling me that in 2004 a team of Tim Duncan, Lamar Odom, Allen Iverson, Lebron James, Carmelo Anthony, D Wade, Richard Jefferson, Stephon Marbury, etc didn't equal the best team at the Olympic Games, you're crazy. How they were coached? That's another story.
JAmes and Anthony were 19 and 20 years old. Your right.. they *should* have been able to win. But they didnt if you remember because they could not shoot. Who cares about Brown? His point is we lost because we didnt send our best players and thats 100% correct. Marbury was the starting PG. Are Jefferson and Odom better than Manu and Gasol?

The Redeem Team coasted because Manu went out early. Against Spain they won a game that could have gone either way. Lets face it.. we were a bad shoot performance or a potential Manu non-injury from NOT winning the gold again.

Also 02/04/06 were NBA teams and that style doesnt win in international competition. The 08 squad was a FIBA team played with NBA players. Melo and LeBron played most of their minutes at PF.

All that and they still had to play a great game and hit big shots in crunch time to beat Spain.

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8/28/2008  10:27 AM
Um... why are we still caring about Larry Brown?

I'm just sayin'.
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8/28/2008  10:33 AM
Posted by K22:

Um... why are we still caring about Larry Brown?

I'm just sayin'.

Because deep down inside, everybody loves him. How can you not? He's so cuddly
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8/28/2008  10:41 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by K22:

Um... why are we still caring about Larry Brown?

I'm just sayin'.

Because deep down inside, everybody loves him. How can you not? He's so cuddly

He's about as cuddly as a vampire bat.
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8/28/2008  10:49 AM
Posted by Cartman718:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by K22:

Um... why are we still caring about Larry Brown?

I'm just sayin'.

Because deep down inside, everybody loves him. How can you not? He's so cuddly

He's about as cuddly as a vampire bat.

A cute cuddly wuddly little vampire bat
I just hope that people will like me
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8/28/2008  1:22 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Cartman718:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by K22:

Um... why are we still caring about Larry Brown?

I'm just sayin'.

Because deep down inside, everybody loves him. How can you not? He's so cuddly

He's about as cuddly as a vampire bat.

A cute cuddly wuddly little vampire bat

A cute cuddly wuddly little vampire bat with peepee problems. It's important to bring that last part up.
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8/28/2008  2:05 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Cartman718:
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by K22:

Um... why are we still caring about Larry Brown?

I'm just sayin'.

Because deep down inside, everybody loves him. How can you not? He's so cuddly

He's about as cuddly as a vampire bat.

A cute cuddly wuddly little vampire bat

A cute cuddly wuddly little vampire bat with peepee problems. It's important to bring that last part up.

It is important, that way when people are cuddling with him, they know not to squeeze to hard.
I just hope that people will like me
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8/28/2008  2:45 PM
slow day?
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