Posted by LongIslandKnicksFan:

I'd like neither to "win". All the President is, is a puppet who makes speeches. The neo-cons will continue to do what they need to do whats right for them and their big business. It's always been about money, power and greed. We live in a ****ty world man. I would have loved to see a constitutionalist in office like Ron Paul but he doesn't go with the agenda of corrupt government so therefore he won't "win".

Posted by LongIslandKnicksFan:

THE OBAMA NATION Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality

Barack Obama stepped onto the national political stage when the then-Illinois State senator addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Soon after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, author Jerome Corsi began researching Obama's personal and political background.

Scrupulously sourced with more than 600 footnotes, THE OBAMA NATION is the result of that research. By tracing Obama's career and influences from his early years in Hawaii and Indonesia, the beginnings of his political career in Chicago, his voting record in the Illinois legislature, his religious training and his adoption of Christianity through to his recent involvement in Kenyan politics, his political advisors and fundraising associates and his meteoric campaign for president, Jerome Corsi shows that an Obama presidency would, in his words, be “a repeat of the failed extremist politics that have characterized and plagued Democratic Party politics since the late 1960s.”

In this stunning and comprehensive new book, the reader will learn about: -Obama's extensive connections with Islam and radical politics, from his father and step-father's Islamic backgrounds, to his Communist and socialist mentors in Hawaii and Chicago, to his long-term and close associations with former Weather Underground heroes William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn—associations much closer than heretofore revealed by the press
-Barack and Michelle's 20-year-long religious affiliation with the black-liberation theology of former Trinity United Church of Christ Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have always been steeped in a rage first expressed by Franz Fanon , Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X, a rage that Corsi shows has deep meaning for Obama
-Obama's continuing connections with Kenya, the homeland of his father, through his support for the candidacy of Raila Odinga, the radical socialist presidential contender who came to power amid Islamist violence and church burnings
-Obama's involvement in the slum-landlord empire of the Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko, who helped to bankroll Obama's initial campaigns and to purchase of Barack and Michelle's dream-home property.
-the background and techniques of the Obama campaign's cult of personality, including the derivation of the words “hope” and change”
-Obama's far-left domestic policy, his controversial votes on abortion, his history of opposition to the Second Amendment, his determination to raise capital-gains taxes, his impractical plan to achieve universal health care, and his radical plan to tax Americans to fund a global-poverty-reduction program
-Obama's naïve, anti-war, anti-nuclear foreign-policy, predicated on the reduction of the military, the eradication of nuclear weapons and an overconfidence in the power of his personality, as if belief in change alone could somehow transform international politics, achieve nuclear-weapons disarmament and withdrawal from Iraq without adverse consequences, for us, for the Iraqis or for Israel.

Meticulously researched and documented, THE OBAMA NATION is the definitive source for information on why and how Barack Obama must be defeated—not by invective and general attacks, but by detailed arguments that are well-researched and fact-based.

Posted by LongIslandKnicksFan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul - "ending the federal income tax" is what it states.

Posted by playa2:

ron paul is equivalent to the little guy in texas ross perot.

neo-cons would never allow him near a nomination position because his views are anti- goverment new world order

Posted by arkrud:

Tactically the best scenario for American people is government which can do nothing.
With Congress shaping more and more Democratic we need Republican President.
If this is moronic guy like McCain so let's be it.
The best government is paralized government.

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THE OBAMA NATION Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality

Barack Obama stepped onto the national political stage when the then-Illinois State senator addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Soon after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, author Jerome Corsi began researching Obama's personal and political background.

Scrupulously sourced with more than 600 footnotes, THE OBAMA NATION is the result of that research. By tracing Obama's career and influences from his early years in Hawaii and Indonesia, the beginnings of his political career in Chicago, his voting record in the Illinois legislature, his religious training and his adoption of Christianity through to his recent involvement in Kenyan politics, his political advisors and fundraising associates and his meteoric campaign for president, Jerome Corsi shows that an Obama presidency would, in his words, be “a repeat of the failed extremist politics that have characterized and plagued Democratic Party politics since the late 1960s.”

In this stunning and comprehensive new book, the reader will learn about: -Obama's extensive connections with Islam and radical politics, from his father and step-father's Islamic backgrounds, to his Communist and socialist mentors in Hawaii and Chicago, to his long-term and close associations with former Weather Underground heroes William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn—associations much closer than heretofore revealed by the press
-Barack and Michelle's 20-year-long religious affiliation with the black-liberation theology of former Trinity United Church of Christ Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have always been steeped in a rage first expressed by Franz Fanon , Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X, a rage that Corsi shows has deep meaning for Obama
-Obama's continuing connections with Kenya, the homeland of his father, through his support for the candidacy of Raila Odinga, the radical socialist presidential contender who came to power amid Islamist violence and church burnings
-Obama's involvement in the slum-landlord empire of the Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko, who helped to bankroll Obama's initial campaigns and to purchase of Barack and Michelle's dream-home property.
-the background and techniques of the Obama campaign's cult of personality, including the derivation of the words “hope” and change”
-Obama's far-left domestic policy, his controversial votes on abortion, his history of opposition to the Second Amendment, his determination to raise capital-gains taxes, his impractical plan to achieve universal health care, and his radical plan to tax Americans to fund a global-poverty-reduction program
-Obama's naïve, anti-war, anti-nuclear foreign-policy, predicated on the reduction of the military, the eradication of nuclear weapons and an overconfidence in the power of his personality, as if belief in change alone could somehow transform international politics, achieve nuclear-weapons disarmament and withdrawal from Iraq without adverse consequences, for us, for the Iraqis or for Israel.

Meticulously researched and documented, THE OBAMA NATION is the definitive source for information on why and how Barack Obama must be defeated—not by invective and general attacks, but by detailed arguments that are well-researched and fact-based.

Why he must be defeated?
So you think Obama is a super villain?

Also if it does not matter if it is McCain or Obama where are your footnotes on McCain?
You do realize that not one person is in control of what happens in the U.S or the world right?

[Edited by - BigC on 08-24-2008 1:47 PM]

I reposted that from the Amazon.com information on the book, so those are not my own words. I'm just putting the information out there. All we hear is "change" for the better, "change" for this, "change" for that. How do we know to believe these liars?

You're right, not one person is in control of the world, so why should we put our faces in other peoples businesses? Are we the policemen of the world? Am I the only one that wants to see peace and good people in this country? Am I the only one that wants to see a change in the society since we are American's do NOT question these corrupt politicians? Am I the only sane person who wants everyone to love one another in a community that is away from all the killers? Am I the only person who wants to get away from these morons who go drinking last night, get drunk and use their car as a weapon since they're stupid not to handle their own alcohol level?

Your point is more than one person controls the masses of people but you are only pointing at one person. Why make a thread saying, "Obama/McCain -Doesn't Matter," if you aren't going to make a comparison between the two people?

Or why not make a thread about the people that you feel are in control? When you point only to Obama or one person that goes against your ideologies that there are group of people. Especially with example of a book that says things like, "He must be defeated," You must believe what is in the book unless you would have not recommended it. Those are not your words but you do support team. Also you do realize the author of the book that you are reading got famous for writing about John Kerry a person that he felt should be stopped. Now Obama is the new guy that he is making money off of.

Also do you plan on voting?

I plan on writing in Ron Paul, but other than that, I do not feel it's even worth it at this point to write him in because the President is already picked. A masked democracy is not a true democracy. If the people feel like they are making a change, they will stay asleep. People are not making any change "voting" either candidate in.

Also, I could give less than a **** what the book says about him being defeated. Someone asked for information about what I was saying and I had written about the book and decided to post the review that the author wrote. He states it's based on facts that have been researched. Can anyone deny the facts otherwise? Give me proof.

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THE OBAMA NATION Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality

Barack Obama stepped onto the national political stage when the then-Illinois State senator addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Soon after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, author Jerome Corsi began researching Obama's personal and political background.

Scrupulously sourced with more than 600 footnotes, THE OBAMA NATION is the result of that research. By tracing Obama's career and influences from his early years in Hawaii and Indonesia, the beginnings of his political career in Chicago, his voting record in the Illinois legislature, his religious training and his adoption of Christianity through to his recent involvement in Kenyan politics, his political advisors and fundraising associates and his meteoric campaign for president, Jerome Corsi shows that an Obama presidency would, in his words, be “a repeat of the failed extremist politics that have characterized and plagued Democratic Party politics since the late 1960s.”

In this stunning and comprehensive new book, the reader will learn about: -Obama's extensive connections with Islam and radical politics, from his father and step-father's Islamic backgrounds, to his Communist and socialist mentors in Hawaii and Chicago, to his long-term and close associations with former Weather Underground heroes William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn—associations much closer than heretofore revealed by the press
-Barack and Michelle's 20-year-long religious affiliation with the black-liberation theology of former Trinity United Church of Christ Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have always been steeped in a rage first expressed by Franz Fanon , Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X, a rage that Corsi shows has deep meaning for Obama
-Obama's continuing connections with Kenya, the homeland of his father, through his support for the candidacy of Raila Odinga, the radical socialist presidential contender who came to power amid Islamist violence and church burnings
-Obama's involvement in the slum-landlord empire of the Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko, who helped to bankroll Obama's initial campaigns and to purchase of Barack and Michelle's dream-home property.
-the background and techniques of the Obama campaign's cult of personality, including the derivation of the words “hope” and change”
-Obama's far-left domestic policy, his controversial votes on abortion, his history of opposition to the Second Amendment, his determination to raise capital-gains taxes, his impractical plan to achieve universal health care, and his radical plan to tax Americans to fund a global-poverty-reduction program
-Obama's naïve, anti-war, anti-nuclear foreign-policy, predicated on the reduction of the military, the eradication of nuclear weapons and an overconfidence in the power of his personality, as if belief in change alone could somehow transform international politics, achieve nuclear-weapons disarmament and withdrawal from Iraq without adverse consequences, for us, for the Iraqis or for Israel.

Meticulously researched and documented, THE OBAMA NATION is the definitive source for information on why and how Barack Obama must be defeated—not by invective and general attacks, but by detailed arguments that are well-researched and fact-based.

Why he must be defeated?
So you think Obama is a super villain?

Also if it does not matter if it is McCain or Obama where are your footnotes on McCain?
You do realize that not one person is in control of what happens in the U.S or the world right?

[Edited by - BigC on 08-24-2008 1:47 PM]

I reposted that from the Amazon.com information on the book, so those are not my own words. I'm just putting the information out there. All we hear is "change" for the better, "change" for this, "change" for that. How do we know to believe these liars?

You're right, not one person is in control of the world, so why should we put our faces in other peoples businesses? Are we the policemen of the world? Am I the only one that wants to see peace and good people in this country? Am I the only one that wants to see a change in the society since we are American's do NOT question these corrupt politicians? Am I the only sane person who wants everyone to love one another in a community that is away from all the killers? Am I the only person who wants to get away from these morons who go drinking last night, get drunk and use their car as a weapon since they're stupid not to handle their own alcohol level?

Your point is more than one person controls the masses of people but you are only pointing at one person. Why make a thread saying, "Obama/McCain -Doesn't Matter," if you aren't going to make a comparison between the two people?

Or why not make a thread about the people that you feel are in control? When you point only to Obama or one person that goes against your ideologies that there are group of people. Especially with example of a book that says things like, "He must be defeated," You must believe what is in the book unless you would have not recommended it. Those are not your words but you do support team. Also you do realize the author of the book that you are reading got famous for writing about John Kerry a person that he felt should be stopped. Now Obama is the new guy that he is making money off of.

Also do you plan on voting?

I plan on writing in Ron Paul, but other than that, I do not feel it's even worth it at this point to write him in because the President is already picked. A masked democracy is not a true democracy. If the people feel like they are making a change, they will stay asleep. People are not making any change "voting" either candidate in.

Also, I could give less than a **** what the book says about him being defeated. Someone asked for information about what I was saying and I had written about the book and decided to post the review that the author wrote. He states it's based on facts that have been researched. Can anyone deny the facts otherwise? Give me proof.

I still don't understand why you would even bother to put Ron Paul's name on the ballot if you feel the vote does not count. Why vote at all if the outcome is going to be the same? Why not just stay home and watch the Knicks shoot bricks? And if all politicians lie and other people control world won't Ron Paul fit in that category?

Let's stay Ron Paul was the president would you really believe that change was coming when your belief is other people rule the world? Or is Ron Paul that special?

As far as Obama do you feel if he is the president he will be in control or will he be just a figure head? The book that you refer to points only to Obama as the real problem. Just like the same author said before that about Kerry in 2004 and Hilary as a problem.





[Edited by - BigC on 08-25-2008 4:40 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Do you feel (Long island) that there was any difference in the country (or the world actually) under President Clinton's vs. Bush's leadership?