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garyclips
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8/21/2008  4:01 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

And by the way.. Welcome Gary

What's up.
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8/21/2008  4:10 PM
Posted by franco12:

talk about a first post!

I doubt utah would entertain giving up what will likely be a lotto pick.

but given how long it has taken gallo to recover- yes, it sure seems like we made a mistake with the pick. but we won't honestly know until the season starts.

It wasn't so much about Gallo. Its just the use of the sixth pick would of yielded more. By the way, #13 is a lottery pick. And we could of taken Harpring off there hands for Malik, which would help them avoid the lux tax next summer (Boozer,Okur,Millsap,etc)

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8/21/2008  4:21 PM
Posted by garyclips:
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hey gary.. good to see you over here...

I've been monitoring the realgm board since I was banned by Ben B.


You banned? what happened?
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8/21/2008  4:23 PM
Posted by BigRedDog:

How do you know what they did or did not do?? I can't stand these backseat GM's.


Well we know that the Blazers were looking to move up, because they did with the Pacers. In regards to the Jazz, a lot of smoke coming out of Utah is that under no circumstances fat man Miller will pay the lux tax. By taking Harpring off there hands they might be able to resign everyone.
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8/21/2008  4:30 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by garyclips:

[quote]Posted by tkf:

hey gary.. good to see you over here...

I've been monitoring the realgm board since I was banned by Ben B.


You banned? what happened?


I've been monitoring the realgm board since I was banned by Ben B.

You didn't know? That prick likes to pick fights. When I called him a phony, I guess he didn't like it. There's just so much hate from NBA fans for the Knicks and its fans in general.
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8/21/2008  4:33 PM
we all know gallo was a big favor that had to have d'antoni pull some strings to draft him.
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8/21/2008  5:29 PM
Posted by garyclips:
Posted by nyk4ever:

And by the way.. Welcome Gary

What's up.

You're from RealGM?

Just to let you know, there is an impostor on the RealGM board, using my nickname.. it's a different person and that person was banned from this board. Don't associate me with him!

ok, done.
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8/21/2008  6:12 PM
If you can't understand what Gallo is about from all the video and the short Summer League stint then I don't know what to tell you. The guy looked pretty much the same as we saw in all his Euroleague action.

Excellent ball skills for a 6-10 guy, smooth shot, good passing and team oriented play. He's not a banger, he's a scorer and all around solid player. He's not a great defender, but he can defend. He's not a great rebounder, but he can rebound. He's also a really young guy and already highly skilled.

He showed his pedigree in that he at such a young age was a team leader and go to guy, even tho there were grown men on his team. Some saw his only SL game as a poor start strong finish, but if you look closer you can see his maturity in that he didn't just come out firing away. He let the game come to him when he didn't hit early. He looked to set up teammates and moved the ball. He worked hard on D. He didn't back down from a massive guy that was clearly much stronger then him. The guy gives all the right signals.
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8/21/2008  7:10 PM
Posted by nixluva:

If you can't understand what Gallo is about from all the video and the short Summer League stint then I don't know what to tell you. The guy looked pretty much the same as we saw in all his Euroleague action.

Excellent ball skills for a 6-10 guy, smooth shot, good passing and team oriented play. He's not a banger, he's a scorer and all around solid player. He's not a great defender, but he can defend. He's not a great rebounder, but he can rebound. He's also a really young guy and already highly skilled.

He showed his pedigree in that he at such a young age was a team leader and go to guy, even tho there were grown men on his team. Some saw his only SL game as a poor start strong finish, but if you look closer you can see his maturity in that he didn't just come out firing away. He let the game come to him when he didn't hit early. He looked to set up teammates and moved the ball. He worked hard on D. He didn't back down from a massive guy that was clearly much stronger then him. The guy gives all the right signals.

In other words you see the glass as half full. Good for you.
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8/21/2008  7:17 PM
Posted by nixluva:

If you can't understand what Gallo is about from all the video and the short Summer League stint then I don't know what to tell you. The guy looked pretty much the same as we saw in all his Euroleague action.

Excellent ball skills for a 6-10 guy, smooth shot, good passing and team oriented play. He's not a banger, he's a scorer and all around solid player. He's not a great defender, but he can defend. He's not a great rebounder, but he can rebound. He's also a really young guy and already highly skilled.

He showed his pedigree in that he at such a young age was a team leader and go to guy, even tho there were grown men on his team. Some saw his only SL game as a poor start strong finish, but if you look closer you can see his maturity in that he didn't just come out firing away. He let the game come to him when he didn't hit early. He looked to set up teammates and moved the ball. He worked hard on D. He didn't back down from a massive guy that was clearly much stronger then him. The guy gives all the right signals.
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8/21/2008  7:50 PM
Gallo seemed to have a second gear. He was kinda coasting his first game. Feeling out his teamates and probably the culture of what was happening and being said around him. Then bam.....he was locked in. I also got the feeling he didn't know summer league was gonna be so compeditive.

I think when its money time he will be locked in. I'm just hoping this kid likes his nba experience and stays his whole career.......and yeah I hope he's healthy too.
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8/21/2008  7:53 PM
So i'm somehow offbase in my assessment of what we've seen so far from this kid and what the general consensus has been of his abilities? I'm not saying anything outlandish. I didn't say he was gonna be a All Star based on any of this.

I haven't been in "love" with every Knick pick. that's just an exaggeration of positive statements. If I say the kid has a nice jumper, you read into that that I think he's gonna be Alan Houston. Don't put words in other peoples mouths, just stick to making your points and don't try to tell others what they think.

It's my opinion that Gallo is a good prospect and that's been my contention and nothing more. I think he has the kind of skills that "could" translate into him being a very good player, but more importantly he's shown the right mental disposition and has shown that in his career so far. If a US player had shown leadership and go to man skills in the NCAA you'd probably accept that, but since it's Gallo no one wants to recognize that.
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8/21/2008  8:27 PM
Posted by nixluva:

So i'm somehow offbase in my assessment of what we've seen so far from this kid and what the general consensus has been of his abilities? I'm not saying anything outlandish. I didn't say he was gonna be a All Star based on any of this.

I haven't been in "love" with every Knick pick. that's just an exaggeration of positive statements. If I say the kid has a nice jumper, you read into that that I think he's gonna be Alan Houston. Don't put words in other peoples mouths, just stick to making your points and don't try to tell others what they think.

It's my opinion that Gallo is a good prospect and that's been my contention and nothing more. I think he has the kind of skills that "could" translate into him being a very good player, but more importantly he's shown the right mental disposition and has shown that in his career so far. If a US player had shown leadership and go to man skills in the NCAA you'd probably accept that, but since it's Gallo no one wants to recognize that.

A post of contradiction.
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8/21/2008  9:03 PM
Posted by BigRedDog:
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"The gall" was a ny community pick that pleases all those who opposed Isiah's direction in bringing in certain players and for his lack of leadership and indiscretions.

Where do you come off with these accusations?? You have no actual facts to back it up with. If you knew Walshs draft history with Indiana you would know what a bunch of crap you are saying. The year Alford came out everyone wanted Walsh to pick him . It was the " Indiana community pick" that would have pleased everyone. Instead Walsh picked the player HE wanted to pick, the one HE thought would be a better player--Reggie Miller.


Alford a community pick ? ROFL ALL DAY LONG.

Reggie Miller was a no brainer, Alford was a community pick while in college not aT the NBA LEVEL. WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING ?
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8/21/2008  10:55 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by BigRedDog:
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"The gall" was a ny community pick that pleases all those who opposed Isiah's direction in bringing in certain players and for his lack of leadership and indiscretions.

Where do you come off with these accusations?? You have no actual facts to back it up with. If you knew Walshs draft history with Indiana you would know what a bunch of crap you are saying. The year Alford came out everyone wanted Walsh to pick him . It was the " Indiana community pick" that would have pleased everyone. Instead Walsh picked the player HE wanted to pick, the one HE thought would be a better player--Reggie Miller.


Alford a community pick ? ROFL ALL DAY LONG.

Reggie Miller was a no brainer, Alford was a community pick while in college not aT the NBA LEVEL. WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING ?

You know you come across as a know-it -all but you really aren't. Its a shame I have to teach you about basketball history. Heres a small quote , look up other articles.

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/m/miller_reggie/reggie.html

"When the Pacers picked Miller in the 1987 NBA Draft, some Indiana basketball fans were hugely disappointed. The popular pick among fans woudl have been Indiana University star Steve Alford, who had just led the Hoosiers to a 30-4 season and the NCAA Championship.

But Miller soon quieted his critics, becoming a starter in his rookie season "
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8/22/2008  2:35 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by nixluva:

So i'm somehow offbase in my assessment of what we've seen so far from this kid and what the general consensus has been of his abilities? I'm not saying anything outlandish. I didn't say he was gonna be a All Star based on any of this.

I haven't been in "love" with every Knick pick. that's just an exaggeration of positive statements. If I say the kid has a nice jumper, you read into that that I think he's gonna be Alan Houston. Don't put words in other peoples mouths, just stick to making your points and don't try to tell others what they think.

It's my opinion that Gallo is a good prospect and that's been my contention and nothing more. I think he has the kind of skills that "could" translate into him being a very good player, but more importantly he's shown the right mental disposition and has shown that in his career so far. If a US player had shown leadership and go to man skills in the NCAA you'd probably accept that, but since it's Gallo no one wants to recognize that.

A post of contradiction.


Could you explain the "contradiction?" Reasonable minds want to know.
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8/22/2008  5:47 AM
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by playa2:

"The gall" was a ny community pick that pleases all those who opposed Isiah's direction in bringing in certain players and for his lack of leadership and indiscretions.

Where do you come off with these accusations?? You have no actual facts to back it up with. If you knew Walshs draft history with Indiana you would know what a bunch of crap you are saying. The year Alford came out everyone wanted Walsh to pick him . It was the " Indiana community pick" that would have pleased everyone. Instead Walsh picked the player HE wanted to pick, the one HE thought would be a better player--Reggie Miller.


Alford a community pick ? ROFL ALL DAY LONG.

Reggie Miller was a no brainer, Alford was a community pick while in college not aT the NBA LEVEL. WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING ?

You know you come across as a know-it -all but you really aren't. Its a shame I have to teach you about basketball history. Heres a small quote , look up other articles.

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/m/miller_reggie/reggie.html

"When the Pacers picked Miller in the 1987 NBA Draft, some Indiana basketball fans were hugely disappointed. The popular pick among fans woudl have been Indiana University star Steve Alford, who had just led the Hoosiers to a 30-4 season and the NCAA Championship.

But Miller soon quieted his critics, becoming a starter in his rookie season "

That was my point Miller was a no brainer pick, Alford was a scrub at the NBA level man.

They would have fired walsh if he would have chosen slow un-athletic can't get his shot off at the NBA LEVEL steve alford.

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8/22/2008  9:32 AM
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by playa2:
Posted by BigRedDog:
Posted by playa2:

"The gall" was a ny community pick that pleases all those who opposed Isiah's direction in bringing in certain players and for his lack of leadership and indiscretions.

Where do you come off with these accusations?? You have no actual facts to back it up with. If you knew Walshs draft history with Indiana you would know what a bunch of crap you are saying. The year Alford came out everyone wanted Walsh to pick him . It was the " Indiana community pick" that would have pleased everyone. Instead Walsh picked the player HE wanted to pick, the one HE thought would be a better player--Reggie Miller.


Alford a community pick ? ROFL ALL DAY LONG.

Reggie Miller was a no brainer, Alford was a community pick while in college not aT the NBA LEVEL. WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING ?

You know you come across as a know-it -all but you really aren't. Its a shame I have to teach you about basketball history. Heres a small quote , look up other articles.

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/m/miller_reggie/reggie.html

"When the Pacers picked Miller in the 1987 NBA Draft, some Indiana basketball fans were hugely disappointed. The popular pick among fans woudl have been Indiana University star Steve Alford, who had just led the Hoosiers to a 30-4 season and the NCAA Championship.

But Miller soon quieted his critics, becoming a starter in his rookie season "

game set match. I wasn't around when Miller was drafted, but didn't know that he was not a popular pick.
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8/22/2008  11:37 AM
Posted by playa2:

"The gall" was a ny community pick that pleases all those who opposed Isiah's direction in bringing in certain players and for his lack of leadership and indiscretions.

Didn't pretty much everyone oppose Isiah's moves and direction?
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8/22/2008  11:48 AM
This is such an inane argument. The rookies haven't even played yet and we are already knocking and praising GM's for their selections and using some unknown facts and assumptions as reality.
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