Posted by playa2:

Posted by franco12:

Briggs- when you talk about all the hillary votes- what you fail to include is that if she had any decency- she would have bowed out of the election when it was obvious she couldn't win.

To me, she is disqualified since she said she was ready to lead from day one- but she mismanaged her campaign from day one- how would her presidency be any different?

You are bang on my friend !

Hillary showed the country she was a snake who would have continued in the clinton bush regimes that got us into this mess.


All the trash she said about obama, why would he ask her to come into the whitehouse with him ?

She's a nasty, power hungry jerk, no doubt, but Obama needs someone tough to compensate for his (foolish) softie approach. I don't care about the VP's personality. I just want a Democratic president. Clark is still my first choice but she's my 2nd and Biden my third. If Obama's gonna pick another softie who won't fight and attack, then that will be comparable to having two John Kerry's on the ticket.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 08-21-2008 1:35 PM]

Posted by BRIGGS:

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Posted by franco12:

Briggs- when you talk about all the hillary votes- what you fail to include is that if she had any decency- she would have bowed out of the election when it was obvious she couldn't win.



Sorry my man--this game is full of snakes ---you need pitbulls like hillary in your corner

Posted by franco12:

the problem obama has is he is smart- and most americans are afraid of people smarter than themselves.
the man started in perhaps as deep a hole as you can- single white mom, half black, half white- not accepted by either culture- and on welfare if I recall correctly. and he went to and excelled at harvard law school- and on his application, did not indicate his race.

the fact is, he is smarter than 95+ percent of americans- that is why they can't identify with him.

and rather than earn money by taking the private sector route, he tried to help the poor in chicago.

ny grandfather isn't ready to vote for a black man, and my mother- who despite her claim to be a dissaffected hilary supporter, in realty isn't ready to vote for a black man either.
40+ years of civil rights- but there are still large segments of the us population who ultimately are prejudiced.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by EnySpree:

Everything coming out of Obama's mouth sounds better than anything McCain says.

That's because you're an Obama supporter. He's making no progress with independent voters and is roughly tied against a weak opponent.

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by EnySpree:

Everything coming out of Obama's mouth sounds better than anything McCain says.

That's because you're an Obama supporter. He's making no progress with independent voters and is roughly tied against a weak opponent.

I see.

I'm an independant thinker. Am I even allowed to vote?

Posted by Paladin55:


This is a f'd up country when Obama is portrayed as an elitist, while McCain has the millionaire wife, 10 homes, and his wife's jet, which he sometimes uses.

"Yesterday, [John McCain] was asked again what do you think about the economy, he said I think the economy is fundamentally strong," said Obama. "Now this puzzled me. I was confused what he meant. But then there was another interview where somebody asked John McCain how many houses do you have and he said 'I'm not sure. I'll have to check with my staff.' True quote. 'I'm not sure ill have to check with my staff.' So they asked his staff and they said, 'at least four.' At least four. Now think about that. I guess if you think that being rich means you make $5 million and if you don't know how many houses you have then it is not surprising that you think the economy is fundamentally strong. But if you are like me and you've got one house, or if you are like the millions of people struggling now to keep up with your mortgage payments, you might have a different perspective. By the way the answer is John McCain has seven homes."

...

"Some of you saw the Saddleback Forum where [John McCain] was asked what was rich and he said 'I don't know maybe if you make $5 million, $5 million then you are rich,' which I guess means if you are only making $3 million a year you are middle class," said Obama. "I guess that's what he meant. His top economic adviser said the other day that Americans should stop complaining, that they've become a nation of whiners, that all these economic policies we are talking about is a mental recession. That if you just changed your mind you would be ok...."

Posted by BRIGGS:

if he doesn't take her--he wasn't presidential material anyway --- that would mean he is spitting on more than half of the millions of hillary voters. no other vp candidate could come close to hillary and if he cant see that he doesnt deserve it