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martin
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8/13/2008  9:25 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by djsunyc:

walsh comments on it at the bottom of the steve mills article...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/08/12/2008-08-12_steve_mills_power_shrinks_at_garden.html

Yo I ****in hate you

haha - time for another dj is an a s s hole thread?

someone make it start with "Official" and I'll sticky it
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8/13/2008  10:14 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by djsunyc:

walsh comments on it at the bottom of the steve mills article...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/08/12/2008-08-12_steve_mills_power_shrinks_at_garden.html

Yo I ****in hate you

haha - time for another dj is an a s s hole thread?

Ban DJ.
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8/13/2008  10:16 AM
Obviously we get less talent, but technically, it can somewhat balance our frontcourt, considering that Darko is a shotblocker and Curry isn't. At least we know Darko has a meanstreak also. I hope this goes down.
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8/13/2008  10:18 AM
PS: I'm giving DJ a real bad armbar the next time we play basketball for what he just did.
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8/13/2008  11:41 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Obviously we get less talent, but technically, it can somewhat balance our frontcourt, considering that Darko is a shotblocker and Curry isn't. At least we know Darko has a meanstreak also. I hope this goes down.

That tirade he did in those Euro games last year was fantastic, was it not?
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8/13/2008  12:13 PM
please let this happen! darko is actually a decent shotblocker.
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8/13/2008  12:22 PM
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8/13/2008  12:26 PM
Here's the trade that needs to happen:

New York Knicks

Incoming Players
Javaris Crittenton
Salary: $1,381,560 Years Remaining: 1

Marko Jaric
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 3

Darko Milicic
Salary: $7,020,000 Years Remaining: 2


Outgoing Players: Zach Randolph, Nate Robinson, Mardy CollinsMemphis Grizzlies

Incoming Players
Zach Randolph
Salary: $14,666,667 Years Remaining: 3

Nate Robinson
Salary: $2,020,179 Years Remaining: 1

Mardy Collins
Salary: $1,034,760 Years Remaining: 1

Leaves us with (avg minutes at that position):

PG: Duhon 30 /Crittenden 18
SG: Crawford 38 /Jaric 10
SF: Chandler 28 /Gallinari 20 + the two bums (Q/JJ2)
PF: Lee 28 /Darko 15 / Gallinari 5
C: Curry 25 /Darko 15 / Lee 8 and I'd like to see Paul Miller make the team

Assumes: JJ1, Marbury get deleted


Outgoing Players: Javaris Crittenton, Marko Jaric, Darko Milicic
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8/13/2008  12:34 PM
Meanwhile, I think Memphis improves as well, so i don't think is just a Knick friendly deal:

PG: Conley/Lowry/Mardy
SG: Mayo/Nate
SF: Gay/Warrick
PF: Zach/Arthur/Antoine Walker
C: Gasol
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8/13/2008  12:47 PM
Interesting that both players are Europeans....Darko and Marko. Maybe D'Antoni and other European asst coaches are looking for Europeans? They play more team Basketball.

But Jaric's contract goes thru 2010/11 for $7.6 million.
Darko's contract ends in 2009/10 for $7.5 million but he is the one we would want to keep.

Memphis has a bunch of young players, especially guards (Mike Conley, OJ Mayo, Crittenden, Lowry)So they probably want to get rid of Jaric's contract. But they also have Antoine Walker $9.3 million. I'm sure they would like to trade him if they do a Zach deal.

My guess is:
Zach, JJ2 (and maybe Mardy for salary balance) for Darko, Marko, Antoine W.

Not that this is great for us, but it does help to shed some salary. And Darko is the type of Center that we need. And moving MArko Jaric at $7.6million in 2010/11 is easier than Zach at $17 million in 2010/11.

[Edited by - markji on 08-13-2008 11:49 AM]
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8/13/2008  1:03 PM
So if this trade goes down, how stupid was it to simply waive Balkman?

If Memphis gets Zach in this type of deal, they will be pretty damn good, btw.

I'd like to get our hands on Hakim Warrick if possible, but darko, jaric and javaris is fine by me.
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8/13/2008  1:19 PM
If this trade goes down I will be extremely pleased with what Walsh has done so far.

The hiring of D'Antoni. The drafting of Gallo. Small moves like Duhon, and getting some value for Balkman.

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8/13/2008  1:36 PM
u consider a 2nd round pick value for balkman?
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8/13/2008  1:44 PM
we didn't even get a 2nd rounder for Balkman, we basically bought that pick... they got rid of Balk for a roster spot, plain & simple.
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8/13/2008  1:45 PM
Balkman sucks, we shouldnt have expected to get anything back for him.
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8/13/2008  2:24 PM
Make it happen is what I say.....

If they trade Zach and get back Antoine Walker, yet they unload another douche bag like jared or Q? Come on man regardless we do well......

Antoine Walker may be washed up now, but the Knicks currently don't have some bogus 7% body fat rule so Walker could very well come in and kick mighty ass. Or at least provide vet leadership along with another above average ball handler to run in D'antoni's system.

Fuck it man lets do this. We keep Lee and start him @ the 4. If he truly does put up something like 12 and 14 then cha-ching......Let Gallo grow the right way, start Chandler, Darko will get his minutes behind lazy Curry and behind Lee.

Lets not under estimate what Jaric brings. He and Walker bring major leadership. Jaric lead his national team. Walker was a captain in Boston in some great years, plus he stepped up big time to help Miami when they needed him that championship year.

You need good quality vets that can do more than talk **** and be the "anonomous player" in the papers like Malik Rose.

Whatever Jared supposedly brings on offense, Walker is way better at it. Jared isn't even that good on defense cuz he allows guys 6'5" just shoot it right in his face. He's a bum.

Yeah walker and Jaric will come off the bench. Jaric will help Jamal's game big time. Just being in practice with him and talking about the game. Walker could be a nice influence on Chandler too. Walker is a big 3 himself that at his peak was doing 20/10. And just about 5 assists......Walker can help Chandler get better.

I'm hyped about this idea. This is exactly what I want to do for my Knicks. after the Knicks aquire Walker, Darko, jaric and possibly Javaris too, they don't hesitate and just waive Malik, Marbs and Jerome.

I haven't hit the trade checker yet, but check the roster bitches:

Lee/Walker/Darko/Gallo
Chandler/Walker/Lee/Gallo
Curry/Darko/Gallo
Duhon/ Jaric/ Javaris
Craw/ Jaric/ roberson

I guess Q can fit in there somewhere......but I'd rather he not.

Cha-ching!

Does this team win an NBA championship? No. Can they make the playoffs? Probably no.

Can this team scrap? Can they relate to one another? Is their a proper mix of talent and experience? Is the depth evened out? Are are the crazy people, phonies, and cry babies gone? Hell mutha****in yes!

Oh yeah baby! Do this trade Brother Donnie. Layeth the hands on this roster and annoint them with the powers bestowed upon you by the grace of God. Can I get a witness my brothers and sisters of the UK nation?
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8/13/2008  3:00 PM
Antoine Walker may be washed up now, but the Knicks currently don't have some bogus 7% body fat rule so Walker could very well come in and kick mighty ass. Or at least provide vet leadership along with another above average ball handler to run in D'antoni's system.

No, we actually do have a fat rule %. They upped it to 70% when we got curry, and then upped it to 170% when we got zach.
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8/13/2008  4:23 PM
I would be very happy with this trade. Personally I don't like Crittenton, but I really don't know too much about him. Randolph for Darko and Jaric is a little low for me but acceptable(I would lie a top 15 or 20 protected, but so be it).

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8/13/2008  4:55 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Balkman sucks, we shouldnt have expected to get anything back for him.

who would u rather have on this roster, Balkman or Jefferies?
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8/13/2008  5:53 PM
Posted by joec32033:

I would be very happy with this trade. Personally I don't like Crittenton, but I really don't know too much about him. Randolph for Darko and Jaric is a little low for me but acceptable(I would lie a top 15 or 20 protected, but so be it).

Well what don't you like about him?

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