Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I'm hearing a Zach, Lee and Nate package coming along...

What? Where? Please expand!

No team wants both Zach and Lee. That's way too much money to put into the PF position (once Lee gets an extension).

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

Posted by Bonn1997:

No team wants both Zach and Lee. That's way too much money to put into the PF position (once Lee gets an extension).

So I can laugh at you when it happens?

Spit it out Cookd!

Posted by Bippity10:

We were one of the worst organizations for the last 7 years and particularly during the past 3. It will take time to reshape this roster.

So we're working on getting rid of all our guys on rookie scales? Adding garbage like Duhon and Roberson?

Yeah, not quite the roster reshaping moves any of us dreamed about is it?

These have all been absolute GARBAGE moves so far. They don't help now, they don't help later, they don't tear down the roster, they are NOTHING GARBAGE MOVES!

Making Duhon a rich man, signing Roberson who is complete trash, trading Balkman for garbage we're rumored to waive?

LOL!!!!!! Yeah, you go Walsh, re-shape that roster!!!

Three pitiful useless moves.

Couldn't tell Malik or Jerome or TruckBury to pack their bags? Had to trade Balkman for dog shyt that we (are going to waive)?

Yeah, okay, patience lol...

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by Bippity10:

We were one of the worst organizations for the last 7 years and particularly during the past 3. It will take time to reshape this roster.

So we're working on getting rid of all our guys on rookie scales? Adding garbage like Duhon and Roberson?

Yeah, not quite the roster reshaping moves any of us dreamed about is it?

These have all been absolute GARBAGE moves so far. They don't help now, they don't help later, they don't tear down the roster, they are NOTHING GARBAGE MOVES!

Making Duhon a rich man, signing Roberson who is complete trash, trading Balkman for garbage we're rumored to waive?

LOL!!!!!! Yeah, you go Walsh, re-shape that roster!!!

Three pitiful useless moves.

Couldn't tell Malik or Jerome or TruckBury to pack their bags? Had to trade Balkman for dog shyt that we (are going to waive)?

Yeah, okay, patience lol...

The team is untradeable. Nothing is happening in one summer(that hasn't even finished yet BTW) so relax.

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by Bippity10:

We were one of the worst organizations for the last 7 years and particularly during the past 3. It will take time to reshape this roster.

So we're working on getting rid of all our guys on rookie scales? Adding garbage like Duhon and Roberson?

Yeah, not quite the roster reshaping moves any of us dreamed about is it?

These have all been absolute GARBAGE moves so far. They don't help now, they don't help later, they don't tear down the roster, they are NOTHING GARBAGE MOVES!

Making Duhon a rich man, signing Roberson who is complete trash, trading Balkman for garbage we're rumored to waive?

LOL!!!!!! Yeah, you go Walsh, re-shape that roster!!!

Three pitiful useless moves.

Couldn't tell Malik or Jerome or TruckBury to pack their bags? Had to trade Balkman for dog shyt that we (are going to waive)?

Yeah, okay, patience lol...

I'll give them this. If the underlying theme is were just eliminating everything that has to do with this team because it's been a bad team and maybe some of the so-called good parts don't really fit for the system----then ridding ourselves of literally all of the exsisting players is a reasonable avenue to go. Now why did we spend 12mm on Duhon? Im not sure. If worst comes to worse and we have cap space for 2-3 major FA in 2010 --it's better than following the course of what was going on here. Are they putting too many eggs in one basket for 2010? Thats another question----I guess we'll have to sit back and find out.

Posted by BRIGGS:

I'll give them this. If the underlying theme is were just eliminating everything that has to do with this team because it's been a bad team and maybe some of the so-called good parts don't really fit for the system----then ridding ourselves of literally all of the exsisting players is a reasonable avenue to go. Now why did we spend 12mm on Duhon? Im not sure. If worst comes to worse and we have cap space for 2-3 major FA in 2010 --it's better than following the course of what was going on here. Are they putting too many eggs in one basket for 2010? Thats another question----I guess we'll have to sit back and find out.

Yeah, one would hope in the coming days or weeks that the moves make sense....and none of them are damaging moves one way or another...but they are just plain unneeded moves. We didn't need Roberson or Duhon and we didn't need to make Balkman go away when he could be better used to facilitate a trade to make our "real garbage" go away in trade. They're just pointless moves no matter how you try to look at them.

Posted by nixluva:

The summer isn't even over yet and already people are up on arms about the small moves that have been made so far. Duhon is a solid and capable NBA vet and who cares what he's being paid over the next 2 yrs? Balkman was a spare part and not a guy who figured into what Mike is gonna do, so why not use him to make a deal? None of the players we've added including Roberson are long term cap stranglers, so in the end we haven't done anything to harm the target date.

As for the teams improvement in the short term, we'll have to wait a bit longer to see what further moves can be made. Hopefully we'll go into this season with a roster that makes a bit more sense for the style of play and will allow for more playing time for our young studs.

No, I don't see many people up in arms but the moves are utterly pointless. They don't solve anything at all any which way are the signings are unneeded. 96 minutes at the 1/2 and we had Q, Craw, Nate, Mardy, Marbs - and even spot at the 2 you got Chandler, Balkman, JJ2... and we needed Roberson (who is utter chucking trash) and Duhon (who no matter what his a/to ratio is he is utter garbage)...???

No, we didn't.

All three roster moves have been utterly pointless. They solved nor helped a single thing.

Needed cap space? Make that Randolph trade happen.
Needed roster space? Don't sign Duhon/Roberson... and you can get rid of Marbury/Malik/James.

So, again, they're all pointless trades no matter how you slice it.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Cosmic:

Posted by Bippity10:

We were one of the worst organizations for the last 7 years and particularly during the past 3. It will take time to reshape this roster.

So we're working on getting rid of all our guys on rookie scales? Adding garbage like Duhon and Roberson?

Yeah, not quite the roster reshaping moves any of us dreamed about is it?

These have all been absolute GARBAGE moves so far. They don't help now, they don't help later, they don't tear down the roster, they are NOTHING GARBAGE MOVES!

Making Duhon a rich man, signing Roberson who is complete trash, trading Balkman for garbage we're rumored to waive?

LOL!!!!!! Yeah, you go Walsh, re-shape that roster!!!

Three pitiful useless moves.

Couldn't tell Malik or Jerome or TruckBury to pack their bags? Had to trade Balkman for dog shyt that we (are going to waive)?

Yeah, okay, patience lol...

I'll give them this. If the underlying theme is were just eliminating everything that has to do with this team because it's been a bad team and maybe some of the so-called good parts don't really fit for the system----then ridding ourselves of literally all of the exsisting players is a reasonable avenue to go. Now why did we spend 12mm on Duhon? Im not sure. If worst comes to worse and we have cap space for 2-3 major FA in 2010 --it's better than following the course of what was going on here. Are they putting too many eggs in one basket for 2010? Thats another question----I guess we'll have to sit back and find out.

I will tell you exactly why... he plays the right way. He shares the ball, plays hard and defends. Its a culture move. Surely you can see that?

This Duhon hysteria is borderline crazy. Duhon is the kind of guy you sign to a short term contract when you are REBUILDING. We as fans refuse to think we are. He plays hard on the court and helps us change our culture. Plus, most likely he is a back-up at best two years from now.

I'm pretty sure these guys looked at the pool of PG's and said there is noone that can take us to the next generation of Knicks without overspending. Let's try a stopgap. End of story.

Posted by Bippity10:

I can guarantee that if you look at the moves in a vaccuum during the first few months of Dantoni and Walsh's tenure they won't make sense. If they still aren't making sense a year from now than complain. But right now, it doesn't make sense. Let the two guys at least try to implement a plan before we kill them.

What if it comes out in the paper that Balkman was disliked by his teammates. Would it make sense then. Maybe Dantoni doesn't see a fit for him on his team and demand was low. Would that make sense. Maybe they are positioning the roster for a future trade. Would that also make sense. Again, a year from now, complain. But after 7 years of nonsense if you are expecting big deals this early in the game then you are probably stuck in the Isiah Thomas/Layden mentality. This will be a looooooong PROCESS for us.

I'm not looking to kill them over it but they just seem like unneeded moves that accomplish little to nothing so far. I'm willing to give this team until February 2010 to prove it's heading in the right direction but again - seemingly unneeded moves so far.

fishmike


I will tell you exactly why... he plays the right way. He shares the ball, plays hard and defends. Its a culture move. Surely you can see that?

Duhon stinks, man. Want a culture move? Buy out Marbury. Duhon doesn't change any culture around here.

TMS

y'all think it made no sense for the Knicks who were in need of a PG to sign Duhon to 2 years at $12 mil but u think the Pistons made a sensible move in signing Kwame Brown to 2 years at $8 mil when they didn't even need another big? that's laughable.

Nobody cares about the Pistons and Kwame Brown. At least I don't. Yet just because another team makes a weird move it doesn't make our own any more palatable.

Posted by Cosmic:

I'm not looking to kill them over it but they just seem like unneeded moves that accomplish little to nothing so far.

sure ur not.

Posted by Cosmic:
So we're working on getting rid of all our guys on rookie scales? Adding garbage like Duhon and Roberson?

Yeah, not quite the roster reshaping moves any of us dreamed about is it?

These have all been absolute GARBAGE moves so far. They don't help now, they don't help later, they don't tear down the roster, they are NOTHING GARBAGE MOVES!