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nixluva
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7/17/2008  11:11 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I don't want to get too amped up about Gallo yet, since I've only seen him in SL, although so far I like what I see.

I like the fact that he's fearless, I like the fact that he's got a good handle, I like the fact that he's a righty who likes to go left, I like the fact he's got a good motor and I like the fact that he's got a PURE jumpshot.

I like what I see so far, but that was just one measly SL game, I wanna see it a real game.

I'm not worried. From what i've seen, he's too skilled not to succeed in this league. Guys that can shoot and penetrate have a much greater chance for success. Add to that his ball handling at his size and that gives him an advantage. He's not slow like some have tried to portray, nor does he have stiff legs. I think he's got everything he needs to succeed. I want to see him grow and develop this season. I want to see him get a lot of minutes, cuz that will speed up his development.

We haven't had a prospect with his skills, size and BB IQ in a long time and that makes me anxious to see him in real games.
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7/17/2008  11:19 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I don't want to get too amped up about Gallo yet, since I've only seen him in SL, although so far I like what I see.

I like the fact that he's fearless, I like the fact that he's got a good handle, I like the fact that he's a righty who likes to go left, I like the fact he's got a good motor and I like the fact that he's got a PURE jumpshot.

I like what I see so far, but that was just one measly SL game, I wanna see it a real game.

I'm not worried. From what i've seen, he's too skilled not to succeed in this league. Guys that can shoot and penetrate have a much greater chance for success. Add to that his ball handling at his size and that gives him an advantage. He's not slow like some have tried to portray, nor does he have stiff legs. I think he's got everything he needs to succeed. I want to see him grow and develop this season. I want to see him get a lot of minutes, cuz that will speed up his development.

We haven't had a prospect with his skills, size and BB IQ in a long time and that makes me anxious to see him in real games.

Agreed, Nix. Guys like Gallo who have a pure jumper cannot be absolute flops. He's not as raw as some people portrayed him to be either, because he actually has a jumpshot and fluidity/finesse in his movements. And especially in D'antoni's offense, his shooting opportunities will come a dime a dozen, the only question will be its effectiveness. I never really understood all of the "stiff legs" BS, it was mainly something Isles kept harping on. Guys like Kevin Love, Lopez twins, Glen Davis have stiff legs IMO. Someone like Gallo who can run the court like a deer and pull up for a shot clearly doesn't need to worry about stiff legs. Last but not least, we seriously needed a high IQ player, whether a rookie or veteran. Hopefully this trend will continue.
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7/17/2008  11:21 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I'm not worried. From what i've seen, he's too skilled not to succeed in this league. Guys that can shoot and penetrate have a much greater chance for success. Add to that his ball handling at his size and that gives him an advantage. He's not slow like some have tried to portray, nor does he have stiff legs. I think he's got everything he needs to succeed. I want to see him grow and develop this season. I want to see him get a lot of minutes, cuz that will speed up his development.

We haven't had a prospect with his skills, size and BB IQ in a long time and that makes me anxious to see him in real games.

Agree with everything you said Nix. I don't wanna call him a shoe-in to be successful though, too many things can happen trying to translate into the NBA. So far so good though, he's got a great foundation and really thats all that you can ask for.

Not to mention the fact that he'll be playing in a system geared to players who are smart, good passers and have a great jumper, which are all things Gallo truly has. It'll be fun to watch.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-17-2008 11:23 PM]
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7/17/2008  11:23 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by nixluva:

I'm not worried. From what i've seen, he's too skilled not to succeed in this league. Guys that can shoot and penetrate have a much greater chance for success. Add to that his ball handling at his size and that gives him an advantage. He's not slow like some have tried to portray, nor does he have stiff legs. I think he's got everything he needs to succeed. I want to see him grow and develop this season. I want to see him get a lot of minutes, cuz that will speed up his development.

We haven't had a prospect with his skills, size and BB IQ in a long time and that makes me anxious to see him in real games.

Agree with everything you said Nix. I don't wanna call him to be successful though, too many things can happen trying to translate into the NBA. So far so good though, he's got a great foundation and really thats all that you can ask for.

Not to mention the fact that he'll be playing in a system geared to players who are smart, good passers and have a great jumper, which are all things Gallo truly has. It'll be fun to watch.

I'm just worried about the defense. I know we don't have any defensive minded players now besides Duhon, but I'll be happy if this is something Walsh wants to build on as well while maintaining skilled shooters who can run.
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7/17/2008  11:23 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by nyk4ever:

I don't want to get too amped up about Gallo yet, since I've only seen him in SL, although so far I like what I see.

I like the fact that he's fearless, I like the fact that he's got a good handle, I like the fact that he's a righty who likes to go left, I like the fact he's got a good motor and I like the fact that he's got a PURE jumpshot.

I like what I see so far, but that was just one measly SL game, I wanna see it a real game.

I'm not worried. From what i've seen, he's too skilled not to succeed in this league. Guys that can shoot and penetrate have a much greater chance for success. Add to that his ball handling at his size and that gives him an advantage. He's not slow like some have tried to portray, nor does he have stiff legs. I think he's got everything he needs to succeed. I want to see him grow and develop this season. I want to see him get a lot of minutes, cuz that will speed up his development.

We haven't had a prospect with his skills, size and BB IQ in a long time and that makes me anxious to see him in real games.


I agree, with his size and skillset, one can only wonder how good he is going to be... He also as you said seems to have a high BB IQ, I can't wait for the season to start...
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7/17/2008  11:39 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by nixluva:

I'm not worried. From what i've seen, he's too skilled not to succeed in this league. Guys that can shoot and penetrate have a much greater chance for success. Add to that his ball handling at his size and that gives him an advantage. He's not slow like some have tried to portray, nor does he have stiff legs. I think he's got everything he needs to succeed. I want to see him grow and develop this season. I want to see him get a lot of minutes, cuz that will speed up his development.

We haven't had a prospect with his skills, size and BB IQ in a long time and that makes me anxious to see him in real games.

Agree with everything you said Nix. I don't wanna call him to be successful though, too many things can happen trying to translate into the NBA. So far so good though, he's got a great foundation and really thats all that you can ask for.

Not to mention the fact that he'll be playing in a system geared to players who are smart, good passers and have a great jumper, which are all things Gallo truly has. It'll be fun to watch.

I'm just worried about the defense. I know we don't have any defensive minded players now besides Duhon, but I'll be happy if this is something Walsh wants to build on as well while maintaining skilled shooters who can run.

Actually you're selling the team short. Chandler, Balkman, Collins and Lee do try to defend. They give max effort and I fully expect they'll play even harder for Mike.
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7/18/2008  1:15 AM
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His 3 pt shooting will be just be fine- it is not something you should worry about.

He does have a postup game from what I saw in all those YouTube clips, but it is not as developed as his jumper and driving. Don't know if he has had a lot of experience in posting up against big guys, because a lot of European teams seem to have guarded him with shooting guards, but lets face it- with the way he can handle the ball, he will be putting up shots off the dribble and driving on a lot of the bigger men who cover him, and only posting against the little guys.

Yup- he needs to get stronger, but some of that is simply a lack of physical maturity at this point. If he was coming into the league at 22 or 23 (like Bird did), his strength would not be as much of an issue.

If he does eventually become a PF, his rebounding, especially on the defensive end, may be an issue. Wonder if his rebounding will ever get above 8 RPG? As he gets stronger, I assume he will become a better defensive rebounder. He can't be pushed around if he has established block-out positioning, though, which I recall happening the other day.

The injury, however slight, was a bummer.

[Edited by - Paladin55 on 07-17-2008 5:28 PM]

I still think the he might have to work on hit 3 because it is an adjustment. The NBA range is further out plus a man will be in his face. Many people can hit the 3 in college but can't in the NBA. Not saying he will have big problems but it is something you have to work on. Kenny Anderson use to be mr 3 pointer then he came to the NBA and could not adjust. The use to call him and Dennis Scott the 3 triple threat.

As far as his postup moves, he has to add strength in order to be successful unless players will push him out of the box. The powerforward position is one of the most stacked position in the game. It's not easy to post up players.

I'm not worried about him getting his 3 off for a few reasons:
First two things are that he has a quick release and he releases it very high up (much harder to block).
He has that move where he goes into the player then fades back - That is going to be near impossible for big 4's to defend.
His form is just perfect, honestly, just effortless.

His thing will be, as others said, getting stronger and defending. I think on the offensive side he will be mostly ok, minus strength issues (but he appears to combine finess/intelligence with being agressive ;)

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7/18/2008  5:48 AM
Posted by nixluva:


Actually you're selling the team short. Chandler, Balkman, Collins and Lee do try to defend. They give max effort and I fully expect they'll play even harder for Mike.

And Chandler, Balkman and Collins have some success at it.

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7/18/2008  5:51 AM
Regarding Gallo's shot, he's already good at the long 2 - basically the international 3. It may take him a few months or a season to extend his range to the nba 3.

The things I like about Gallo's game at this point are
1) His shot
2) His ball handling
3) His passing
4) His intelligence
5) His courage

The things I don't like about Gallo's game at this point are
1) His defense
2) His rebounding (assuming he's a 4)
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7/18/2008  6:13 AM
Posted by Ira:

Regarding Gallo's shot, he's already good at the long 2 - basically the international 3. It may take him a few months or a season to extend his range to the nba 3.

The things I like about Gallo's game at this point are
1) His shot
2) His ball handling
3) His passing
4) His intelligence
5) His courage

The things I don't like about Gallo's game at this point are
1) His defense
2) His rebounding (assuming he's a 4)

How about his durability at 19 yrs of age ?

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7/18/2008  8:03 AM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by Ira:

Regarding Gallo's shot, he's already good at the long 2 - basically the international 3. It may take him a few months or a season to extend his range to the nba 3.

The things I like about Gallo's game at this point are
1) His shot
2) His ball handling
3) His passing
4) His intelligence
5) His courage

The things I don't like about Gallo's game at this point are
1) His defense
2) His rebounding (assuming he's a 4)

How about his durability at 19 yrs of age ?
who says he is not durable? He said if these were regular season games he would be playing. He got drilled by a 320 pound man and finished the game with no issues. It was precautionary. Man your really fishing

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7/18/2008  11:33 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by nixluva:

I'm not worried. From what i've seen, he's too skilled not to succeed in this league. Guys that can shoot and penetrate have a much greater chance for success. Add to that his ball handling at his size and that gives him an advantage. He's not slow like some have tried to portray, nor does he have stiff legs. I think he's got everything he needs to succeed. I want to see him grow and develop this season. I want to see him get a lot of minutes, cuz that will speed up his development.

We haven't had a prospect with his skills, size and BB IQ in a long time and that makes me anxious to see him in real games.

Agree with everything you said Nix. I don't wanna call him to be successful though, too many things can happen trying to translate into the NBA. So far so good though, he's got a great foundation and really thats all that you can ask for.

Not to mention the fact that he'll be playing in a system geared to players who are smart, good passers and have a great jumper, which are all things Gallo truly has. It'll be fun to watch.

I'm just worried about the defense. I know we don't have any defensive minded players now besides Duhon, but I'll be happy if this is something Walsh wants to build on as well while maintaining skilled shooters who can run.

Actually you're selling the team short. Chandler, Balkman, Collins and Lee do try to defend. They give max effort and I fully expect they'll play even harder for Mike.

Collins probably won't even make the roster and probably won't get any burn even if he did. Balkman most likely won't get much burn either. Chandler is going to get major mins and Richardson is going to bump Balk because (I don't want to say he can shoot) he has a better chance of hitting the 3.

It almost impossible to be a good defensive team without a strong defensive big man. We are to limited up front with Randolph & Curry on the defensive end to make Chandler, Lee, Nate, & Duhons hustle pay off.
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7/18/2008  7:48 PM
He got drilled by a 320 pound man

How do you know about his personal life?

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7/18/2008  8:15 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by nixluva:

I'm not worried. From what i've seen, he's too skilled not to succeed in this league. Guys that can shoot and penetrate have a much greater chance for success. Add to that his ball handling at his size and that gives him an advantage. He's not slow like some have tried to portray, nor does he have stiff legs. I think he's got everything he needs to succeed. I want to see him grow and develop this season. I want to see him get a lot of minutes, cuz that will speed up his development.

We haven't had a prospect with his skills, size and BB IQ in a long time and that makes me anxious to see him in real games.

Agree with everything you said Nix. I don't wanna call him to be successful though, too many things can happen trying to translate into the NBA. So far so good though, he's got a great foundation and really thats all that you can ask for.

Not to mention the fact that he'll be playing in a system geared to players who are smart, good passers and have a great jumper, which are all things Gallo truly has. It'll be fun to watch.

I'm just worried about the defense. I know we don't have any defensive minded players now besides Duhon, but I'll be happy if this is something Walsh wants to build on as well while maintaining skilled shooters who can run.

Actually you're selling the team short. Chandler, Balkman, Collins and Lee do try to defend. They give max effort and I fully expect they'll play even harder for Mike.

Your absolutely right Nix. Look for the youngens to put out this year.
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7/18/2008  8:17 PM
Posted by Ira:
Posted by nixluva:


Actually you're selling the team short. Chandler, Balkman, Collins and Lee do try to defend. They give max effort and I fully expect they'll play even harder for Mike.

And Chandler, Balkman and Collins have some success at it.

Collins particularly was brought in as a big defensive minded guard. I still think he can develop into one, if given some minutes. We know we're going to have a lot of fire power, and the more D we can get from this team, then the better we'll be.
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7/18/2008  8:18 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by Ira:

Regarding Gallo's shot, he's already good at the long 2 - basically the international 3. It may take him a few months or a season to extend his range to the nba 3.

The things I like about Gallo's game at this point are
1) His shot
2) His ball handling
3) His passing
4) His intelligence
5) His courage

The things I don't like about Gallo's game at this point are
1) His defense
2) His rebounding (assuming he's a 4)

How about his durability at 19 yrs of age ?

Damn' that's right. He's only 19! Wow!
I'll never trust this' team again.
Hey' I really like Gallinari's game

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