Posted by TMS:

49, i absolutely agree, which is why i find it so puzzling that some Yankee fans lay all this blame on ARod for not being able to carry the entire load on his shoulders when it's been proven that the teams of the past won when everyone made their own contributions, & then bring up names like Charlie Hayes & Scott Brosius as if those guys were ever able to carry the load in any capacity... yeah, Brosh got clutch hits for us in the playoffs which sets him apart from ARod, but w/o ARod the team most likely doesn't even make the playoffs the past few years to begin with... last time i checked guys like Jeter, Jorge, Matsui & Giambi have not pulled their share in the postseason either the past few years, which is a huge part of why the team hasn't been able to make it past the 1st round in successive seasons... also the fact that our starting pitching has let us down as well & we've had some imlosions late in games from the bullpen... i'm not absolving ARod of all blame, he played a big role in it too, but i gotta laugh at fans who wanna single him out as if everyone else has been doing their jobs otherwise since he got here during the playoffs.

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Posted by sebstar:

Posted by TMS:

49, i absolutely agree, which is why i find it so puzzling that some Yankee fans lay all this blame on ARod for not being able to carry the entire load on his shoulders when it's been proven that the teams of the past won when everyone made their own contributions, & then bring up names like Charlie Hayes & Scott Brosius as if those guys were ever able to carry the load in any capacity... yeah, Brosh got clutch hits for us in the playoffs which sets him apart from ARod, but w/o ARod the team most likely doesn't even make the playoffs the past few years to begin with... last time i checked guys like Jeter, Jorge, Matsui & Giambi have not pulled their share in the postseason either the past few years, which is a huge part of why the team hasn't been able to make it past the 1st round in successive seasons... also the fact that our starting pitching has let us down as well & we've had some imlosions late in games from the bullpen... i'm not absolving ARod of all blame, he played a big role in it too, but i gotta laugh at fans who wanna single him out as if everyone else has been doing their jobs otherwise since he got here during the playoffs.

I dont get your objections, my whole point is that we won championships without having to have a hall of famer at third, but by just fielding a better, more complete, and certainly more clutch team.

Thats my point, instead of dumping 25 million on one player, a choker at that, why not use that money in on the mound and in the pen. The remaining money could be used towards finding a decent third baseman.

I guess its merely a coincidence that with A-Rod "leading us" we were on the receiving end of the worst collapse in playoff history.

Infected.

unique thing about the yanks is that even if they did dump $25 mil on arod, that wouldn't deter them from spending more money on other guys. problem is that cashman has spent money on what turned out to be the wrong guys. but hopefully that changes in another year or two.

Posted by sebstar:
I always go back to that Boston '04 choke job and think about how if A-Rod would have just been able to hit a sac fly we would have won that game in Boston that Mariano eventually blew.

Infected.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by TMS:

why does a team w/Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Jason Giambi, Bobby Abreu, Hideki Matsui, Robbie Cano & Johnny Damon all in the lineup have to "rely" on ARod as you put it to carry the load? this is the mentality that i don't get at all... u wanna put the blame on ARod's shoulders for not coming through yet completely ignore the fact that none of those other guys have come through for us either in the past several years in postseason play.

i understand the argument that you might think the $25 mil would be better utilized on 2 or 3 other players rather than just 1, but u gotta let go of this whole notion that it's ARod's fault we've been underperforming... none of these guys have done a good job of hitting in the clutch of late.

All A-Rod had to do was hit a sac fly. You could have probably done it, if asked.

We'll just agree to disagree, I can see we're not seeing eye-to-eye, but I will say that a guy who makes the sort of contractual demands that he does is not just "one of the guys" when it comes to performance, especially in the playoffs. Agreed that Giambi hasnt been much better.

I personally think he's the worst thing that has happened to this franchise in my lifetime.