Is funny that in half of Lee's minutes Turiaf has more assists, yet people say Lee has good passing skills, and its even more funny people defending Lee's jumpshot, lol. Anyway, they are just average if not a bit mediocre in both things, is not as if that makes the difference between the two.
My point is I dont care that much about the stats in role/bench players, I just see Turiaf as a way more eficient player for a team and I explained it above. I dont want to use this topic to talk bad about Lee or his weakness, so stop this thing about "inverse of homerism", because I could say you belong to the "constantly overrating David Lee" plague.
If Turiaf can be taken for 4 million $ per year, then Lee is definately NOT worth 8 million $ a year... Oh, well, I forgot we just paid 6 for Duhon (6 for Jeffries, 6 for Jerome, etc)... maybe that should change my mind.

Posted by DarkKnicks:

Is funny that in half of Lee's minutes Turiaf has more assists, yet people say Lee has good passing skills, and its even more funny people defending Lee's jumpshot, lol. Anyway, they are just average if not a bit mediocre in both things, is not as if that makes the difference between the two.
My point is I dont care that much about the stats in role/bench players, I just see Turiaf as a way more eficient player for a team and I explained it above. I dont want to use this topic to talk bad about Lee or his weakness, so stop this thing about "inverse of homerism", because I could say you belong to the "constantly overrating David Lee" plague.
If Turiaf can be taken for 4 million $ per year, then Lee is definately NOT worth 8 million $ a year... Oh, well, I forgot we just paid 6 for Duhon (6 for Jeffries, 6 for Jerome, etc)... maybe that should change my mind.

This has less to do about David Lee and more to do with Turiaf, so dont even put me in that "plague" category.

I've seen Turiaf plenty this past season. Trust me, you're wrong. Turiaf is a poorly skilled, marginal role player. A --- "well were playing the Spurs tonight, but at least we got a six-foul-guy-in Turiaf-for-Duncan-tonight." Thats the extent of his talent.

Chalk up the assist factor in playing with Kobe.

I dont know how this debate is surviving.

[Edited by - sebstar on 07-09-2008 2:39 PM]

Ronny plays with Kobe, Derek, Pau, OhDumb, Sasha, Lukie POoky in the triange. A great team with a great coach who employs a great system. Stick him with Steph, Nate, Craw, Q, ZDumb and Eddy and the man will flat out get lost. Dlee has proven in a no system abilty to rebound, and finish around the basket. Dlee has instincts for the ball that are incredible. Remember the pass he caught and put in with under a second to play?

Ronny is a fine role player with a different skill set. A good foriegn player who spent time in the plantation and got him a nice big contract! Good for him.

As a fan I'd like to see how Dlee plays in D'antoni's system. I believe the kid can shoot when asked, when a play is called. DLee did well on scraps.

Posted by MS:

Wow now I have heard it all. You would rather have Turiaf than Lee. That's a ****ing disgrace, trying to compare the two is an embarrassment and anyone who did, should be embarrassed at their lack of basketball knowledge.

Lee is a better: passer, more fundamentally sound finisher with both hands around the basket, more efficient scorer and rebounder, doesn't have anyone like Kobe or Lamar in the lineup, is a high percentage player, and runs the floor better and is much more polished in the post and taking his man to the hoop

But Turiaf blocks a shot here and there and appears to be a little tougher which make him a better player.

Just absurd

Yeah, Lee is a mix between Dominique Wilkins and Hakeem. Im so embarrased that Im going to buy a Nets jersey with Kidd's numer.
Come on! Look, to me Lee can do cool dunks when he is free, can rebound very well, is athletic (not to much use honestly) and plays smart most of the time, which is really fine for a MLE role player. Thats it. He aint no good passer (he is decent mainly because he plays smart), he gets blocked once every two attempts of dunking/lay-ups, he plays smaller than he is, he can NOT shoot so far, and he plays no defense. I said I did not want to talk about Lee weaknesses but you went looking for it. I dont have anything else to say. The question is would you have Turiaf for 4 million $ or Lee for 8 million $? I dont have any doubts.

BTW, dont justify the assists in Kobe and Gasol, because it can work the other way. Maybe he does not get more assists because they dont pass him the ball, and Im not even considering he plays a bit more than half of the minutes David Lee plays.

Its ok you like Lee more than Turiaf, just let people think otherwise without "being embarrased".