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islesfan
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7/6/2008  12:32 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
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An assumption based on something tangible, like past evidence, is more valid than one based on hope.

No doubt there is hope involved with people hoping he play well, but let's not minimize the fact that you are hoping he sucks too.

No doubt, but my hoping that he sucks is based on something tangible.
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7/6/2008  12:35 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:


An assumption based on something tangible, like past evidence, is more valid than one based on hope.

No doubt there is hope involved with people hoping he play well, but let's not minimize the fact that you are hoping he sucks too.

No doubt, but my hoping that he sucks is based on something tangible.

Why would you hope that he scks? I have some question marks but my hope is that is his game translates better than I anticpate and that he turns into a really nice ballplayer--I don't see how a Knick fan hopes that he is bad???
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7/6/2008  12:36 PM
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Q: Describe the perfect girlfriend.
A: Like physically, or inside?
Q: Both.
A: Physically, has got to be so nice like [chuckle] I don't know, Adriana Lima, you know Adriana Lima?
Yes, this kid knows what he is talking about!

Good interview.
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7/6/2008  12:44 PM
From what I can see there's almost no way that the kid will Suck. He'll be 20 in aug. and for sure he's got a ton of learning and growing to do. What many of us are saying is that so far he seems to be at a good level of development for his age. Why shouldn't he be successful at the NBA level eventually? Like most rooks he'll likely have his growing pains, so it will likely take a couple of years before we know what he'll be.

I just get annoyed at the insistence that somehow NCAA experience is valid but Euro leagues are not. I haven't read anyone here who supports the kid saying he's a lock to be an All Star, but I feel his game will translate. He has real BB skills. Wally Szerbiak is slower than molasses and has almost no athletic ability and he stays in the league. I think this kid can be better than that and a useful part of this team.
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7/6/2008  12:56 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:


An assumption based on something tangible, like past evidence, is more valid than one based on hope.

No doubt there is hope involved with people hoping he play well, but let's not minimize the fact that you are hoping he sucks too.

No doubt, but my hoping that he sucks is based on something tangible.

Why would you hope that he scks? I have some question marks but my hope is that is his game translates better than I anticpate and that he turns into a really nice ballplayer--I don't see how a Knick fan hopes that he is bad???

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7/6/2008  12:56 PM
Q: Why shouldn't he be successful at the NBA level eventually?

A: Because the NBA level is the best and toughest in the world and nobody's success is guaranteed.

Q: If Wally can stay in the league, why can't Gallinari?

A: Wally has above average NBA ability in terms of shooting and scoring. Gallinari hasn't proven anything. Please let's not attempt to compare the EL to the NBA.
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7/6/2008  12:57 PM
The kid is likable.....he's saying the right things and he seems genuinely excited about performing for the Knicks. Awesome......

Isles - you gotta chill a bit. He's got some international games, and summer league games to play. The spotlight will be on him to perform. We'll know for sure if this kid can play or not pretty soon.

Be positive my brother just this once. If the kid doesn't show that he can at least belong in the league the way Lee, Nate, Balkman, and chandler did then we can start throwing grenades at the garden.
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7/6/2008  12:59 PM
Posted by nixluva:

From what I can see there's almost no way that the kid will Suck. He'll be 20 in aug. and for sure he's got a ton of learning and growing to do. What many of us are saying is that so far he seems to be at a good level of development for his age. Why shouldn't he be successful at the NBA level eventually? Like most rooks he'll likely have his growing pains, so it will likely take a couple of years before we know what he'll be.

I just get annoyed at the insistence that somehow NCAA experience is valid but Euro leagues are not. I haven't read anyone here who supports the kid saying he's a lock to be an All Star, but I feel his game will translate. He has real BB skills. Wally Szerbiak is slower than molasses and has almost no athletic ability and he stays in the league. I think this kid can be better than that and a useful part of this team.

All I have to say Nix is that our expectation should be tempered, he obviously has talent and looks like he has the coach to make him effective, but let's not think he'll give us semi all star stats just yet.
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7/6/2008  1:00 PM
Isles honestly, if the only reason for being here now is to incite riots amongst the board, instead of rooting for this team, then maybe you really shouldn't be here anymore. I like you dude, but honestly, that's pretty ****ty.
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7/6/2008  1:01 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

The kid is likable.....he's saying the right things and he seems genuinely excited about performing for the Knicks. Awesome......

Isles - you gotta chill a bit. He's got some international games, and summer league games to play. The spotlight will be on him to perform. We'll know for sure if this kid can play or not pretty soon.

Be positive my brother just this once. If the kid doesn't show that he can at least belong in the league the way Lee, Nate, Balkman, and chandler did then we can start throwing grenades at the garden.

I'll chill when people stop comparing anything about Gallinari to Larry Bird.

As the 6th pick of the draft, he better prove that he can be a lot more than Lee, Nate, Balkman and Chandler.
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7/6/2008  1:04 PM
Its an interview, He knows how to do interviews well. Thats what I got from it. How he does on the court is another thing. As far his playing days in Italy it should account for something but thats a seperate entity then what he will do in the NBA. There have been many player from college that have done well in college but never panned out in the NBA and there have been many European players that did well in Euorpe and never panned out in the NBA. As of now he hasn't had a chance to prove his worth in the NBA only time will tell if he is NBA material.

Like I said after the first three picks in the draft everyone else is a wait and see type player.
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7/6/2008  1:09 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Isles honestly, if the only reason for being here now is to incite riots amongst the board, instead of rooting for this team, then maybe you really shouldn't be here anymore. I like you dude, but honestly, that's pretty ****ty.

Dude, I'm not trying to incite anything. I just seriously question the 4 biggest moves (keeping Isiah, hiring D'Antonio's System, drafting Gallinari and signing Duhon) made so far by Walsh.

I think I've been very fair in my criticism. Criticism's that I've heard echoed from all corners of the mainstream media.

I mean no disrespect to posters like yourself, Eny and even nixluva but there are legitimate concerns with all of these moves and I don't think it's wrong to express them and offer a differing viewpoint from all the blind rah rah stuff that has proliferated this board.
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7/6/2008  1:19 PM
I kinda agree with Isles on this its an interview. Its not like he just played a game and dropped 18 points grabbed 7 rebs and dished out 4 assists. You can't get anything from an interview about the way he plays. Thats done on the basketball court. How his Italiian league playing days translates into the NBA still remains to be seen.
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7/6/2008  1:20 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Isles honestly, if the only reason for being here now is to incite riots amongst the board, instead of rooting for this team, then maybe you really shouldn't be here anymore. I like you dude, but honestly, that's pretty ****ty.

Dude, I'm not trying to incite anything. I just seriously question the 4 biggest moves (keeping Isiah, hiring D'Antonio's System, drafting Gallinari and signing Duhon) made so far by Walsh.

I think I've been very fair in my criticism. Criticism's that I've heard echoed from all corners of the mainstream media.

I mean no disrespect to posters like yourself, Eny and even nixluva but there are legitimate concerns with all of these moves and I don't think it's wrong to express them and offer a differing viewpoint from all the blind rah rah stuff that has proliferated this board.

But you also love the fact that he is looking to get rid of Marbury and trade away Randolph. And the fact that he has been fiscally responsible so far, and the fact that he is looking to gain cap flexability by 2010.

You know you do.

I don't know how you could be negative of Gallinari when you know nothing about him. D'Antoni you have watched so thats understandable, Duhon you have watched so that understandable, Isiah you have watched so thats also understandable.

People try to identify reasons to why things will be successful and you identify reasons why they will fail. Glad you found a role to play, thanks for keeping us down to earth.
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7/6/2008  1:25 PM
Posted by Vmart:

I kinda agree with Isles on this its an interview. Its not like he just played a game and dropped 18 points grabbed 7 rebs and dished out 4 assists. You can't get anything from an interview about the way he plays. Thats done on the basketball court. How his Italiian league playing days translates into the NBA still remains to be seen.

Of course not, Isles is right, this interview is pure fluff.

I'm just baffled by people calling him a bust already, as well as people saying he's going to be really good. I even said so in Purple's Larry Bird thread (sorry purple, you know you're my dude)

The point I'm trying to make to the Pro-Gallo people as well as the Negative-Gallo people is that not one of us has an idea what the player is going to be, since not one of us has watched him. I'm going to watch himself once this summer league games start and I'll have a much better idea of what he'll be, just like everyone else.

I mean yeah, it's great to see he's saying all the right things and I will say that I'm quite excited about him, but I think that excitement is based on the "unknown" that he is. We'll see what happens with the kid, I'm looking forward to it.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 07-06-2008 1:26 PM]
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7/6/2008  1:30 PM
Thats why you have to have an open mind, I don't think Isles presents an open mind. We don't know what Gallo is going to be in the NBA it remains to be seen.
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7/6/2008  1:33 PM
: I hold him later when they clean him and put all the towels on him

and then he carry out the Marbury to the street.......

Gallo is good boy, yes.

Isles would rather be right and gloat. Isles, btw your not as smart as you might think. It does not take a rocket scientist to chime in that everything and/or anything the knicks try will fail. Most of us know this, and most of us understand the risk/failure rate is high in professional sports.
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7/6/2008  1:37 PM
Why did people like Mayo so much? His stats weren't out of this world, and he didn't lead his team to the final four or anything.

Its because they identified things in his character like a maturity, desire & passion to be great, strong work ethic, leardership, humble. To go along with identifiable skills like shooting & handling.

Same goes for Gallinari, maturity, intensity, winning mentality, poise, bball iq, leadership, are whats said when you read scouting reports on him.

Even if Gallinari fails going I wouldn't blame Walsh for going after such needed things here with the Knicks.
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7/6/2008  1:41 PM
I like this kid a lot. I've always included him in the prospects that I liked at 6 and I love his makeup. The kid has the right attitude, works extremely hard, and is very coachable.

He's also got the things that you can't teach like good natural skills, good height, awesome basketball IQ. Don't get me wrong, I wanted Bayless at 6 and I was a little upset we passed on him (still am). However, I didn't know Gallo was 6'10 in sneakers. Have always thought that he was around 6'8/6'9. The fact that this kid is still growing and can bulk up a little bit leads me to believe he will be able to play PF in the future. That is huge because my biggest concern about this kid has always been lateral quickness. He is a smart defender and has always been a good defender in Italy. At least if he's going up against power forwards, he won't have to worry too much about moving his feet on defense.

I'm not expecting this kid to be Dirk, but I think he can become a very solid player in this league.
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7/6/2008  1:45 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:


An assumption based on something tangible, like past evidence, is more valid than one based on hope.

No doubt there is hope involved with people hoping he play well, but let's not minimize the fact that you are hoping he sucks too.

No doubt, but my hoping that he sucks is based on something tangible.

Why would you hope that he scks? I have some question marks but my hope is that is his game translates better than I anticpate and that he turns into a really nice ballplayer--I don't see how a Knick fan hopes that he is bad???
Yeah, seriously? Why do you hope he sucks?
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