Posted by TMS:

bro man, i had a thread up a week ago about possible shotblocking options... let's get ur twin brother Etan over here... he's got Harlem blood in his veins.

Etan would be nice. But how would we do that? He's a little old too though. Stop gap player? I love the man and the player so I'm down.

I dunno if you notice but I'm just trying to force a convo about moving forward. If you look @ the board, there is nothing but bickering about duhon and gallo.

I always wanted this guy on the Knicks....as a power fwd though. At any rate, didn't he have heart surgery? Something crazy like that I think.

Soft......Knicks are soft. Teams come in and just embarrass the Knicks and the only one pissed was Isiah.

David Lee gets a lot of props around town but he has got to be the softest rebounder ever. He doesn't really have a physical presence inside. He just can get to rebounds. He's a little more than that and he is a good player, but he is definately soft.

Like tms said basically the whole damn team is soft. Craw at least has that look of urgency and is trying his best. Nate, and Lee are the same......but soft, soft, soft is what we are man. It sucks.

How can we get guys that are willing to mix it up and scrap? Part of playing hard is not just effort. Its about taking it a little personal and forcing your will on the opposition.

for all of Isiah's faults (& he had plenty) the one thing i liked about him was that he was trying to preach these guys to be tough & not take defeats lying down... i think there are guys on this team that can be tough & have balls, just that Isiah completely lost the faith of the team last year & they stopped listening to anything he had to say.

i can see guys like Nate, Q Rich, Balk, Mardy & even Zach being tough as soon as they start playing & acting like a unified team & caring for each other instead of putting all their own self interests & playing time concerns above everything else... Jamal's toughness comes in the form of not being afraid to take big shots in big situations, i agree... he's not a guy that's gonna get in your face & puff out his chest, but if you score on him he's gonna put one back down on you on the other end... D Lee is too much of a nice guy... i love the guy to death but he needs to stop patting guys on the butt & start screaming in their face when he throws down a dunk on em... i hope Gallo brings some of that type of intensity to this team in the coming years.

i also really hope getting Marbury the fug away from this team will help to facilitate some sense of team unity for a change... not having that distraction around of Marbury & Isiah should be a good start to turning the page on getting back to respectability.

Posted by purple012870:

DLEE soft?

That deserves the dumbas$ award for the night.

Yeah all he does is rebound, and dunk in traffic with either hand, and beat his man down the court.

there are more than 1 kind of toughness, that much i'll agree with... D Lee isn't soft in terms of being unwilling to fight for rebounds & make hustle plays, we're talking more about his general "nice guy" persona.

& i love how you feel it's OK to throw insults anytime you disagree w/someone else's opinions... u did the same thing in the Larry Bird thread... at least your name isn't isles i guess.

I think Q Rich is soft and a poser. He talks big but never really backs it up. He is ready to tell guys like Curry that they need to lose weight but shows up to camp with a bigger gut than the previous season. He talks about team chemistry but goes behind his teammates back to trash them. IMHO, that guy should be one of the first to hit the exit door. D Lee is ok, I think he is a primadonna and let some of his hype go to his head but I wouldn't label him as soft, just a subpar defender.