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nixluva
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7/5/2008  7:15 PM
whenever someone mentions a kid being like an All Time great I find it wrong for people to assume they mean he's "literally" like that player. i think they mean it more in that he has elements of that players game, if not some potential to do similar things on a lower scale.

i think we all know that players like Bird are a rare breed. To suggest that Gallo has some of the same kinds of overall skills that could make him successful isn't blasphemy. We'll see how the kid develops, but his not being a Josh Smith type of athlete, but still highly skilled gives him a chance to do some Bird like things on the court. He uses is brain and guile like Bird. He's athletic enough to be effective if he plays smart and uses superior technique. In particular on defense. Knowing how much space to give an opponent or how to cut off penetration. Thinking several moves ahead. I hope Gallo will be that kind of player. He seems to have some of those skills already from what we know of him. We'll see.
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7/5/2008  7:29 PM
He clearly imitates the way Bird used to set up his outside shots. His dad was a huge Bird fan, and probably raised him on some Bird tapes to one extent or another.
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7/5/2008  7:32 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

Either Gallinari is really good or the defense in Italy really sucks.

Thank you basketball Jones. The defense in Italy really is bad, but know body wants to post about that and "the gall" with his highlight reel.


Only with NY players do we go wayyyy over board on a players potential and impact.


[Edited by - playa2 on 05-07-2008 19:34]
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7/5/2008  7:37 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Larry Bird??? Seriously, can we just stop? Please?

These are the kind of threads and statements I'm talking about. This is out of hand.
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7/5/2008  7:57 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:

Larry Bird??? Seriously, can we just stop? Please?

These are the kind of threads and statements I'm talking about. This is out of hand.
Maybe they'll get warned via sticky.

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7/5/2008  8:18 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:

Larry Bird??? Seriously, can we just stop? Please?

These are the kind of threads and statements I'm talking about. This is out of hand.

seriously... reminds me of those idiotic Marcus Williams is the next Mark Jackson threads.
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7/5/2008  8:42 PM
Most international big men follow the model of Larry Bird to some degree. That's not to say any of them are the next Larry Bird, but most of the prospects out there have modeled their game after Bird and that is the preferred style of player over there. D'Antoni has spoken about his admiration for the Euro Big man in the past- the 6'10" guy who can not only shoot but can orchestrate. This kind of player in theory is a matchup nightmare and can allow a bright offensive coach the ability to really dream big. If Gallo is anywhere near as good as his rep and the reports than we're gonna see some really enterataining stuff in the next few seasons.
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7/5/2008  9:11 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:

Larry Bird??? Seriously, can we just stop? Please?

These are the kind of threads and statements I'm talking about. This is out of hand.

seriously... reminds me of those idiotic Marcus Williams is the next Mark Jackson threads.

Not from me that's for sure.
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7/5/2008  9:51 PM
Hey...IDIOTS...

I didn't say he would be the next Larry Bird, didn't say he was as good or better. He doesn't nearly have any sort of resume' to make such a comparison---OBVIOUSLY.

I merely noted that at 6'9" +, he has some of the ball skills that Bird had. We obviously cannot favorably compare a kid that none of us are that familiar to an all time great, but I would think that ---on a supposed Knick fan site--- we can reference a few skills that the kid has to another player, even if that player is Bird.

Is that such a difficult concept to understand?
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7/5/2008  10:20 PM
Posted by purple012870:

Hey...IDIOTS...

I didn't say he would be the next Larry Bird, didn't say he was as good or better. He doesn't nearly have any sort of resume' to make such a comparison---OBVIOUSLY.

I merely noted that at 6'9" +, he has some of the ball skills that Bird had. We obviously cannot favorably compare a kid that none of us are that familiar to an all time great, but I would think that ---on a supposed Knick fan site--- we can reference a few skills that the kid has to another player, even if that player is Bird.

Is that such a difficult concept to understand?

Reading is fundamental. If it makes you feel better, I understood what you meant. This is actually the same reason why nbadraft.net needs to stop posting player comparisons. People read those and assume that they're intending it to mean that a young player will be the next player A. When, what they're really saying is they're stylistically similar. I gotcha on this and it's quite possible that you're right.

I don't think anyone is realisticaly expecting Larry Bird Part II. Quite frankly, I'd be happy with Sue Bird, at this point.
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7/5/2008  10:48 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by purple012870:

Hey...IDIOTS...

I didn't say he would be the next Larry Bird, didn't say he was as good or better. He doesn't nearly have any sort of resume' to make such a comparison---OBVIOUSLY.

I merely noted that at 6'9" +, he has some of the ball skills that Bird had. We obviously cannot favorably compare a kid that none of us are that familiar to an all time great, but I would think that ---on a supposed Knick fan site--- we can reference a few skills that the kid has to another player, even if that player is Bird.

Is that such a difficult concept to understand?

Reading is fundamental. If it makes you feel better, I understood what you meant. This is actually the same reason why nbadraft.net needs to stop posting player comparisons. People read those and assume that they're intending it to mean that a young player will be the next player A. When, what they're really saying is they're stylistically similar. I gotcha on this and it's quite possible that you're right.

I don't think anyone is realisticaly expecting Larry Bird Part II. Quite frankly, I'd be happy with Sue Bird, at this point.


Why not say he ha skill sets comparable to Drazen Petrovich or Detleft Shrempf or Toni Kucok or Kiki Wendehghe? There's a reason you stated Bird always going to the cream of the crop when you know how fans usually eat stuff like this up.

Solace I agree player comparisons are overall a joke because fans run with them.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-05-2008 10:06 PM]
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7/5/2008  11:01 PM
Solace - well said
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7/5/2008  11:03 PM
btw...Petro doesn't work b/c of the major size diff

also, Petro & Kiki don't work b/c they were not playmakers for others

Kukoc is a solid skill set comp.
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7/5/2008  11:06 PM
Posted by purple012870:

btw...Petro doesn't work b/c of the major size diff

also, Petro & Kiki don't work b/c they were not playmakers for others

Kukoc is a solid skill set comp.


Skill Sets as in some not all things in their game is comparable.
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7/6/2008  12:13 AM
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7/6/2008  12:19 AM
The last athletically challenged player out of the draft that got compared to Bird was Adam Morrison and that didnt pan out too well. Gallinari has skills but he has yet to show he can pull it off in a league that is faster and more athletic than him and what he is used to. I'm rooting for him but it's wise to keep expectations low.

I'm satisfied with the pick tho, I could have nitpicked everybody else we could have picked at 6 once Westbrook was gone.

[Edited by - NineMike2Whiskey on 07-06-2008 12:21 AM]
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7/6/2008  12:20 AM
hey purple, i wasn't tryin' to insult ya w/my post (in case u took it that way)... i was just being a smart ass as usual.
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7/6/2008  10:39 AM
I think we've seen enough guys like Gallo come over and be successful. The speed difference isn't a problem for Hedo, AK47, Memo, Tony Parker, Manu etc. I don't think Gallo is slow, he may not be the quickest guy, but there's one thing that people tend to overlook, the reason why guys like Bird and Pierce are so effective at getting by their man, even tho they aren't blazingly fast is that they can SHOOT with just a little room. This is why Gallo can be successful, The kid forces his man to play closer and since he has a solid handle just like Bird or Pierce or Odom for that matter, it puts his defender at a disadvantage and makes up for the lack of speed.

Once again go back and look at just who Gallo is beating or breaking down and you'll notice that it's often smaller quicker guards in addition to guys his size. Being highly skilled makes you a much more dangerous weapon. He also draws contact with is a particular skill that not everyone has. Pierce has this too and it also makes up for any lack of speed. I think Gallo has an excellent shot to be successful if he continues to develop and get's stronger. The speed factor is overblown. Especially for a guy 6-10 or more. Guys his size won't be fast enough and smaller guys won't be big enough to effect his shot.
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7/6/2008  11:33 AM
NixLuva is right on the $$$.
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7/6/2008  11:35 AM
One of the moves that was amazing (on the YT highlights) was the Chris Paul style x-over dribble that is done with the same hand. In DLo's case, he did it lefty. I love that move.
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