Posted by islesfan:

Posted by crzymdups:

i just went through the salary pages at hoopshype to see if there were any big contracts ending in 2010 that might possibly be trade bait. other than the obvious guys who are expiring that no team would ever want to be rid of early: Lebron, Wade, Melo, Amare, etc, there was hardly anyone.

There was one name that matched in salary who might be traded early so his team could rebuild with cap room: Tracy McGrady. To which I say: hell no, please waive Marbury immediately.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 01-07-2008 10:52 PM]

Did you look for a single contract that was equal to Marbury's or did you look for combination of contracts that total close to what Marbury's deal is?

For example, Chicago could trade Hinrich and Larry Hughes for Marbury. Hughes expires in 2010 and the Knicks could obviously use Hinrich and he has a manageable contract.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by crzymdups:

i just went through the salary pages at hoopshype to see if there were any big contracts ending in 2010 that might possibly be trade bait. other than the obvious guys who are expiring that no team would ever want to be rid of early: Lebron, Wade, Melo, Amare, etc, there was hardly anyone.

There was one name that matched in salary who might be traded early so his team could rebuild with cap room: Tracy McGrady. To which I say: hell no, please waive Marbury immediately.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 01-07-2008 10:52 PM]

Did you look for a single contract that was equal to Marbury's or did you look for combination of contracts that total close to what Marbury's deal is?

For example, Chicago could trade Hinrich and Larry Hughes for Marbury. Hughes expires in 2010 and the Knicks could obviously use Hinrich and he has a manageable contract.

so $38 million is "managable" for a pg who averages 11ppg, 6apg and shoots 39%? i'm glad you're not the gm, isles! or should i say, isles-iah!

and are you really telling me paxson would trade for marbury? to what, ruin derrick rose before he plays a game?

i did look at contracts like that, combo poo-poo platters if you will, and there's nothing that reduces our cap number for 2010 that makes sense for both teams... nothing that makes as much sense as letting marbury float to the breeze. the only way we'd be able to get marbury is for a richard jefferson type trade - to help someone who was trying to get cap room for 2010.

edit: the one potential trade that is out there is still jermaine o'neal, but unless he has a season ending injury before the trade deadline in 2009, i can't see toronto giving up on him so quickly.

i say waive marbury and kick him in the butt on the way out the door. then lock the door.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 01-07-2008 11:05 PM]

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by islesfan:

The Cavs can send Ben Wallace and Pavlovic, who both expire in 2 summers. The Cavs need to get their team up to a championship level before 2010 and they would have a ton of cap space to sign free agents next year.

I made it through all of 5 teams and found 2 deals that could happen for Marbury's expiring contract.

LeBron doesn't want to play with Marbury.

And that's why they can buy him out and use the cap savings next summer.

Posted by crzymdups:

no, i looked for combinations like you mentioned, but not a lot of teams have something that adds up to $22M that makes sense for both parties.

i don't see how adding hinrich's salary is more beneficial than letting marbury expire, either. hinrich is overrated by this board, as i have said before. chicago had a bad offense, hinrich was the lead guard. every time i've seen him he was making non-commital passes and bombing away from the three point line. pass on hinrich. also, really, you'd have to find a team willing to take marbury. that's a public relations hit in a big way for any team.

just buy him out. you want to send fans the right message? end the isiah era? buy him out. i don't mind keeping him on the payroll as long as he is placed on the IR and banned from the team and any practice facilities. he's a gigantic cancer and i want him gone. you really want him here trying to get his numbers for a new contract? i'd rather move on so we can see what the rest of this roster can do and maybe improve the trade value of guys like Crawford, Curry and Zach before 2010.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by crzymdups:

no, i looked for combinations like you mentioned, but not a lot of teams have something that adds up to $22M that makes sense for both parties.

i don't see how adding hinrich's salary is more beneficial than letting marbury expire, either. hinrich is overrated by this board, as i have said before. chicago had a bad offense, hinrich was the lead guard. every time i've seen him he was making non-commital passes and bombing away from the three point line. pass on hinrich. also, really, you'd have to find a team willing to take marbury. that's a public relations hit in a big way for any team.

just buy him out. you want to send fans the right message? end the isiah era? buy him out. i don't mind keeping him on the payroll as long as he is placed on the IR and banned from the team and any practice facilities. he's a gigantic cancer and i want him gone. you really want him here trying to get his numbers for a new contract? i'd rather move on so we can see what the rest of this roster can do and maybe improve the trade value of guys like Crawford, Curry and Zach before 2010.

I'm pretty sure that Skiles' offensive system is a little different than D'Antonio's. I wouldn't judge him based on that. And Hinrich is a solid defensive player.

Why would trading for Marbury be a bad PR move if he's told to go home or bought out right away?

Buying out Marbury is plain stupid. If you don't want him around the team just tell him to go home. Why waste an asset like that?

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by islesfan:

The Cavs can send Ben Wallace and Pavlovic, who both expire in 2 summers. The Cavs need to get their team up to a championship level before 2010 and they would have a ton of cap space to sign free agents next year.

I made it through all of 5 teams and found 2 deals that could happen for Marbury's expiring contract.

LeBron doesn't want to play with Marbury.

And that's why they can buy him out and use the cap savings next summer.

What was the other? And how on earth does that deal benefit the Knicks in any way?

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by islesfan:

The Cavs can send Ben Wallace and Pavlovic, who both expire in 2 summers. The Cavs need to get their team up to a championship level before 2010 and they would have a ton of cap space to sign free agents next year.

I made it through all of 5 teams and found 2 deals that could happen for Marbury's expiring contract.

LeBron doesn't want to play with Marbury.

And that's why they can buy him out and use the cap savings next summer.

Do the Knicks really want to take on Wallace and Pavlovic for two years? I mean it might be better to let Marbury expire a Knick and spread his ashes on top of MSG.

Seriously, who the hell cares as long as their contracts expire in the summer of 2010? And they're players that the current team could use.