Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by McK1:

after remaking himself into a star with his run in GS, why would baron want to be a clipper?

To put the Clips back on the map again plus he's an L.A. guy, good friends with EB, and is a current movie producer.

Posted by McK1:

where are the clues? nothing in here but writer speculation. baron opted out of 17 mill guaranteed from a much better team, coach, organization, fan base, etc. to take a 4 mill paycut to team with Brand Kaman and crap to put the clippers back on the map in a loaded western conference.

sorry but i don't buy it.

i'd watch for a deal absorbing kirk or chauncey's salary with that capspace b4 expecting baron to take a paycut to play for a loser like Mike Dumbleavy sr.

The main purpose was to show you Brand doesn't have to be renounced in order to sign Baron.

Posted by McK1:

only if baron isn't looking for a max deal.

i'd bet he's looking for a longer deal that pays more over the life of the contract.

as in he'd rather get 5yrs $75M than 3 years at the max...


i don't think anyone expects him to get a 5yr max deal, do they? maybe i'm crazy.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 01-07-2008 12:26 PM]

Posted by McK1:

only if baron isn't looking for a max deal.

You never said that initially don't backtrack now.

Plus I don't think Baron would have opted out of $18mil to gamble on getting a Max deal in a market where no team is under the cap by Max Dollars except the Hawks. So your reasoning is he opts out to get a Max Deal and the only way he can do it if the Warriors do him a favor by working a S&T with another team in which they'd have to take back hefty salaries when they have 3-4 of their own FA to sign?

Your reasoning sounds even more ridiculous.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by McK1:

only if baron isn't looking for a max deal.

You never said that initially don't backtrack now.

Plus I don't think Baron would have opted out of $18mil to gamble on getting a Max deal in a market where no team is under the cap by Max Dollars except the Hawks. So your reasoning is he opts out to get a Max Deal and the only way he can do it if the Warriors do him a favor by working a S&T with another team in which they'd have to take back hefty salaries when they have 3-4 of their own FA to sign?

Your reasoning sounds even more ridiculous.

for 1 I'm not backtracking. the issue of salary and baron taking a paycut was just 1 part of my argument

and uhhhh....if they make a deal with ny for say marbury's ending contract its the same financial premise as baron deciding to play out the last yr of his contract - a contingency all their money people and the owner were prepared for.

but since you are so fond of internet rumors, what do you make of them reportedly offering arenas a max deal and how that ties into whaever they feel about their own free agents that they have to re-sign?

Because I don't think they'd want a player of Marbury's caliber, especially when there are rumors he may be bought out by us since we're sticking with the rumors mojo. Why take on $23mil unecessarily? Signing a hot commodity such as Arenas one who has minimal degree of separation with their organization would be more bang for the Warriors buck, allowing them to remain a threatening WC playoff team vs taking on our albatross contract(s) just to make a deal work. Not to mention signing someone like Arenas may make it easier for them to let one of their FA go or gives them stronger leverage to work better trades in the off-season. Picking up Marbury accomplishes dead zero for them, considering by the time his deal is off the books and they re-up their FA's they'll be over the cap the following season and definitely not a playoff team. We haven't even begun to discuss the costs/risks for us.

Posted by McK1:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by McK1:

after remaking himself into a star with his run in GS, why would baron want to be a clipper?

To put the Clips back on the map again plus he's an L.A. guy, good friends with EB, and is a current movie producer.

unless they renounce Brand, its going to have to be a sign and trade, don't see Baron opting to make the deal with the clips vs pushing for a trade here. they may be in LA but they are the other team. knick endorsements>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>clipper endorsements. with danilo opening the italian market up, baron can go international.

read an article about yi and subsequently yao highlighting the fact that yao's teammates have sneaker deals in china and shane in particular makes more $$$ of endorsements over there than he does here.

Tadow!