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What do you want in a point guard and who out there fits that description?
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Ira
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6/28/2008  11:20 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Jerryd Bayless

He might be available. He was drafted pretty late. Portland just traded for Ford. He was the guy I wanted to draft at 6. I still can't figure why he fell so far. Sacratomato wanted him but Indiana picked him up first and traded him to Portland. He's got the speed and outside shooting. The only negative I can think of is that his passing hasn't developed as much as you'd want in a pg.
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6/28/2008  11:23 PM
I want the guy who's shooting this shot...(LOL @ his left arm it was like he shot the ball and then slid his hands through his hair as if he's Mr. Slick)(Somebody is also getting iced out on offense or must have a very unreliable jumper)



I want this to be our mascot





[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-28-2008 10:26 PM]
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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6/28/2008  11:29 PM


lmao at kam WIDE open asking for the ball...action ain't passing it tho...he gots to get his...
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6/28/2008  11:34 PM
Posted by djsunyc:



lmao at kam WIDE open asking for the ball...action ain't passing it tho...he gots to get his...

This pic is classic! Somebody is also getting boxed out like EY CURRY!
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6/28/2008  11:37 PM
Was this another shot by Action?


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-28-2008 11:01 PM]
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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6/28/2008  11:56 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

arroyo con pollo es muy malo...

didn't last in utah
didn't last in detroit
and isn't getting pt in orlando

why would anybody want him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Arroyo

reasons why he might be a good fit:
Arroyo was given the starting job after Stockton retired and Jackson joined the Houston Rockets before the start of the 2003-04 NBA season. He surprised many Jazz fans, and by November 2003 he was ranked 11th in the league in assists per game. On November 14, he broke the record for most points scored by a Puerto Rican in an NBA game, scoring 30 points against the Minnesota Timberwolves. He finished the season with a career-high percentage of 12.6 points per game.

On February 15, 2006, Arroyo was dealt (along with Darko Miličić) from Detroit to the Orlando Magic, in exchange for Kelvin Cato and a future first-round draft choice.

The addition of Arroyo and Miličić, plus the return of point guard Jameer Nelson from the injured list, sparked a resurgence of the Magic in the last quarter of the 2005-2006 season, as they finished with a 12-3 run, nearly reaching the playoffs. During this run, the team had an 8-game winning streak, beating top teams such as the Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, Miami Heat and the Detroit Pistons. During the stretch run, Arroyo averaged 22.1 MPG, 10.8 PPG, 2.9 APG, and 2.2 RPG off the bench, which earned Arroyo the back-up point guard position behind Nelson. These averages are significant improvements from the statistics he accumulated with the Pistons, when he averaged only 12 minutes per game. He scored a season-high 21 points against the Phoenix Suns on March 3, 2006.

The Orlando Magic started the 2007-08 season with new coach Stan Van Gundy, and Arroyo again on the backup point guard position. On November 28, 2007, he had a career-high 14 assists in a game against the Seattle Supersonics. On December 29, 2007, Arroyo was promoted to the starting position after Nelson experienced an extended offensive slump.[6] With Nelson in the starting position during this period the team was having an average of seventeen turnovers per game, and he was unable to score in double digits on 10 out of 17 games.[6] This led to Van Gundy issuing several public notices concerning the team's performance eventually leading to changes in the starting formation.[6] During Arroyo's first three games in the starting position the amount of turnovers produced by the team was lowered to eleven per game.[6] Arroyo's points average was within double digits in all of these games and he scored seventeen assists.[6][7] Arroyo closed January in the starting position, the team finished the month winning five out of six games.

reasons why he may not be such a great fit:
During the 2004-05 NBA season with the Jazz, Arroyo had several disputes with Sloan. He eventually found himself back on the bench.

Arroyo started the 2006-07 season as the team's backup point guard but was demoted by the team's coach Brian Hill following an offensive slump, eventually returning to this position during mid season.

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6/29/2008  12:05 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Was this another shot by Action?


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-28-2008 11:01 PM]

look at all those cement shoes stuck underneath the basket waiting for that ball to land in our arms... Eddy Curry ain't got nothin' on us.
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6/29/2008  8:30 AM
The PG that we find to lead this team 3 years from now, will not be found this year. This next PG will be a stopgap. Either it will be Marbs, or someone who isn't quite as good as Marbs. Either way, we need to be patient
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6/29/2008  9:23 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

The PG that we find to lead this team 3 years from now, will not be found this year. This next PG will be a stopgap. Either it will be Marbs, or someone who isn't quite as good as Marbs. Either way, we need to be patient

Ok stopgaps are fine for now......Marbs for a year, fine.
If it isn't this year, what about next year? Or the next.......is ther a point guard available that the Knicks can target on? Is that point guard even in the league right now? Is he in the country?
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6/29/2008  10:44 AM
Trading Lee for a stop gap player would be absolute stupidity on the Knicks part. They need to target a PG for the long haul someone they can build the team with.
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6/29/2008  11:00 AM
how about using the MLE on Telfair.. 2 years $10mm. Would Min match? Telfair is a talented guy who in the right situation might turn the corner. He's certainly got a ton of upside.
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6/29/2008  11:01 AM
Posted by Vmart:

Trading Lee for a stop gap player would be absolute stupidity on the Knicks part. They need to target a PG for the long haul someone they can build the team with.

If the Knicks trade Lee it would have to be for a player the Knicks wanna hold on to.

Question is.......who isn't a stop gap? Who should the Knicks target as a solution to our problem at the point?

Nate Robinson might already be the long term answer.
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6/29/2008  11:04 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Vmart:

Trading Lee for a stop gap player would be absolute stupidity on the Knicks part. They need to target a PG for the long haul someone they can build the team with.

If the Knicks trade Lee it would have to be for a player the Knicks wanna hold on to.

Question is.......who isn't a stop gap? Who should the Knicks target as a solution to our problem at the point?

Nate Robinson might already be the long term answer.

Nate might be the answer. But Jordan Farmar might be a good solution, he can shoot and has a good Basketball I.Q.

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6/29/2008  11:40 AM
Posted by fishmike:

how about using the MLE on Telfair.. 2 years $10mm. Would Min match? Telfair is a talented guy who in the right situation might turn the corner. He's certainly got a ton of upside.

He's still a young guy that gets involved in stuff he shouldn't. A few years back he had gotten robbed for his jewley and sent goons to shoot @ rapper Fabulous and his crew for allegedly being responsible. He had got caught with a gun while with Boston also.

Aside from that? Telflair has really started to learn his craft. He actually was ok in minnesota last year, actually passing first as opposed to looking for his shot like he did in Boston and Portland. He was supposed to be an after thought in Minnesota but got his chance to learn because of injuries.

How annoying would it be for Marbs if his cousin comes in and actually comes through for his hometown club?

Btw, thing that stands out with Telflair is his motor. He is one of those guys that seems to be vibrating cuz they can't stay still.



[Edited by - enyspree on 29-06-2008 12:00 PM]
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6/29/2008  12:11 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by Vmart:

Trading Lee for a stop gap player would be absolute stupidity on the Knicks part. They need to target a PG for the long haul someone they can build the team with.

If the Knicks trade Lee it would have to be for a player the Knicks wanna hold on to.

Question is.......who isn't a stop gap? Who should the Knicks target as a solution to our problem at the point?

Nate Robinson might already be the long term answer.

Nate might be the answer. But Jordan Farmar might be a good solution, he can shoot and has a good Basketball I.Q.

It all depends on what your idea of a point guard is. Farmar isn't a deceptive, wheel and deal type. He's not a distributer. He's just a guard. Like Paxson, BJ Armstrong, Fisher, or basically guards that Phil Jackson usually has.

I don't think Farmar is the answer.....Nate is better than him.

You know it always comes back to Nate you know. Maybe that's a sign?
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6/29/2008  5:25 PM
Farmar is not the answer... he's not a great decision maker on the floor IMO, more of a slashing type scorer & can knock down the occasional open J like Eny's talking about... & i agree, Nate is already better than him in what he does.

i dunno if Nate's the longterm answer as a starting PG, we'll see this season i guess if he's worked on his decision making skills & orchestrating ability... he doesn't have great court vision tho, which is a concern to me... his focus always seems on getting his way to the basket or making a decision on the fly while he's on his way there, which isn't bad if you're a SG.

i think if you don't wanna give up D Lee for Felton then Arroyo is not a bad option for us... i think him & Nate would have a nice competition for a starting role on this team & would push each other... ain't no way Mardy's gonna do that, & i am done w/Marbury on this team... don't wanna see him giving us even a stop gap season... he needs to be gone.
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6/29/2008  5:27 PM
i like the telfair option. i think we should aim for high risk/ high reward guys, so long as their is no long-term financial commitment.

telfair
felton
livingston

should be our targets, imho.

edit, also, if indiana buys out Tinsley, he has to be an option, too. the guy has had his share of problems, but he is a gritty, pure pg if he can ever stay healthy.

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53271/20080629/indy_will_buyout_tinsley_if_they_cant_deal_him/

[Edited by - crzymdups on 29-06-2008 5:29 PM]
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6/29/2008  5:30 PM
I think Walsh is looking for a long term fix at PG rather than a bandaid right now.
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6/29/2008  10:02 PM
Luke ridnour would be perfect.would excel under coach and is a good shooter as well .
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6/29/2008  10:41 PM
Posted by SOSA201:

Luke ridnour would be perfect.would excel under coach and is a good shooter as well .

Djsunyc came up with a curry for ridinour and petro deal.....that's pretty fair. Still is Ridinour that strong lead guard we're looking for? Do you see him leading anything? He's too light in the ass don't you think? Its an interesting option though.
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