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Vmart
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6/28/2008  2:46 PM
Posted by Uptown:

Name me a better pg on the market than Felton? Not saying their isn't one. But name them.

I hope your joking comparing Mardy to Felton. You cant just look at the numbers, you need to watch the games. Felton is a better pure point guard than Udrich, Mardy and Ridnour. Its not really that close. I get the feeling you haven't watched Felton much and your just going on his numbers. I've been tracking him since HS. He was the #1 rated pg coming out of high school which includes Paul. He won the championship in college running a system that required him to push the ball.

I've seen this kid play a ton. As Crzy mentioned, he has had some bad coaching in Charlotte. Making this kid play off the ball for stretches is absurd. I think Felton will excell in the pick and roll offense because of his awareness, passing ability and he can stick the mid-range jumper pretty consistantly.

And BTW Dwyane Wade 25% 3ptfg (career).

[Edited by - uptown on 06-28-2008 2:36 PM]


Thats the thing you are attached to felton because you have been following him since HS. I have been following him in the NBA and he is decent player but I don't want him for the Knicks as I know he will not make a difference here. Bobcats are giving up on him, and the Knicks are giving up on Lee for the same reason they can't shoot. you can not have a PG who shoots 41% and 28% from three. Its really not very good especially if you are going to team him up with another poor shooter in Jamal Crawford, you have a backcourt shooting 41%. I'll take Barbosa and play him at pg before I take Felton.
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6/28/2008  2:53 PM
this instant build thing is what has screwed the team.

Rather than find best available, lets find a stop gap measure. If something great comes along, fine.

What about Portland and all their PGs? Maybe we can get one of theirs. How about getting a player without much time in the NBA, partly unproven & get a future draft pick back?
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6/28/2008  3:09 PM
They most likely wouldn't make this trade, but if I was going to trade Lee for a young PG, this is who I would want:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/mike_conley/index.html?nav=page



[Edited by - s3231 on 06-28-2008 3:11 PM]
"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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6/28/2008  3:11 PM
Posted by s3231:

They most likely wouldn't make this trade, but if I was going to trade Lee for a young PG, this is who I would want:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/mike_conley/index.html?nav=page

he's in memphis' long-term plans:

PG Conley/Lowry
SG Mayo
SF Gay
PF Arthur/Warrick
C M Gasol

we're not getting conley.
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6/28/2008  3:12 PM
Posted by franco12:

this instant build thing is what has screwed the team.

Rather than find best available, lets find a stop gap measure. If something great comes along, fine.

What about Portland and all their PGs? Maybe we can get one of theirs. How about getting a player without much time in the NBA, partly unproven & get a future draft pick back?

that's a good point. but i think felton for lee is about as even as you can get, honestly.
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6/28/2008  3:14 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by s3231:

They most likely wouldn't make this trade, but if I was going to trade Lee for a young PG, this is who I would want:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/mike_conley/index.html?nav=page

he's in memphis' long-term plans:

PG Conley/Lowry
SG Mayo
SF Gay
PF Arthur/Warrick
C M Gasol

we're not getting conley.

I'm well aware of that. As I said, they most likely wouldn't make that trade, but I'm not one of those guys who thinks we should trade Lee just for the hell of it. We have to get something very good in return.

"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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6/28/2008  3:20 PM
Posted by s3231:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by s3231:

They most likely wouldn't make this trade, but if I was going to trade Lee for a young PG, this is who I would want:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/mike_conley/index.html?nav=page

he's in memphis' long-term plans:

PG Conley/Lowry
SG Mayo
SF Gay
PF Arthur/Warrick
C M Gasol

we're not getting conley.

I'm well aware of that. As I said, they most likely wouldn't make that trade, but I'm not one of those guys who thinks we should trade Lee just for the hell of it. We have to get something very good in return.

i'd prefer to trade ZBO. cleveland seems to be flailing, offering Wally's expiring deal for Wince Carter and getting turned down. if they're willing to take on Vince's 4 yrs $50 million, Zach's 3 yr deal will seem like nothing and he's younger and more productive than Vince.

ZBO to the Cavs, keep Lee would be my plan. but that doesn't appear to be in the cards. it seems they're dead set on trading lee. i would do the Cavs thing though.
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6/28/2008  3:32 PM
There was never a Felton for Lee trade on the table. Same Source that said Walsh had his man at 6 on draft night, and the same source that said MDA didnt like Gallinari
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6/28/2008  3:37 PM
Posted by Vmart:

Thats the thing you are attached to felton because you have been following him since HS. I have been following him in the NBA and he is decent player but I don't want him for the Knicks as I know he will not make a difference here. Bobcats are giving up on him, and the Knicks are giving up on Lee for the same reason they can't shoot. you can not have a PG who shoots 41% and 28% from three. Its really not very good especially if you are going to team him up with another poor shooter in Jamal Crawford, you have a backcourt shooting 41%. I'll take Barbosa and play him at pg before I take Felton.

I don't entirely agree here. Lee is the Knicks only really tradeable asset and so he is mentioned in a lot of trades. He also now duplicates DG at the 3/4. Outside shot? Lee is getting better and I give him another year to prove he can shoot.
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6/28/2008  3:39 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

if jordan is looking to trade him, i'm sold. he's the worst gm in the league now that we've retired isiah.

You're forgetting that fellow in Memphis?
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6/28/2008  3:43 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by s3231:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by s3231:

They most likely wouldn't make this trade, but if I was going to trade Lee for a young PG, this is who I would want:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/mike_conley/index.html?nav=page

he's in memphis' long-term plans:

PG Conley/Lowry
SG Mayo
SF Gay
PF Arthur/Warrick
C M Gasol

we're not getting conley.

I'm well aware of that. As I said, they most likely wouldn't make that trade, but I'm not one of those guys who thinks we should trade Lee just for the hell of it. We have to get something very good in return.

i'd prefer to trade ZBO. cleveland seems to be flailing, offering Wally's expiring deal for Wince Carter and getting turned down. if they're willing to take on Vince's 4 yrs $50 million, Zach's 3 yr deal will seem like nothing and he's younger and more productive than Vince.

ZBO to the Cavs, keep Lee would be my plan. but that doesn't appear to be in the cards. it seems they're dead set on trading lee. i would do the Cavs thing though.

I'd love to keep Lee. Hopefully we do. If a good trade comes up though, I wouldn't hesitate to send him packing if we it helps us out a lot at a different position.

"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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6/28/2008  4:15 PM
what about Javaris?
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6/28/2008  4:17 PM
Posted by McK1:

what about Javaris?

not for Lee... he'd have to come cheap.
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6/28/2008  4:41 PM
Curry for Darko and Lowry.

Griz need a post presence.
We'd get a solid young PG and Darko, a defensive Big, for 2 years.
And we get to keep Lee.

Other PG options:
Arroyo, Barea, Jarrett Jack.
I always expected Arroyo to become a Mike Bibby type. He can play uptempo, but hasn't really made it yet. Is a FA, and might be obtainable with part of the MLE.
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6/28/2008  4:48 PM
Lowry? Crittenton? Felton is a much better point guard than these guys. And why should we settle for a stop-gap guy like Ridnour when we can get a 24 year old pure point guard in Felton now(if he's avaliable)? Who and where is this point guard coming from in the future? We've been looking for a point since Strickland. They aren't easy to come by.

If Felton is available, we need to try and get him here. He can run D'Antoni's offense and he's a better than any point we could have drafted at 6.
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6/28/2008  5:20 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by McK1:

what about Javaris?

not for Lee... he'd have to come cheap.

how about D Lee & Mardy for Javaris & Warrick?
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6/28/2008  5:22 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

ZBO to the Cavs, keep Lee would be my plan. but that doesn't appear to be in the cards. it seems they're dead set on trading lee. i would do the Cavs thing though.

ur can't seriously think they'd rather trade D Lee than offload Zach if they could, do u? trading Zach is a nigh impossibility for us at this point, especially w/o that draft pick to sweeten the deal.
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6/28/2008  8:17 PM
Posted by Uptown:

Lowry? Crittenton? Felton is a much better point guard than these guys. And why should we settle for a stop-gap guy like Ridnour when we can get a 24 year old pure point guard in Felton now(if he's avaliable)? Who and where is this point guard coming from in the future? We've been looking for a point since Strickland. They aren't easy to come by.

If Felton is available, we need to try and get him here. He can run D'Antoni's offense and he's a better than any point we could have drafted at 6.

don't think ray is that far ahead of Crit in terms of talent and Crit is as big at 19 than felt is at 24.
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