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Knicks/Grizzlies trade off -- Lee doesn't wanna play in Memphis
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islesfan
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6/26/2008  9:46 AM
David Lee is a ****ing phony. He says all the right things in front of the camera but behind the scenes it's all about him. 3 years coming off the bench and 2 years before he can become a free agent and he's playing the superstar "I don't want to play for you" card.

How about you develop a 15 foot jumper that a 15 year old would be proud of before you hold this franchise hostage?
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6/26/2008  9:49 AM

Guys, the guy can go out and negotiate and Memphis can Match.

If lee has any leverage, then memphis has to come in and give a promise of money to him. Posturing for a new contract before you get there is just plain smart.

THe guy is likley asking for the starting job and a certain dollar figure. Memphis is trying to shed money so why would Lee want to go to that situation at all?

Memphis is at or near the bottom of the list for teams I'd want to play for.

Sh!t cities:

Memphis (dirty, dumb and dastardly place)

Milwaukee (Lavern and Shirley sold me that this place sucks, great SUMMER music festival)

Minniapolis (great town, just depressingly cold)

Miami (being young and rich would not suck there, and the water front houses are nice, but I hate florida)

New Orleans (Humid, swampy, weird, and ecnomically depressed even before Katrina. Katrina victims aside, this place sucked way before it recieves massive sympathy for its plight)

Oklahoma City (please, this is not an NBA city)

Atlanta: Traffic alone makes it a nightmare. City has no soul outside its local music scene.

Orlando: Take away mickey, its hot and its florida. No state tax might make up for the bugs.

Charlotte: No local music scene like Atlanta, so its just no soul and lots of traffic. A smaller version of Atlanta. More water though.

Philly: New York, and Boston do the same thing but much better.

Washington: Take out the Government thing, with those nice white buildings and interesting people its an Urban sprawl disaster right up there with ATL and Charlotte.

Sacremento: Think Albany but with lots of Tomatoes. Proximity to Lake Tahoe is a plus.

Texas

Cleveland: too many Cleveland jokes. Its cold, the lakes suck in the winter, and nobody wins championships in Cleveland.

Las Vegas: Why not Dubai for that matter?

Funny the first 4 start with the letter M.

Not on the list:

Salt Lake City: Not my first choice, just thought I need to explain.
ONe funky place. Ok, the actual city itself is clean, Pale and just really weird. But the surrounding mountains are just incredible. Lots to do if you like being outside. Can say similar about Denver.

Chicago: Its cold, but a great city. A smaller cleaner NYC! It works for me!

Portland: closest thing to socialism, and since I like europe thats cool. Pretty place!

Boston: I know its the celts, but the city, new england, the cape, and lobster rolls do it for me.

Golden State: Frisco is nice place if you making big money. Same for LA. Chill in Malibu and hang with Jax. I would even start smoking weed.

Phoenix. Only in the winter, only in the winter.

Seattle: Wet, green, and they need our help. Nice city!!

Vancuver: This is a great town, in fact Canada is really cool! Compared to Memphis, this place is heaven. If Steve Francis rejects it, then thats good enough for me!

Toronto is also a great international city! ITs cold, but if your rich, you'll stay warm. Its on a great lake, but its canada. If you gonna be cold and on a lake its much better than cleveland.

I don't blame DLee.


islesfan
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6/26/2008  9:52 AM
Lee is officially on my **** list.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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6/26/2008  9:59 AM
Posted by playa2:

Lee doesn't fit D,Antoni system of being able to run and gun and knock down jumpers on the perimtter. Isiah isn't coaching anymore

I just don't buy into this 'Lee doesn't fit D'Antoni's style of play'.

D'Antoni said he wants players to make quick decisions with the ball, and of all the knicks, I think Lee is the only player who can play with that kind of Savvy.

If you go by run, gun & knock down jumpers on the perimeter, then Zach is about nearly perfect - he boards and has great range.

But when was the last quick decision that Zach made that on the court that wasn't 'Shoot, I'm open', or 'I'll dribble, drop step, then shoot'.
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6/26/2008  10:01 AM
On Wednesday, for example, owner Michael Heisley was genuinely stunned to hear about a report that the Grizzlies have talked to the Knicks about sending their No. 5 pick and Brian Cardinal to the New York Knicks for David Lee.

"I've never heard of that trade," said Heisley, who appeared to be telling the truth.

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6/26/2008  10:03 AM
Posted by Andrew:
On Wednesday, for example, owner Michael Heisley was genuinely stunned to hear about a report that the Grizzlies have talked to the Knicks about sending their No. 5 pick and Brian Cardinal to the New York Knicks for David Lee.

"I've never heard of that trade," said Heisley, who appeared to be telling the truth.

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Heisley seems to be the most inept owner in sports when it comes to knowing what is going on with his team.
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Allanfan20
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6/26/2008  10:06 AM
Everybody, the NBA is a business. It's a business on the teams side, and believe it or not, it's a business on the players side. There's nothing wrong with him saying "I'm not going to resign with you if you trade for me." It's smart business. It's putting your foot down and not letting people f' around with you. For that matter, I bet Donnie has a lot more respect for David Lee now. If anything, this is Memphis's fault for not trying to contact David Lee and trying to convince him to play with them, and it's their fault for having a poorly run organization. Who would want to play for a team that traded away Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown. Not me. Why should David Lee? He has every right to put his foot down. It's America.

Besides, do you REALLY want to trade David Lee, just to trade up to get te 5th pick. I don't I probably wouldn't.
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6/26/2008  10:09 AM
The problem is Allan, at this point, after Lee knows we've basically had a deal for him to send him out of town, is he really going to want to resign with us at all?
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6/26/2008  10:11 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by playa2:

Lee doesn't fit D,Antoni system of being able to run and gun and knock down jumpers on the perimtter. Isiah isn't coaching anymore

I just don't buy into this 'Lee doesn't fit D'Antoni's style of play'.

D'Antoni said he wants players to make quick decisions with the ball, and of all the knicks, I think Lee is the only player who can play with that kind of Savvy.

If you go by run, gun & knock down jumpers on the perimeter, then Zach is about nearly perfect - he boards and has great range.

But when was the last quick decision that Zach made that on the court that wasn't 'Shoot, I'm open', or 'I'll dribble, drop step, then shoot'.

I watched Lee many games get the ball passed to him on nthe perimitter and his defender would just layoff him and help defend the post or jump the passing lanes.

Lee would look to get rid of the ball without any creactivity on the perimitter and that's is just the opposite in D,Antoni's system.

Wilson Chandler is the perfect fit for Dantoni's system 6'8 good help defender(blk shots) can also pull up on the break and knock down a jumer or finish strong at the rack.


As Isles said earlier Lee fooled many, so when he found out being an american white guy in NY , HE COULD BE THE KING when they started to win he said all the right things.

If the shoe doesn't fit Lee must abandon ship
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6/26/2008  10:12 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Everybody, the NBA is a business. It's a business on the teams side, and believe it or not, it's a business on the players side. There's nothing wrong with him saying "I'm not going to resign with you if you trade for me." It's smart business. It's putting your foot down and not letting people f' around with you. For that matter, I bet Donnie has a lot more respect for David Lee now. If anything, this is Memphis's fault for not trying to contact David Lee and trying to convince him to play with them, and it's their fault for having a poorly run organization. Who would want to play for a team that traded away Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown. Not me. Why should David Lee? He has every right to put his foot down. It's America.

Besides, do you REALLY want to trade David Lee, just to trade up to get te 5th pick. I don't I probably wouldn't.

I just believe Memphis shouldn't be put off by his saying he doesn't want to come. Take his butt anyway and change his mind.

I also do believe that having the 5th and 6th pick is a big deal. Lee is good, but this is about restructuring this team to be better equipped to play for D'Antoni. We can replace him with a player that fits better and also get a PG.
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6/26/2008  10:13 AM
Why not? Everybody in the league, not named LeBron, has probably been shopped around. It's a business for both sides like I said. You can't get offended. You're allowed to say what Lee said (If it's true!) but why would you take offense to being shopped? It's silly.
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6/26/2008  10:15 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Why not? Everybody in the league, not named LeBron, has probably been shopped around. It's a business for both sides like I said. You can't get offended. You're allowed to say what Lee said (If it's true!) but why would you take offense to being shopped? It's silly.

allan we say its silly, but crap like this happens all the time. ALL the time.
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6/26/2008  10:26 AM
Its not like the #5 was going to get us Mayo....

Now if he nixed a trade that would net us #2 or #3 then I would care...
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6/26/2008  10:47 AM
I told you guys when it came down to business what Lee and his agent would do. Just know this the guy will command a near max salary when he becomes a RFA and surely will get paid if he reaches UFA status.

I ain't mad at Lee....DON'T HATE THE PLAYA HATE THE GAME.

I guess this rumor appeared to be true as far as discussion goes, but I still wonder if the number 5 pick is really being offered for him and not some other combination of trade asset(s)?

If Lee remains a Knick this season it's going to become a DEEP DOO-DOO situation.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-26-2008 09:48 AM]
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6/26/2008  10:50 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

I told you guys when it came down to business what Lee and his agent would do. Just know this the guy will command a near max salary when he becomes a RFA and surely will get paid if he reaches UFA status.

I ain't mad at Lee....DON'T HATE THE PLAYA HATE THE GAME.

I guess this rumor appeared to be true as far as discussion goes, but I still wonder if the number 5 pick is really being offered for him and not some other combination of trade asset(s)?

If Lee remains a Knick this season it's going to become a DEEP DOO-DOO situation.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-26-2008 09:48 AM]

That's all I am saying. I can agree with you on this 100%.
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6/26/2008  10:51 AM
Posted by Andrew:
On Wednesday, for example, owner Michael Heisley was genuinely stunned to hear about a report that the Grizzlies have talked to the Knicks about sending their No. 5 pick and Brian Cardinal to the New York Knicks for David Lee.

"I've never heard of that trade," said Heisley, who appeared to be telling the truth.

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I didn't see this post but he was somewhat in the dark with on the Gasol trade so you never know. I've been skeptical since jump street. I don't think the number 5 was being offered and I'm sticking to it. Maybe something like......

Kyle Lowry, Cardinal, 28th

4

Malik and Lee

That's what I believe was being discussed and from our camp we put out it was for the 5th pick.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-26-2008 09:53 AM]
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6/26/2008  10:57 AM
When the Knicks take Gallinari in the draft tonight, that will add another white guy to the team, and the Knicks will be over the limit, so Lee has to go.

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6/26/2008  11:05 AM
We all look out for ourselves. Why should David Lee be any different?
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6/26/2008  11:07 AM
The stupidity from some of you guys is a joke. The kid doesn't want to play in Memphis, so you lose respect for him, they are a terrible team in a boring city.

He is the most efficient player on this team, and had to deal with not starting for two seasons, because the coach was a ****ing joke, but he kept quite he played hard and went about his business.

Unlike players like Crawford, Nate, Balkman, he actually connects with the fans, spends time with them at team events, actually attending them. Would the deal be good long term yes, but business or not people have a comfort zone. If someone sent you to Memphis while you were comfortable living in new york because your company wants you to go.

Give me a break.


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6/26/2008  11:08 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:

When the Knicks take Gallinari in the draft tonight, that will add another white guy to the team, and the Knicks will be over the limit, so Lee has to go.

LOL00but you have to take into consideration a white coach who speaks italian--so the quota has to rise a tad.

This whole story is coming from chad ford i believe who has been proven to be a snake oil salesman in this gig. On top of it David Lee is free to do what he chooses to do--who are we trading him for anyway--someone from slovenia?
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