And necrom - absolutely right about the Rodman comparison. On and off the court activities are two totally different issues...

...Well, In the minds of Dolan/Layden, who knows?

If you look at this trade objectively (see the nytimes article), it seems like this was a rational business decision. I think it was, anyway.

If you look at this trade fanatically (Lupica) or from a Knick-hater (look for a mitch lawrence article), yeah, you'll feel like the media hates KVH. I'll try to listen to the FAN tonight a little... maybe they'll make me think otherwise.

I think it's a decent deal--- and that we couldn't do much better.

Now imagine if the Knicks had gone STRAIGHT to MN and made some trade that would have gotten us Brandon for Sprewell. Wouldn't we be pissed that we got that precious CAP relief right away and no players! (and yeah, we'd still be waaay over the cap)

Nothing makes Knick fans happy (other than a projected lottery pick dropping to us in the 2nd round).


Slightly off-topic (this of course isn't a Nets thread):
I'm curious what people will have to say about K-Mart... after his incredibly poor performances in the playoffs (like going 3-23 in the last game). Hypocrite. This, of course, is a guy who also is looking for a max deal. K-mart had "flu-like" symptoms during the last 2 or 3 games, and he wasn't using it as an excuse.

Some of these guys need to accept that if they get sick, it'll hinder their performance. Heart doesn't matter if you can put someone better capable of performing on the floor.

Also, what do people have to say about KVH's replacements RJ, who was incredibly erratic during this year's entire playoff run, and Rodney Rogers, who aside from bricking 2 critical freethrows then proceeding to hit a winning jumper... was absolutely useless. And of course, there's Mutombo, who contributed very little over the course of the whole season because he's a slow big man who can't catch passes.

Posted by knixphan:

Hello, Prod.

I enjoy discussing the Knicks, but if you address me personally, please do it respectfully. I'm not a child, nor will I tolerate being addressed like one. It's okay to disagree. Please take a note from Hardcore as to how to do it with mutual respect.

Yes prodson....please be mature, and please don't create any more user ids to post under.

oh i said that my bad then knixphan

i didn't mean it like that. i meant to type necrom stop posting

and anyone jump to conclusions no like that. stop posting meaning

stop posting rest your case

it's an old nydaily news forum quote that we use to use when we felt someone proved their point so posts wouldn't be long and drawn out.
i must have been thinking of your id because i replied it to you by mistake

nah man i don't get down like that i debate opinions. some seem to think that i go overboard but yeah i got passion for this team

all those years i have put into this team and i have to stand by and take it like this. yeah it hurts

andrew i don't know what you are talking about. i'm the prodigal son why would i want to be anything other than that?

yeah camby wasn't taken too well either i admit

but man sprewell was my dawg


nothing against kvh. it's just layden. i was hoping that sprewell was going to be here for 2 more years

but then again like a 12 year old said somewhere i read. the knicks didn't want him anyway

knixphan what's crazy tho is that scott layden actually thinks he is doing something. it's so funny

But I really think Scott is Dolan's lapdog anyway. And Houston's contract (not Allan's fault for signing...well, maybe a little)has made this mess even messier.

Unless a Houston trade can happen...(Yes, I'd support Hardcore's Houston/Doleac for Wallace trade) I think we gotta just see what the kid can do before february...

And if Keith stinks it up, then get the picket signs out. I'll join you.

Posted by knixphan:

But I really think Scott is Dolan's lapdog anyway. And Houston's contract (not Allan's fault for signing...well, maybe a little)has made this mess even messier.

Unless a Houston trade can happen...(Yes, I'd support Hardcore's Houston/Doleac for Wallace trade) I think we gotta just see what the kid can do before february...

And if Keith stinks it up, then get the picket signs out. I'll join you.

I've never blamed Housless for signing that contract. If my boss wants to give me a lot more money than I'm actually worth, there is no way in hell I'm gonna say "Nah, man. I only deserve THIS much!"

knix phan some of the post ini here go over the top with name calling and in your face post, i am responsible for a lot of that. alot of us know each other for years, and it's not personal some of it .
what i'm trying to say is don't get so sensitive i dont think syaing Stop posting was overboard, or something to get worried about, there is alot of passion on these topics, and for us to post like we are eating biscuits and drinking tea and eating crackers aint likely. I don't think we should take it too far but we aint the mormons the knicks are.

as the season goes on and we get closer to a lottery pick you will see a kinder nicer ICE, typical knicks they will win the lottery the year after lebron...lol

between layden, dolan and bloom berg i feel like NYC is a suburb of Idaho.

Lupica is joke and anyone who watched him knows this.
Tune in to the "Sports Reporters" on ESPN to see what I'm talking about.
All that guy is about, is living vicariously though the lives of Athletes. If an athlete lets him do that then he loves the, if not he hates. Form your own opinions don't use Lupica or any other sports writer as a crutch.

[Edited by - nwny on 07/24/2003 20:13:32]