Posted by Panos:

Posted by martin:

Posted by VDesai:

Daivd Lee for the chance to take Westbrook? I'm really not excited.

Let's say the Knicks take Westbrook and Alexander. Westbrook is an elite athlete who can lock down defenders, which takes a bit of pressure off of Curry/Zbo in the near future and it adds a piece to the puzzle IF he can get a consistent shot. Alexander is a similar player to Lee with a much better midrange game and higher potential, AND he is a cheaper player over the course of the next 3-4 years.

There is also that chance that one of those 2 picks can be traded for someone like Mayo.

In what way other than being white, is Alexander similar to Lee?

Jumper, energy, workout freak, strength, gym rat.

Posted by TrueBlue:

If our goal is to get two picks and they are in the Top 10, I want Augustin and Gordon.

There's no way I'm believing this rumor though.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-24-2008 11:56 AM]

I'd hand in my Knick card if that happened.

In last years draft how many players averaged a double-double and shot 53% from the field. If they trade the pick for Lee and take Cardinal the Grizzlies are paying Lee with the money they are saving for Cardinal. If you redrafted 3 years ago Lee would be the 8th pick and last year he would have been top 6 and I think this draft isnt very good. You give Lee 35 minutes he will average 14-11 with no problems do you think Love will be able to that?

If this is true in anyway--they have to take one big player if not two

If we are interested in removing Randolph and Lee--we need someone who can rebound the ball and score in the box

If you move Lee you cant move Randolph without giving up a pic. Great deal for Memphis they sign Lee 5 years 40. Which in trading Cardinal they are sgining him 3 years 24 million and already have someone that improving, and knows he can compete at this level. I think it would make more sense to trade up to 3 and grab Mayo than take an extra pick.

Posted by joec32033:

Draft trade rumors abound

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 | Print Entry

Here are some quick hitters two days before the NBA draft from a number of NBA sources:

• A potential deal with Memphis and New York apparently has some legs. The Knicks, who have the No. 6 pick, would get the Grizzlies' No. 5 pick and give David Lee and other considerations to Memphis. New York would then select UCLA's Russell Westbrook and Italy's Danilo Gallinari with its No. 5 and No. 6 picks. If Memphis selects UCLA's Kevin Love, that is a strong indicator that the Grizzlies are keeping the pick.

I really need to get insider back

I'd go postal if they traded Lee for Gallinari, which is essentially what they would be doing. As per Martin's post, Westbrook and Alexander makes much more sense and would be a trade that I would endorse. Alexander has much more upside offensively, can be trusted to improve on offense and will be more cost effective going into 2010.

If Memphis selects UCLA's Kevin Love, that is a strong indicator that the Grizzlies are keeping the pick.[/i]

Yeah, using the pick is usually a pretty strong indicator that they're going to keep the pick.

"I really need to get insider back"

This is for you Joe and others who don't get Insider.

Here are some quick hitters two days before the NBA draft from a number of NBA sources:

• A potential deal with Memphis and New York apparently has some legs. The Knicks, who have the No. 6 pick, would get the Grizzlies' No. 5 pick and give David Lee and other considerations to Memphis. New York would then select UCLA's Russell Westbrook and Italy's Danilo Gallinari with its No. 5 and No. 6 picks. If Memphis selects UCLA's Kevin Love, that is a strong indicator that the Grizzlies are keeping the pick.

• Detroit and Boston are sitting with "catcher's mitts" at Nos. 29 and 30, respectively, to see who falls to them. But the Celtics are willing to move No. 30 since they're not desperate to add another roster body, especially with 2007 second-round pick Gabe Pruitt on the books for next season.

• Love's likely destinations are one of four places: Minnesota (3), Memphis (5), Charlotte (9) and New Jersey (10).

• If Gallinari isn't taken by New York or New Jersey, then there is a real chance he slides out of the lottery.

• Portland and Washington talked about moving their picks, but the deal is dead between them.

• Washington's No. 18 is available to be had.

• The swap with Miami (2) and Seattle (4) doesn't make sense for a lot of other executives in the league. It makes sense for Seattle to get Michael Beasley and give up Chris Wilcox, but it doesn't make sense for the Heat. The problem for the Heat is that if they move drop a spot or two to get O.J. Mayo, he could easily be gone at No. 3 to Minnesota. The consensus from a number of teams is that Miami will stay where it is in the draft despite exploring a number of options. Making trades next week is another matter.

• Nevada coach Mark Fox said he's getting a ton of calls from teams late in the first round for JaVale McGee, who was once projected to be picked in the late lottery.

• Mayo said Monday night that his interview with the Timberwolves went very well in Chicago on Saturday. He said that the T-Wolves wanted the conversation to keep going. He has also interviewed with Memphis and Seattle.

"Right now, I'm happy to play for any team," Mayo said.

• If the Knicks and Grizzlies work out a trade in the Nos. 5 and 6 spots, then the top nine could go like this:

1. Chicago -- Derrick Rose
2. Miami -- Michael Beasley
3. Minnesota -- O.J. Mayo
4. Seattle -- Brook Lopez
5. Russell Westbrook -- Memphis (for NYK)
6. New York -- Danilo Gallinari
7. LA Clippers -- Eric Gordon (or Jerryd Bayless or D.J. Augustin)
8. Milwaukee -- Joe Alexander
9. Charlotte -- Kevin Love

• The safest pick in the lottery might just be Alexander to the Bucks.

• The hot names on the trade block, but might not be moved by Thursday night, continue to be Toronto's T.J. Ford and Indiana's Jermaine O'Neal. Milwaukee denies Michael Redd is being moved.

• Arizona signee Brandon Jennings didn't go to Tucson on Monday as originally expected for the start of summer school classes.

Too much media interest, and his SAT score coming on Thursday -- which he has yet to receive a qualifying score -- prompted Arizona to wait until the weekend for Jennings to be on campus. If Jennings isn't eligible, he said he may pursue a contract with a European team.

So you're saying Love or Alexander can be top 5 in the league in rebounding and offensive rebounding and top 10 in FG% like Lee will be when he gets 35 minutes a game? If you think that you make the trade.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by joec32033:

Draft trade rumors abound

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 | Print Entry

Here are some quick hitters two days before the NBA draft from a number of NBA sources:

• A potential deal with Memphis and New York apparently has some legs. The Knicks, who have the No. 6 pick, would get the Grizzlies' No. 5 pick and give David Lee and other considerations to Memphis. New York would then select UCLA's Russell Westbrook and Italy's Danilo Gallinari with its No. 5 and No. 6 picks. If Memphis selects UCLA's Kevin Love, that is a strong indicator that the Grizzlies are keeping the pick.

I really need to get insider back

I'd go postal if they traded Lee for Gallinari, which is essentially what they would be doing. As per Martin's post, Westbrook and Alexander makes much more sense and would be a trade that I would endorse. Alexander has much more upside offensively, can be trusted to improve on offense and will be more cost effective going into 2010.

If Memphis selects UCLA's Kevin Love, that is a strong indicator that the Grizzlies are keeping the pick.[/i]

Yeah, using the pick is usually a pretty strong indicator that they're going to keep the pick.

Seriously, what makes Alexander a better prospect than Gallinari? None of us have seen much of him outside of youtube, but from what I've seen, Gallinari has way more range than Alexander, is longer, seems to be a better passer (per numerous scouting reports), takes the ball to the rim, can play a little point forward and has a great understanding of the game (dont we always complain about how our guy lack bb knowledge?). Plus, he has played against better competition. No, he's not nearly as athletic as Alexander, but from what I've seen and read, most scouts think Gallinari is a better prospect than Andrea Bargs (sp) who was the number 1 pick of the Rapts.


[Edited by - uptown on 06-24-2008 1:36 PM]

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by TrueBlue:

If our goal is to get two picks and they are in the Top 10, I want Augustin and Gordon.

There's no way I'm believing this rumor though.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-24-2008 11:56 AM]

Two lottery picks and you want a 6-3 and 5-10 guard? What type of plan is that if I may ask? A backcourt of Nate Eg and augustin? if they stand on each others shoulders i guess they could check yao.

Nate and Jamal would be trade bait as they should be. I'd offer Jamal to the Griz for Mike Miller so D.J. has 2 perimeter threats to kick the ball out to. I'd offer Balkman, Nate, Q, Zach in a 3 way with Philly and Denver for Camby, Evans, and 16. Use the MLE to fill in the holes if necessary if we can sign them(Pietrus, Childress, J.R. Smith, Ricky Davis, Kelenna Bookie, Nachbar, Duhon, Najera etc etc).

PG=D.J./Marbury(bench him)
G=Gordon/16pick(draft a defensive 2/3 Rush/Greene/Chalmers
SF=Miller/Chandler
PF=Evans/Jeffries
C=Camby/Curry(bench him)

Very realistic trades I'm proposing and I practically accomplish everything necessary. I get us a pure point guard, a dynamic 2 who can score from anywhere on the court, a pure shooter at the 3 spot who's a vet, a rugged power forward who plays the position like he should, defends grabs rebounds, and plays team ball and ditto with the center no need to even discuss what he'd bring to the table. I put Marbury and Curry on the bench where they should be so we don't have to witness them starting games putting us in a hole because of their disinterest. Tell them come off the bench and give them the green light/touches for monitored minutes because that's how they're going/want to play anyway. Oh and I eliminate our cap freeing up the possibility to go after whatever Big Name is out there come 2010/2011.

Anymore questions I can aptly address and provide pristine solutions for you?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-24-2008 12:49 PM]

Posted by martin:

Posted by King1:

So you're saying Love or Alexander can be top 5 in the league in rebounding and offensive rebounding and top 10 in FG% like Lee will be when he gets 35 minutes a game? If you think that you make the trade.

Are you saying that once Lee gets a bit more confidence in his outside shot his rebounding and FG% numbers will stay the same?

I think Donnie is also looking at the $$ in a year or 2 when 2010 hits.

Love and Alexander *may* have bigger upside potential.

If they made this move I would think they would have to take Love with one of the picks. How can Gallinari and Westbrook make up for Lee? Alexander played PF at West Virginia--he had a couple of really nice rebouding games but averaged 6 for the year. Love averaged roughly double.