Posted by Elite:

do not get it twisted. D'antonis job is to come in here and raise the value of our players, make them look good while we try to get better ones. I dont think he will stillbe here for the championship run

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Elite:

do not get it twisted. D'antonis job is to come in here and raise the value of our players, make them look good while we try to get better ones. I dont think he will stillbe here for the championship run

I agree with this assessment.

As do I.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by martin:

Posted by Elite:

do not get it twisted. D'antonis job is to come in here and raise the value of our players, make them look good while we try to get better ones. I dont think he will stillbe here for the championship run

I agree with this assessment.

As do I.

I don't agree with this assement at all. The Knicks can always get a assitant coach that preaches defense to go with D'antoni's offense. Which would put the Knicks in better situation. As for Thibodeau he benefitted from Doc Rivers being able to coach the offensive side and motivate. We all seen Thibodeau with JVG who had one of the stalest offenses in the league it didn't win the Knicks and Rockets diddly.

As of now no one can win a championship coaching the Knicks until proven otherwise. Not Pat Riley not Phil Jackson, Not Larry Brown, Not Mark Jckson, Not Thibodeau, and not D'Antoni. Only one who can make that claim is Red.

Your post had nothing to do with what we said.

Walsh hopes going forward that D'Antoni and his offensive scheme will help raise the value of certain knicks and that is what is going to be focus as of now. We need to get rid of these guys so we can get some guys in here who will win us a championship.

Of course when a coach is hired everyone hopes that the players perform better and their value increases. Thats a given. You guys are debating about what is already factual.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by Vmart:



Of course when a coach is hired everyone hopes that the players perform better and their value increases. Thats a given. You guys are debating about what is already factual.

How is it factual? Few coaches, if any, have the offensive schem that D"Antoni has. His scheme makes players look great, that's the only thing that's factual.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 06-18-2008 4:37 PM]

Isn't that what everyone wants here they want the player to perform better so they look good to other teams and dump their sorry azz for young players with upside or draft picks. Thats ideal, you don't want to be stuck with the players who perform badly and have no return value.

Posted by bitty41:

Posted by McK1:

how do we know Walsh didn't inquire about Thib's availability behind the scenes and Danny said flat out no about letting him go to a division rival.

prior to hiring D'Antoni, a few weeks went by where Knicks brass was illusive about coaching candidates.

Look there is no guarantee with Thib being an assistant coach is not the same as being a head coach believe me two very different animals.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by McK1:

i'm not in the bash Walsh for the hire corner.

twas a question to those that are cuz the prevailing assumption is that Walsh didn't give the process thorough enuf time and considration, since Thib was never mentioned as a candidate and I'm wondering where exactly the proof of that is. I mean he was/is UNDER CONTRACT and correct me if I'm wrong that means he couldn't be OPENLY discussed by another team's execs or does that just apply to players and Walsh would need permission from Ainge.

In all fairness to Walsh, we have no clue what went on behind closed doors. In the midst of a title run a story like this likely would've been a bit of distraction to the C's (see LB in 05) so I'm quite sure being the professional Walsh is, if any inquiries were made about Thib they likely would've been kept private between he and Ainge.

[Edited by - McK1 on 18-06-2008 8:13 PM]

i thought i read that Doc Rivers had granted permission for Thibs to interview with the Bulls and Knicks while the playoffs were still going on... I wouldn't be surprised if Walsh and Thibs actually had a loose discussion or Thibs turned down an interview given that...



[Edited by - crzymdups on 18-06-2008 8:35 PM]

Posted by CrushAlot:

I disagree about the comparison between Brown and D'Antoni. Brown coached both offense and defense. His teams were always good defensively. He does rely on his point guard alot like D'Antoni but that would be where I end the comparison.