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Bippity10
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6/12/2008  5:39 PM
Unfortunately I never saw Randolph play in college, and this video is just a bunch of guys going 1/3 speed so I couldn't get much out of it. Handle looks nice but so do a lot of guys that never make it in the league. I do however trust Briggs because of his solid prior predictions.

I personally want a guy that can help change the culture here. I want a warrior. Alexander and Bayless come to mind for me. Westbrook also. I want a guy that will battle you from beginning to end, even if they aren't the most talented. If Randolph has this type of attitude and has the upside that some say, then he is a no brainer. I'm just praying we don't end up with another Frye type.
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6/12/2008  5:42 PM
Bippity - that's exactly my opinion as well
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6/12/2008  5:43 PM
Posted by purple012870:

Bippity - that's exactly my opinion as well

I just went back and read your post. Great minds think alike.
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6/12/2008  6:20 PM
The player the Knicks should trade up for is Mayo. If he is there at 3 I think you have to work a deal out with Minny and try and get Mayo. If that means trading Lee and 6th or any one of the players on the team I think you have to do it. I like a lot of players in the draft but I think Mayo brings swagger and possible star appeal to the Knicks.
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6/12/2008  7:28 PM
his handle is insane for his size. This guy could really be a star
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6/12/2008  8:59 PM
Warrior?

That seems like a good thread all on its own.
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6/12/2008  9:40 PM
Posted by Elite:

his handle is insane for his size. This guy could really be a star

If we name back 15 drafts can someone name me another 6-10 player other than Lamar odom with this kind of athletic ability who can also handle the rock like this? Dirk has a good handle but not like this Danny Manning was a good ballhandler and roughly 6-10 230. This kid has special skills--he has much more value to me as a player for this style than anyone projected under 5 if we assume Mayo is gone by 3. If we assume Beasley Rose Mayo Love Bayless gone Randolph has the most talent for this system he is the BPA.
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6/12/2008  10:58 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Elite:

his handle is insane for his size. This guy could really be a star

If we name back 15 drafts can someone name me another 6-10 player other than Lamar odom with this kind of athletic ability who can also handle the rock like this? Dirk has a good handle but not like this Danny Manning was a good ballhandler and roughly 6-10 230. This kid has special skills--he has much more value to me as a player for this style than anyone projected under 5 if we assume Mayo is gone by 3. If we assume Beasley Rose Mayo Love Bayless gone Randolph has the most talent for this system he is the BPA.

I agree with you. I have locked my player and it Randolph and Mayo. I don't care much for Westbrook as I think he is going to be a bust. Only other player that intriging to me id Gordon as I think he will be a very good player in the league, athletic player with good shooting touch. He is closer to 6'4'' then 6'2'' which makes him a little more versatile. But my first prefence is to try and trade up to get Mayo. If they can't then take Randolph and trade for a pg.

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6/13/2008  12:22 AM




Do you see the inside out dribble???? Only guards really do that move, this is a 6'10, 7foot long, rebounding, shot blocking beast and he has that level handle!!!!!!!!!! People complain about his jumpshot which looks good in the clips, not realizing if this guy did shoot 50-60 percent he is in talks to be the number 1 pick in the draft!!!!!!!!!!

WE have to take this guy, he is going to be a beast with Mike D!!!!
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6/13/2008  7:22 AM
I like what I have seen from this kid and can project him as someone who can play 3-4 at the start and maybe grow into a 4-5. Now mix that in with our new HC hiring Oak as a special assistant assigned to getting into Zach's head (and Curry's face) and the front line even without a trade with Lee and Chandler could become a force. The physical ability is there and maybe just maybe (with the con artist assigned to the shadows) it will show in results.
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6/13/2008  10:25 AM
Sorry, can't base my opinion of a player on how he dribbles the ball. Europe is filled with never wasses that are 6-7 to 6-10 that can handle the ball, and shoot the lights out but don't have the mindset to compete. My old neighborhood even has one. If Randolph doesn't have the mindset it doesn't matter how well he dribbles. Once again, I will wait and see and ignore all these "highlight" videos.
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6/13/2008  12:37 PM
I don't understand. You ask any coach when they talk about College players they say three things transfer that game to the NBA. If a guy can shoot, he can shoot any where in the world. If a guy can rebound, he can rebound with any body. If a guy is a shot blocker, he will be a shot blocker in the NBA.

I think comparing Randolph to a euro-player is very short sighted. I think he is showing a big time array of skills the knicks not only should want, but need!!!!
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6/13/2008  4:33 PM
Posted by Anji:

I don't understand. You ask any coach when they talk about College players they say three things transfer that game to the NBA. If a guy can shoot, he can shoot any where in the world. If a guy can rebound, he can rebound with any body. If a guy is a shot blocker, he will be a shot blocker in the NBA.

I think comparing Randolph to a euro-player is very short sighted. I think he is showing a big time array of skills the knicks not only should want, but need!!!!

It must be over reaction time. I did not compare Randolph to a European player. I've never seen him play so I'm not comparing him to anyone. So relax my friend. I'm making the point that there is no way you can assess a guys heart/skill level combination by watching this half asse workout. There are plenty of guys that look like superstars on film but never produce in the NBA. If we draft him, I will hope that this is not the case.
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6/13/2008  8:45 PM
Randolph is extremely talented. Probably has to be more of a small forward because of his frame and weight. Certainly will get bigger. Is very young, very talented. A long guy who can shoot the ball. The thing that surprised me about him was he didn’t back down. Lots of times when you get a guy that young, they’ll back down from contact.”
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“He has a knack for knowing where the rebounds are going and has the ability of going and getting it. He dominated that game just on the glass. I checked the stats at the end of the game and saw he ended up with 19 rebounds. I thought he is as good as any of the freshmen in the country, even though he doesn’t receive as much hype.” - Tyler Whitcomb, HoopsVibe.com

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6/13/2008  11:26 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/2008/06/13/2008-06-13_texas_dj_augustin_and_uclas_kevin_love_a.html

Texas' D.J. Augustin and UCLA's Kevin Love attend Knicks' pre-draft workout

BY MARK LELINWALLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Friday, June 13th 2008, 3:50 PM

The Knicks spent most of the week checking out high-scoring combo guards, but ended it by working out a pure point guard and high-profile power forward.

Texas’ D.J. Augustin and UCLA’s Kevin Love headlined a group of six players that took part in the Knicks’ pre-draft group workout in Greenburgh on Friday. The Knicks also held a solo session with 19-year-old Italian forward Danilo Gallinari to end the day.

Friday’s workouts marked a stark contrast to the Knicks’ draft approach earlier in the week, when they held three separate sessions for combo guards. The Knicks evaluated Arizona’s Jerryd Bayless and Indiana’s Eric Gordon on Tuesday, before taking a look at O.J. Mayo on Thursday.

Augustin is not a combo guard and has no ambition of becoming one, if chosen by the Knicks with the No. 6 pick in June 26th's NBA Draft.

“I’m just a point guard,” said Augustin, who averaged 19.2 points and 5.8 assists per game as a sophomore at Texas. “I know what I can do as a point - I could lead a team and get everybody in the right position to score and be effective on the court. That’s all I know. They may need a point guard and hopefully I showed them I can be that guy.”

Meanwhile, the 6-10 Love, who's heard the criticism about his fundamentally-sound game not translating to the NBA level, tried to show the Knicks that he’s athletic enough to run in Mike D’Antoni’s system.

“I definitely run the floor," Love said. "I showed that I am faster than people peg me as. I’ll probably have to step out and maybe play a little of a point forward kind of role if I’m going to play in D’Antoni’s offense. Defensively, I feel like I’m strong enough to guard the five, but I’ll mostly be guarding the four."

The other four players involved in the group workout included Syracuse’s Donte Greene, Ohio State’s Kosta Koufos, LSU’s Anthony Randolph and Davidson’s Jason Richards. The Knicks have no workouts scheduled from Saturday-Monday.

Gallinari, who worked out with the Nets on Thursday, once again repeated that he’s mainly interested and comfortable with playing for the metropolitan-area teams. When asked what he’d do if another team drafted him, the 19-year-old Italian forward said, “We’ll see.”


SO it was Love V Randolph today............
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6/13/2008  11:31 PM
I like him but he does remind me of the Stromile Swifts, Marcus Fizers of the world. I really want someone with alot of heart, I wish I saw more of that in Randolph.
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Another Randolph tape some workout vs Lopez twins

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